PILOT SPIN

Pilot Zone => Accident Review/Never Again (I hope..) => Topic started by: Rush on September 01, 2023, 02:40:46 PM

Title: Aerodynamic Stall/Spin: Piper PA-32R-300 Cherokee Lance, N7677C
Post by: Rush on September 01, 2023, 02:40:46 PM
http://www.kathrynsreport.com/2020/07/piper-pa-32r-300-cherokee-lance-fatal.html

Final report out:

https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/101669/pdf

This was a horrible accident. Pilot Dad died along with 9 month old baby, mom and toddler lived but were badly burned. I would have killed my husband.  Well, killed him again in the afterlife when I got there.
Title: Re: Aerodynamic Stall/Spin: Piper PA-32R-300 Cherokee Lance, N7677C
Post by: Steingar on September 05, 2023, 07:01:22 AM
Easterners who underestimated the effects of density altitude.  Taking off with a tailwind doesn't help any, though that could have been due to obstructions in that part of the country.  Insidious, but just another example of you don't know what you don't know. 

I've heard folks say a long cross country airplane trip is just a bunch of shorter ones strung together. I think that complete bullshit.  New locations can have new hazards that can bite you in the six.  Those folks found out the hard way.  I lost a good friend to the exact same thing some years ago.  Thankfully no one went with him.
Title: Re: Aerodynamic Stall/Spin: Piper PA-32R-300 Cherokee Lance, N7677C
Post by: Username on September 05, 2023, 07:43:21 AM
I was based at U42 for a couple of years with an Archer.  There aren't many options around that airport when something goes wrong.  With the mountains east and west, and winds, and density altitude, I always did extensive pre-flight planning.  Early morning and winter were the best times to fly.  Neat little airport, but very unforgiving for the unwary.
Title: Re: Aerodynamic Stall/Spin: Piper PA-32R-300 Cherokee Lance, N7677C
Post by: Anthony on September 05, 2023, 11:45:06 AM
I was based at KCFO (previously designated KFTG) with my Tiger for several years which is northwest of Denver. CO. It's at 5,515 ft so in the summer DA could approach 10K ft easily. That's why runways are typically longer out there.