Post by: nddons on July 14, 2016, 12:12:00 PM
You may want to post the days you'll be up there, what you are flying if you are flying in, and what you will be doing when there.
It would be nice if you posted your first name as well as your PS name.
Also, we can PM each other if you want to share cell phone numbers to get together.
Stan (nddons) will be there from Saturday, 7/23 through Sunday, 7/31. I'll be staying either in Warbirds camping, or Camp Scholler.
I work Flightline Ops, marshaling planes from the runways to the taxiways. Be sure to give your marshalers a kind wave when you pass by. We probably have been standing there for 3-6 hours and that friendly stuff makes a difference. Of course if you're flying a Cirrus, we know you're too cool to wave.
Post by: Mase on July 14, 2016, 12:13:04 PM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on July 14, 2016, 07:14:55 PM
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on July 14, 2016, 08:12:20 PM
Post by: nddons on July 14, 2016, 08:46:11 PM
Thinking about it. Depends on forecast.The forecast is for hot and fun. I'll save you a beer.
Post by: nddons on July 14, 2016, 08:51:48 PM
The forecast is for hot and fun. I'll save you a beer.Speaking of beer, the OSH grounds crew is getting ready for the event.
Post by: nddons on July 14, 2016, 08:54:30 PM
The forecast is for hot and fun. I'll save you a beer.
Post by: Steingar on July 15, 2016, 05:12:43 AM
Post by: nddons on July 15, 2016, 07:48:30 AM
Gotta take the Lucky strike up tomorrow for some slow flight and spot landings.Good idea. Practice some go-arounds as well.
In the last couple of years I have seen at least 4 planes nearly stall on the base to final turn to 27. You could tell because of how slow they were going, and the subsequent gunning of the engine. And last year a Piper Malibu bought the farm on that turn. Check out the NTSB report before you fly in. It's instructional. The crash happened on 7/22/15. The bank angle was 60 degrees when it hit wing low. He elected to not do a go-around.
Remember, if you're cleared to land on the orange dot (1,000 ft past the displaced threshold) and don't think you can make it, GO AROUND. (FYI the green dot is 2,509 past the displaced threshold.)
ATC does a good job of calling your crosswind turn to get back into the pattern.
Post by: Steingar on July 15, 2016, 08:47:05 AM
Post by: Little Joe on July 15, 2016, 10:12:51 AM
Good idea. Practice some go-arounds as well.We are making a trip from Florida to Canada around that time. We think we may be in the area on Sunday/Monday and might want to stop in for the day. I know we won't get to see much in that time, and I'm not even sure if flying in and out the same day is feasible or possible.
In the last couple of years I have seen at least 4 planes nearly stall on the base to final turn to 27. You could tell because of how slow they were going, and the subsequent gunning of the engine. And last year a Piper Malibu bought the farm on that turn. Check out the NTSB report before you fly in. It's instructional. The crash happened on 7/22/15. The bank angle was 60 degrees when it hit wing low. He elected to not do a go-around.
Remember, if you're cleared to land on the orange dot (1,000 ft past the displaced threshold) and don't think you can make it, GO AROUND. (FYI the green dot is 2,509 past the displaced threshold.)
ATC does a good job of calling your crosswind turn to get back into the pattern.
Is there a best time of day, or best day to do this? I"m hoping it will be to fly in on Monday AM.
But the Bonanza really doesn't like to fly slow, so that worries me a little.
Post by: nddons on July 15, 2016, 06:26:45 PM
We are making a trip from Florida to Canada around that time. We think we may be in the area on Sunday/Monday and might want to stop in for the day. I know we won't get to see much in that time, and I'm not even sure if flying in and out the same day is feasible or possible.The Bo should not be a problem. I think the NOTAM has you flying the Fisk arrival at 90 kts. Lots of Bonanzas come in, and there's also a mass arrival of Bos on Saturday I believe.
Is there a best time of day, or best day to do this? I"m hoping it will be to fly in on Monday AM.
But the Bonanza really doesn't like to fly slow, so that worries me a little.
There's a steady stream of planes coming in on Monday, but it shouldn't be unreasonable at any time.
Post by: nddons on July 16, 2016, 06:23:19 PM
Post by: Steingar on July 16, 2016, 07:26:10 PM
Post by: LevelWing on July 17, 2016, 02:52:02 AM
Post by: Lucifer on July 17, 2016, 06:27:11 AM
My airplane has a flat tire. If it isn't fixed this week I can't go.
A one hour job. Tires and tubes that hard to come by in Ohio?
Post by: Little Joe on July 17, 2016, 07:42:35 AM
A one hour job. Tires and tubes that hard to come by in Ohio?He must use a "single payer, government sponsored" repair facility.
Post by: nddons on July 17, 2016, 08:02:54 AM
He must use a "single payer, government sponsored" repair facility.
Post by: Dav8or on July 17, 2016, 09:59:20 AM
A one hour job. Tires and tubes that hard to come by in Ohio?
Sporty's is in Ohio. Overnight the tube/tire if he doesn't live in Cincinnati, then spend the hour putting it on. Don't even need the A&P. He will need some tools, a jack, a cotter pin and a bit of safety wire.
Post by: Dav8or on July 17, 2016, 10:02:11 AM
He must use a "single payer, government sponsored" repair facility.
If you like your A&P, you can keep your A&P... ;)
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on July 17, 2016, 01:05:51 PM
If you like your A&P, you can keep your A&P... ;)Well played sir!
Post by: Mase on July 17, 2016, 03:47:37 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBtHUOGJzkE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBtHUOGJzkE)
Post by: Steingar on July 18, 2016, 09:41:25 AM
A one hour job. Tires and tubes that hard to come by in Ohio?
Got tire, tube, event the little thingies that go on top the jack for Mooneys. What I don't have include an airplane jack, English measure tools (mine are all metric),and even said cotter pin. I do have safety wire and pliers for it, believe it or not. Did change out the oil, filter, and battery, so I'm not entirely helpless. But I've never changed a tire on anything (I pull wheels, but pay to have tires changed) and the last time I used an inner tube on a tire it was on a Schwinn. Moreover, I've never jacked up an airplane myself either.
All this said, I've got a mechanic coming over from the neighboring airport early this week, so it sounds like my Oshkosh trip is saved. I'll be paying careful attention, and I thin I'll have my eyes out of a jack. I do not intend to be in this position again.
Then again, the lack of mechanical services is forcing me to abandon the airport at which I've been based since the beginning of this century. I am moving the airplane, just don't quite know where yet. I've been grounded of three weeks with a simple flat because a mechanic couldn't be bothered to come fix it. I can only imagine how bad it would be with substantive engine troubles.
Post by: Lucifer on July 18, 2016, 09:58:10 AM
Got tire, tube, event the little thingies that go on top the jack for Mooneys. What I don't have include an airplane jack, English measure tools (mine are all metric),and even said cotter pin. I do have safety wire and pliers for it, believe it or not. Did change out the oil, filter, and battery, so I'm not entirely helpless. But I've never changed a tire on anything (I pull wheels, but pay to have tires changed) and the last time I used an inner tube on a tire it was on a Schwinn. Moreover, I've never jacked up an airplane myself either.
All this said, I've got a mechanic coming over from the neighboring airport early this week, so it sounds like my Oshkosh trip is saved. I'll be paying careful attention, and I thin I'll have my eyes out of a jack. I do not intend to be in this position again.
Then again, the lack of mechanical services is forcing me to abandon the airport at which I've been based since the beginning of this century. I am moving the airplane, just don't quite know where yet. I've been grounded of three weeks with a simple flat because a mechanic couldn't be bothered to come fix it. I can only imagine how bad it would be with substantive engine troubles.
Watch the mechanic do this job, then find a used jack. It's fairly simple operation to perform.
Post by: Mase on July 18, 2016, 11:25:08 AM
I wouldn't move just because of no mech on field.
Post by: nddons on July 18, 2016, 11:31:27 AM
--Stan (nddons)
Tentative:
--YouOnlyLiveTwice
--Steingar
--Little Joe
This is sad, people!!! Get thee to Wisconsin!
Post by: Little Joe on July 18, 2016, 11:31:53 AM
If you like your airport, keep your airport.But what if he doesn't really like his airport all that much and the lack of a mechanic is just the last straw?
I wouldn't move just because of no mech on field.
Post by: Little Joe on July 18, 2016, 11:35:19 AM
Ok, so let me get this straight. The following is the known attendance list from this little group:I kind of feel the same way, but you have to remember, this isn't POA. We only have 159 members and I'll bet that the great majority aren't very active here. And I also kind of think that most of the active ones aren't really all that much into flying anyway. They are here for the political discussion and name-calling.
--Stan (nddons)
Tentative:
--YouOnlyLiveTwice
--Steingar
--Little Joe
This is sad, people!!! Get thee to Wisconsin!
I wonder how many here really are active flyers?
Post by: Mase on July 18, 2016, 11:42:06 AM
But what if he doesn't really like his airport all that much and the lack of a mechanic is just the last straw?
Obviously, he should find a better field. In that case.
Post by: Lucifer on July 18, 2016, 12:01:23 PM
I wonder how many here really are active flyers?
Do kites count?
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on July 18, 2016, 12:11:58 PM
I wonder how many here really are active flyers?
I used to be. Aside from selling my airplane (I wasn't going to pour $$$ into ADS-B crap), I have personal reasons for no longer flying.
Post by: Little Joe on July 18, 2016, 12:25:26 PM
I used to be. Aside from selling my airplane (I wasn't going to pour $$$ into ADS-B crap), I have personal reasons for no longer flying.I have no problem with that. I was just responding to Stan's post about why so few of us are going to OSH.
Post by: Steingar on July 18, 2016, 12:39:03 PM
If you like your airport, keep your airport.
I wouldn't move just because of no mech on field.
My airport used to be vibrant and active. The capacious tie down area was full, as were the many hangars. There was a really good maintenance shop, and an active flight school. There is a restaurant I've heard is quite good but I wouldn't know, since I can't eat anything there. I used to even purchase their overpriced fuel just to contribute. I am very, very loyal when treated fairly.
Then came 2008.
The tie down area is gone. Hangars sit empty or with non-aviation materials. The guy next to me sold his airplane and keeps his bikes there. He keeps a skeletal fuselage in case anyone asks. Flight school is gone. There is one mechanic who neither answers his phone nor listens to messages and can't even be bothered to fix a flat.
The restaurant where there's nothing to eat is still there.
I am a very active flyer, and I am damn tired of being grounded. And my airplane goes in for annual next month. I am half tempted to give it up. I don't mind the ADSB crap, but the rest of it is really starting to wear me down.
Post by: LevelWing on July 18, 2016, 12:51:46 PM
I wonder how many here really are active flyers?I'm an active flyer and have been working with the Mooney Caravan to be able to make the mass arrival into Oshkosh but the timing hasn't worked out recently. Maybe next year.
Post by: Steingar on July 18, 2016, 01:29:31 PM
I'm an active flyer and have been working with the Mooney Caravan to be able to make the mass arrival into Oshkosh but the timing hasn't worked out recently. Maybe next year.
With luck I'll do that next year.
Post by: nddons on July 18, 2016, 02:15:20 PM
I'm an active flyer and have been working with the Mooney Caravan to be able to make the mass arrival into Oshkosh but the timing hasn't worked out recently. Maybe next year.The Mooney mass arrival is only 30 planes this year (compared to 30 Pipers, 35 Cirri, 80 Cessnas, and 120-150 Bonanzas) so I'm sure there's plenty of room for you and Steingar next year.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on July 18, 2016, 03:57:38 PM
Post by: nddons on July 18, 2016, 07:29:36 PM
I'm active and the President of my EAA Chapter of 250+ members. We serve 120+ at our monthly pancake breakfast. We have a youth program that is building an ultra-lite Pietenpol and our members are building an RV-12.Are you making the trip, Eppy?
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on July 18, 2016, 07:50:33 PM
Are you making the trip, Eppy?
We did Sun n Fun this year. Air Venture will be next year. We were there last year. Lots of members going though, probably 15-20, maybe more.
Post by: Dav8or on July 18, 2016, 10:31:22 PM
Got tire, tube, event the little thingies that go on top the jack for Mooneys. What I don't have include an airplane jack, English measure tools (mine are all metric),and even said cotter pin. I do have safety wire and pliers for it, believe it or not. Did change out the oil, filter, and battery, so I'm not entirely helpless. But I've never changed a tire on anything (I pull wheels, but pay to have tires changed) and the last time I used an inner tube on a tire it was on a Schwinn. Moreover, I've never jacked up an airplane myself either.
All this said, I've got a mechanic coming over from the neighboring airport early this week, so it sounds like my Oshkosh trip is saved. I'll be paying careful attention, and I thin I'll have my eyes out of a jack. I do not intend to be in this position again.
Then again, the lack of mechanical services is forcing me to abandon the airport at which I've been based since the beginning of this century. I am moving the airplane, just don't quite know where yet. I've been grounded of three weeks with a simple flat because a mechanic couldn't be bothered to come fix it. I can only imagine how bad it would be with substantive engine troubles.
Excellent!! Other notes- You'll want some talcum powder too. Sprinkle it in the tire for your initial tube inflation. Your A&P will likely show you this. It helps to keep the tube from kinking in the tire when inflated.
Also, for just a tire and tube change, a Mooney can be jacked just for one wheel by inserting a heavy gauge 1" tube, or 1" solid round bar into the gear "knee" (you know where I mean) and using a floor jack, or bottle jack. Just make sure to chock the other wheels and don't try to climb inside the plane or on the wing while it's up. No wing jack is needed if you don't have one. This is a much cheaper option.
Post by: Dav8or on July 18, 2016, 10:33:27 PM
Ok, so let me get this straight. The following is the known attendance list from this little group:
--Stan (nddons)
Tentative:
--YouOnlyLiveTwice
--Steingar
--Little Joe
This is sad, people!!! Get thee to Wisconsin!
I am in talks with my best friend for next year!!
Post by: Dav8or on July 18, 2016, 10:45:06 PM
I am a very active flyer, and I am damn tired of being grounded. And my airplane goes in for annual next month. I am half tempted to give it up. I don't mind the ADSB crap, but the rest of it is really starting to wear me down.
I totally get it. If you don't do your own work on the plane, it's sucks to have to go find somebody every time something breaks and let's face it, on the old planes most of us fly, shit breaks all the time!
I am loosing my mojo for flying altogether also, but I guess I'm not ready to give it up yet, so a trip to Oshkosh would help, but long term I'm considering trading the Mooney for a Vans RV. I'm really not a huge fan of the RV and have never salivated to own one, but the numbers add up and I think I can save a significant amount of money as well as not having the government looming over me every time the plane gets a hick up, or wants something new.
We'll see, more research is needed.
Post by: Steingar on July 19, 2016, 08:58:19 AM
Post by: nddons on July 19, 2016, 11:57:30 AM
Airplane is fixed, I'm going flying tonight. Oshkosh is on!Good man! That makes two. Steingar and I are going to be drinking buddies.
Post by: Mase on July 19, 2016, 12:04:29 PM
Airplane is fixed, I'm going flying tonight. Oshkosh is on!
Good to hear your airplane is Tired!
Post by: Steingar on July 19, 2016, 12:53:31 PM
But yeah, I do want to drink with some of my internet buddies. My campsite will have a red and white Mooney with a big green canopy next to it.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on July 19, 2016, 03:11:02 PM
Post by: nddons on July 19, 2016, 03:18:26 PM
Yup. I'm hoping you guys will point yourselves out at the Show so I can put some faces to screen names, or at least try. Thanks for all the well wishes. Dumbest thing in the world to be down for three weeks in July with a blown tire. I'll never let that happen again.Michael, I've met you a couple of times at Jay and Mary Honeck's party. Last year I didn't make it there until after it was dark, as I was coming off my late Flightline Ops shift.
But yeah, I do want to drink with some of my internet buddies. My campsite will have a red and white Mooney with a big green canopy next to it.
Post by: LevelWing on July 20, 2016, 12:42:23 PM
The Mooney mass arrival is only 30 planes this year (compared to 30 Pipers, 35 Cirri, 80 Cessnas, and 120-150 Bonanzas) so I'm sure there's plenty of room for you and Steingar next year.Last year I believe it was over 40 so that's a decent decrease. Still, I'd like to do it one of these years.
Post by: Steingar on July 20, 2016, 01:26:52 PM
Michael, I've met you a couple of times at Jay and Mary Honeck's party. Last year I didn't make it there until after it was dark, as I was coming off my late Flightline Ops shift.
Do me a favor and smack me upside the head or something when you get there. I hate not recognizing people. One of the things about myself I would change if I could.
Post by: nddons on July 20, 2016, 01:38:11 PM
Do me a favor and smack me upside the head or something when you get there. I hate not recognizing people. One of the things about myself I would change if I could.Wilco.
Post by: Steingar on July 20, 2016, 01:39:45 PM
Wilco.And do remember I haven't a clue who anyone is here. Well, most of anyone.
Post by: nddons on July 24, 2016, 10:03:34 AM
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160724/794f9723c3930c863f1a5a00a5dbb1f4.jpg)
Post by: nddons on July 24, 2016, 10:04:55 AM
Post by: Little Joe on July 25, 2016, 06:59:35 AM
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on July 25, 2016, 07:21:13 AM
8:30am on Monday and general parking is full. Diverting to alternate airport.
Can the fact that general parking is full be viewed as a good sign?
Post by: nddons on July 25, 2016, 08:04:17 AM
Can the fact that general parking is full be viewed as a good sign?Yes, was almost full after my last shift yesterday. A good sign indeed.
Post by: acrogimp on July 25, 2016, 02:00:57 PM
2018 would mark the 30th anniversary of my first trip to OSH but I haven't been to OSH since '03, LAL since 2007.
Even with the Aux Tank in, it looks like no less than 7 legs and about 14 hours, so 2-days each way before Wx or mechanicals, and probably 400 gallons of fuel and 2.5-3 cases of oil roundtrip.
But what an adventure. Camp under the wing maybe for extra fun.
Definitely a solo gig though.
'Gimp
Post by: nddons on July 26, 2016, 04:43:50 AM
Friggin' cool.
Post by: LevelWing on July 26, 2016, 12:27:40 PM
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160724/044d16234a01a4c47898562426e9ee5e.jpg)Did anybody find out who this was? Did the plane come in with the Mooney Caravan?
Post by: nddons on July 26, 2016, 02:07:07 PM
Did anybody find out who this was? Did the plane come in with the Mooney Caravan?No. It was just a plane that came in via the Fisk Approach.
Post by: Steingar on August 03, 2016, 07:46:19 AM
Post by: nddons on August 03, 2016, 08:42:31 AM
https://youtu.be/1fuWH0dYago
I'll start posting some pictures.
Post by: nddons on August 03, 2016, 08:49:59 AM
Post by: nddons on August 03, 2016, 08:52:49 AM
Post by: nddons on August 03, 2016, 08:54:26 AM
My front office on my last shift Saturday evening.
Post by: JeffDG on August 03, 2016, 09:29:26 AM
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160803/b4f13e8dc74f5d95d950338ce08babba.jpg)You know I've gotta give that one a Thumbs Up.
I went to see them once just after I moved and got my PP in Anderson, SC. I have an Atlanta Sectional somewhere with an autograph from Snowbird #1 in Snowbird MOA.
Post by: nddons on August 04, 2016, 01:54:56 PM
My friend's L-5 Stinson.
Post by: nddons on August 04, 2016, 01:56:14 PM
Our CAF Wing leader about to give a friend of mine a ride in our SNJ.
Post by: nddons on August 04, 2016, 02:01:08 PM
Working a shift next to the ATC "moo cow" at the intersection of Alpha, Bravo, and runway 27.
Post by: nddons on August 04, 2016, 02:22:02 PM
Action shot of nddons
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Post by: nddons on August 04, 2016, 02:27:21 PM
Super Hornet waiting to kick off the night airshow.