PILOT SPIN
Pilot Zone => Accident Review/Never Again (I hope..) => Topic started by: PeterNSteinmetz on October 11, 2021, 09:24:51 PM
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https://fox5sandiego.com/news/local-news/plane-crashes-near-high-school-in-santee-reports/ (https://fox5sandiego.com/news/local-news/plane-crashes-near-high-school-in-santee-reports/)
Here's the link to Kathryn's Report on this accident:
http://www.kathrynsreport.com/2021/10/fatal-accident-occurred-october-11-2021.html
Videos from the immediate aftermath.
https://twitter.com/ModernTimesLB/status/1447667375373893638
https://twitter.com/10News/status/1447672780099506177
Does not look good, into two houses and a UPS truck. Fire Chief reporting "multiple Casualties" at least two confirmed.
Early reports say it was C310?
He's called as traffic at 14:41 here: https://archive.liveatc.net/ksee/KSEE-Oct-11-2021-1900Z.mp3
and the pilot says "He crashed into the houses."
Here's a very confused Cessna 22G trying to fly the ILS, get's approach clearance cancelled, and low alt alert.
https://archive.liveatc.net/ksan/KSAN-SOCAL-App-Dep-East-Oct-11-2021-1900Z.mp3
N7022G, a Cessna 310. Was out of Yuma heading for MGY, the tape sounds like he got lost and confused in the cloud.
Weather was around 2700 broken at the time, gusting to 17.
Audio, it starts around the 9 minute mark.
https://archive.liveatc.net/ksan/KSAN-SOCAL-App-Dep-East-Oct-11-2021-1900Z.mp3?fbclid=IwAR1vAT4InHxfYCxgkikxcAocSZe0ahZqbZeaXvxxx7_EqR3TmgosgQJrLu4
Comment from Kathryn's list:
AnonymousMonday, October 11, 2021 at 5:05:00 PM EDT
Two homes involved in fire. Elderly couple minor injuries, taken to UC San Diego Medical Center. Possibly aided by a good Samaritan, as the airplane (attempting to land?) hit a car, a boat and a "UPS' truck, according to the son of the folks who lost their home talking to news reporter at scene. No info on the "UPS" driver or the aircraft occupant(s). Gillespie Field is
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N7022G/history/20211011/1700Z/KNYL/KMYF/tracklog
N7022G. Took me a bit to track it down. It's a Cessna 340. Data track doesn't look so good...[ATTACH=full]100868[/ATTACH]
22G Low altitude alert climb immediately. climb the airplane. Maintain 5000. Expedite climb. Climb the airplane please.
22G just level... out the heading and climb the airplane to 5000 when you can, sir.
22G traffic alert ten o'clock and five miles 1500... You appear to be descending again, sir. WHat's your altitude?
[Nothing more heard from 22G].
You can hear it in his voice that the socal controller knows he's crashed at this point as he sorts some stuff out with others and a few seconds later a new voice takes over.
Plane registered to SAMARTH AVIATION LLC in Yuma, AZ (which seems to be the home base). That seems to be controlled by a Sugata Das, MD of Yuma. Cardiology specialist.
Medical Information:
Medical Class: First Medical Date: 8/2020
MUST HAVE AVAILABLE GLASSES FOR NEAR VISION.
BasicMed Course Date: 6/19/2017 BasicMed CMEC Date: 6/19/2017
Certificates
COMMERCIAL PILOT
Certificates Description
Certificate: COMMERCIAL PILOT
Date of Issue: 10/24/2014
Ratings:
COMMERCIAL PILOT
AIRPLANE MULTIENGINE LAND
INSTRUMENT AIRPLANE
PRIVATE PRIVILEGES
AIRPLANE SINGLE ENGINE LAND
Limits:
ENGLISH PROFICIENT.
Found this bio:
In 2010, a fortuitous incident sparked an interest in general aviation. As an instrument rated pilot with a multiengine rating, Sugata Das is owner pilot of a twin Cessna 340 as well as an RV9A, which he flies between Yuma and San Diego, his family home. Sugata and Sujata are doting parents to boys, ages 12 and eight.
Caught on someone's doorbell: https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/doorbell-cam-catches-plane-crash-in-santee/2741168/
From the audio recording:
Note - I removed some of the irrelevant
12:47 - ATC - "22G Turn right heading 090 climb immediately, maintain 4000"
12:52 - 22G - "four thousand climb immediately 22G"
12:56 - ATC "ok, it looks like your descending sir, I need to make sure you are climbing not descending"
13:00 - 22G - unintelligible (two maybe three words)
12:27 - ATC - "22G say altitude"
13:30 - 22G - "twenty five hundred - 22G"
13:31 - ATC - "22G Low altitude alert CLIMB IMMEDIATELY CLIMB THE AIRPLANE MAINTAIN FIVE THOUSAND expedite climb, climb the airplane please." (emphasis ATC)
13:57 - ATC - "22G... just level off the plane at, er the heading and climb the airplane up to 5000 when you can sir"
14:17 - ATC (garbled - multiple radio broadcasts) - ...traffic alert 22G 10 o'clock and a half mile one thousand five hundred you appear to be descending again sir are you... say altitude"
14:29 - ATC "(unintelligble)... 7022G So Cal Approach"
14:37 - ATC "the altimeter is currently 2978"
From that transmission until ~16:30 ATC spends quite a bit of time catching up with other traffic
~16:40 a new controller comes on frequency
This is tower frequency (note - I'm not sure if these time stamps correlate with the approach time stamps)
14:24 - Tower - "Copter 129 traffic ahead 1/2 a mile uh Eastbound a twin Cessna one thousand one hundred"
14:35 - "uh tower the aircraft just crashed about a 1/2 mile in front of us into the houses"
Doorbell video of the descent and crash partway through the article…
https://www.king5.com/article/news/local/plane-crash-near-santana-high-school-santee/509-402be584-7516-43da-92b5-532553bbe6a5
The audio was hideous. He missed a dozen chances from SoCal to right things and failed.
This is the right time for that "he was so far behind the airplane, he'd be late to the crash scene" anecdote to come true, but I suspect he's in the crater along with a few burnt C340A pieces and a brown ballcap. :mad:
Rotten airmanship that got innocent people killed. I don't generally like barking at CFIs in a pilot's past, but this time may warrant it. I'm gonna stop complaining about onerous insurance checkout requirements for a little bit too.
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While it’s very tempting to chalk this up as simple disorientation, it’s possible he had a mechanical or electrical problem. It seemed a simple enough flight for someone who was IR and regularly flew back and forth all the time for work.
Edit: unless he is only recently rated or it is a new to him airplane. I haven’t had time to listen to the tapes.
Rant on: Why must the news mention it was “near” a school in every report about this crash? You’re near a school everywhere in any city. Schools are all over the place. They deliberately want to conjure up images in the mind of the public of planes crashing into schools and killing a hundred kids. Despicable. Rant off.
The UPS guy: You’re a UPS driver. What are the statistical odds you’ll die by a plane falling on you instead of a regular vehicle accident? Poor guy, was near retirement and apparently a nice well liked delivery man.
Whether the pilot was at fault or not, the loss of a good cardiologist is regrettable.
RIP to both (all?) of them.
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AOPA has a video on this accident. These are rather high quality videos.
https://youtu.be/3FHdC1_Jxc0
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AOPA has a video on this accident. These are rather high quality videos.
https://youtu.be/3FHdC1_Jxc0
That was excellent.
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That was excellent. Richard was my first Navion instructor, so I texted him about it.
I told him that the presentation of the Cessna 340 accident was outstanding. It’s great for the AOPA Air Safety Institute to get out in front of this, in a very thoughtful and respectful way. There are too many YouTube armchair quarterbacks out there wanting to be the first to point blame at someone or something. I’m sure you know the guy I’m talking about.
Here was his response:
“Stan - Thanks for the feedback and the affirmation of value of these. You are exactly correct in why we’re doing them!”
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That was one of the things that also impressed me about it. It was done in a respectful manner.