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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: JeffDG on August 14, 2016, 02:19:30 PM

Title: Trump's People
Post by: JeffDG on August 14, 2016, 02:19:30 PM
Title: Re: Trump's People
Post by: JeffDG on August 14, 2016, 06:31:24 PM
OK, So Donnie has only called Alex "Terrific" and said he has a great show, but he hasn't hired him to run his campaign or anything like that.  That he leaves to people who take sacks of cash from Putin:


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cp3Mw70UIAApy9R.jpg:large)


Thanks, Trumpkins.
Title: Re: Trump's People
Post by: asechrest on August 14, 2016, 08:03:47 PM


What the hell did I just watch?
Title: Re: Trump's People
Post by: Kristin on August 15, 2016, 01:30:51 AM
Neanderthal!  Not yet evolved!
Title: Re: Trump's People
Post by: Little Joe on August 15, 2016, 04:38:49 AM
What the hell did I just watch?
Just Jeff lashing out in anguish.
Title: Re: Trump's People
Post by: asechrest on August 15, 2016, 06:47:54 AM

The Manafort thing is blowing up today.
Title: Re: Trump's People
Post by: Lucifer on August 15, 2016, 07:00:02 AM
The Manafort thing is blowing up today.

Of course it is, in the MSM.

And this is being ignored by the MSM:

https://www.buzzfeed.com/katiejmbaker/juanita-broaddrick-wants-to-be-believed?utm_term=.rfKJR4LLM#.lc9ZypnnQ

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-08-15/huma-abedin-s-overlapping-jobs-renew-focus-on-clinton-conflicts

http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2016/08/sailor-seeks-leniency-in-submarine-photos-case-by-citing-clinton-226995

http://bigstory.ap.org/urn:publicid:ap.org:87ea77c903564f7580eae8d33f71f47e

http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/Hacked-Soros-e-mails-reveal-plans-to-fight-Israels-racist-policies-464149#article=6017QTMwNUU1MzRGNjM1RUZDQ0QyQjU1RTEzRjc0Mzk3N0Y

 And on, and on, and on................
Title: Re: Trump's People
Post by: LevelWing on August 15, 2016, 11:16:20 AM
I'm not entirely sure what I just watched or why I watched it.
Title: Re: Trump's People
Post by: LevelWing on August 15, 2016, 11:17:12 AM
Of course it is, in the MSM.

And this is being ignored by the MSM:

https://www.buzzfeed.com/katiejmbaker/juanita-broaddrick-wants-to-be-believed?utm_term=.rfKJR4LLM#.lc9ZypnnQ

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-08-15/huma-abedin-s-overlapping-jobs-renew-focus-on-clinton-conflicts

http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2016/08/sailor-seeks-leniency-in-submarine-photos-case-by-citing-clinton-226995

http://bigstory.ap.org/urn:publicid:ap.org:87ea77c903564f7580eae8d33f71f47e

http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/Hacked-Soros-e-mails-reveal-plans-to-fight-Israels-racist-policies-464149#article=6017QTMwNUU1MzRGNjM1RUZDQ0QyQjU1RTEzRjc0Mzk3N0Y

 And on, and on, and on................
There is a lot that is ignored by the media, nobody should be surprised at this point. Even things that are, or should be, huge news stories, are just let go.
Title: Re: Trump's People
Post by: asechrest on August 15, 2016, 11:26:52 AM
Of course it is, in the MSM.

And this is being ignored by the MSM:

https://www.buzzfeed.com/katiejmbaker/juanita-broaddrick-wants-to-be-believed?utm_term=.rfKJR4LLM#.lc9ZypnnQ

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-08-15/huma-abedin-s-overlapping-jobs-renew-focus-on-clinton-conflicts

http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2016/08/sailor-seeks-leniency-in-submarine-photos-case-by-citing-clinton-226995

http://bigstory.ap.org/urn:publicid:ap.org:87ea77c903564f7580eae8d33f71f47e

http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/Hacked-Soros-e-mails-reveal-plans-to-fight-Israels-racist-policies-464149#article=6017QTMwNUU1MzRGNjM1RUZDQ0QyQjU1RTEzRjc0Mzk3N0Y

 And on, and on, and on................

"But Hillary!" Also, how can it be ignored by the MSM if you just posted links from the MSM?
Title: Re: Trump's People
Post by: Lucifer on August 15, 2016, 12:07:17 PM
"But Hillary!" Also, how can it be ignored by the MSM if you just posted links from the MSM?

 Those sites hardly qualify as MSM.  Nice try though.
Title: Re: Trump's People
Post by: asechrest on August 15, 2016, 12:12:43 PM
Those sites hardly qualify as MSM.  Nice try though.

Associated Press, Politico, Bloomberg? MSM. I mean, Politico is even part of the "liberal media", or so I hear, so if they're not ignoring it, neither are other folks. Good try, though.

And anyway, the thread seems to be about Trump's people, no? Any comment on Manafort?
Title: Re: Trump's People
Post by: JeffDG on August 15, 2016, 12:45:51 PM
Those sites hardly qualify as MSM.  Nice try though.
Bloomberg?
Politico?
AP?


These aren't "MSM"?  Seriously?
Title: Re: Trump's People
Post by: JeffDG on August 15, 2016, 12:46:54 PM
And anyway, the thread seems to be about Trump's people, no? Any comment on Manafort?
I'm wondering if Donnie's taxes will prove deeper ties to the Russians than he wants his people to see.
Title: Re: Trump's People
Post by: LevelWing on August 15, 2016, 12:50:32 PM
I'm wondering if Donnie's taxes will prove deeper ties to the Russians than he wants his people to see.
Hillary should be disqualified from running for taking money from foreign governments. If it can be proven that Trump did the same then he should be disqualified as well.
Title: Re: Trump's People
Post by: Lucifer on August 15, 2016, 12:57:27 PM
"But Hillary!" Also, how can it be ignored by the MSM if you just posted links from the MSM?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=MSM

Quote
"mainstream media", major TV networks and large newspapers.
Title: Re: Trump's People
Post by: JeffDG on August 15, 2016, 01:12:57 PM
Hillary should be disqualified from running for taking money from foreign governments. If it can be proven that Trump did the same then he should be disqualified as well.
Since a number of his bankruptcies, he's been having trouble getting financing from US banks, and Russian banks stepped into the vacuum.


I'm sure when he releases his taxes, this will all be cleared up...oh, wait...he's not doing what every other Presidential candidate in, well, forever, has done.
Title: Re: Trump's People
Post by: asechrest on August 15, 2016, 01:20:46 PM
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=MSM

Ah, yes. Urban Dictionary, the bastion of accurate definitions.

Any comment on Manafort?
Title: Re: Trump's People
Post by: JeffDG on August 15, 2016, 01:22:24 PM
Ah, yes. Urban Dictionary, the bastion of accurate definitions.

Any comment on Manafort?
How 'bout the fact that Ivanka is off in Eastern Europe on vacation with Putin's girlfriend?  No, Trump's not tied to the Russians at all!
Title: Re: Trump's People
Post by: Lucifer on August 15, 2016, 01:32:10 PM
Ah, yes. Urban Dictionary, the bastion of accurate definitions.

 Of course you would disagree, it doesn't fit your agenda.
 
Any comment on Manafort?

 The majority of the various outlets I read aren't covering it. Take that anyway you want, but the "story" is just more MSM propaganda.

(http://i1077.photobucket.com/albums/w464/flybywire1959/original%201_zpsgyzhy3yr.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump's People
Post by: asechrest on August 15, 2016, 02:24:09 PM
Of course you would disagree, it doesn't fit your agenda.
 
 The majority of the various outlets I read aren't covering it. Take that anyway you want, but the "story" is just more MSM propaganda.

See now? You actually can comment on Trump with something other than "but Hillary!". And it's actually an ok position to take; that you don't believe the information due to the sources doing the reporting. I guess we'll see.
Title: Re: Trump's People
Post by: Number7 on August 15, 2016, 02:30:21 PM
The problem lots of people are having is that one of these horrible choices will end up as our next president.
I honestly thought it couldn't get any worse than people being given the choice between Obama and McCain but have been shown the painful truth this year.
We are stuck with one or the other and most of us can't stomach either one.
Title: Re: Trump's People
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on August 15, 2016, 05:00:55 PM
Is it really a binary choice?

Title: Re: Trump's People
Post by: Little Joe on August 15, 2016, 05:05:15 PM
Is it really a binary choice?
Pretty much.

Sure, you can write in anyone you want, or vote for a 3rd party, but either Trump or Hillary is going to win.  So it' s time for people to decide if they want Hillary for President or not.  If not, then voting for the only possible alternative (Trump) is necessary.  Or vice versa.

Title: Re: Trump's People
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on August 15, 2016, 05:17:43 PM
Is it really a binary choice?

A new late entrant to the race:

Title: Re: Trump's People
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on August 15, 2016, 05:18:53 PM
I can now go to my grave knowing that the next generation is ready to take the torch of leadership.
Title: Re: Trump's People
Post by: nddons on August 15, 2016, 06:48:01 PM
A new late entrant to the race:


I see the $1.029 TRILLION spent on education last year was money very well spent. 

😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡

http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/us_education_spending_20.html
Title: Re: Trump's People
Post by: asechrest on August 17, 2016, 11:00:56 AM
More Manafort stuff:

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/c01989a47ee5421593ba1b301ec07813/ap-sources-manafort-tied-undisclosed-foreign-lobbying

Quote
Donald Trump's campaign chairman helped a pro-Russian governing party in Ukraine secretly route at least $2.2 million in payments to two prominent Washington lobbying firms in 2012, and did so in a way that effectively obscured the foreign political party's efforts to influence U.S. policy.

The revelation, provided to The Associated Press by people directly knowledgeable about the effort, comes at a time when Trump has faced criticism for his friendly overtures to Russian President Vladimir Putin. It also casts new light on the business practices of campaign chairman Paul Manafort.
Title: Re: Trump's People
Post by: JeffDG on August 17, 2016, 11:09:44 AM
More Manafort stuff:

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/c01989a47ee5421593ba1b301ec07813/ap-sources-manafort-tied-undisclosed-foreign-lobbying (http://bigstory.ap.org/article/c01989a47ee5421593ba1b301ec07813/ap-sources-manafort-tied-undisclosed-foreign-lobbying)
Trump only surrounds himself with the BEST PEOPLE!
Title: Re: Trump's People
Post by: LevelWing on August 17, 2016, 11:13:44 AM
Trump only surrounds himself with the BEST PEOPLE!
Manafort is no longer the campaign manager. Stephen K. Bannon, Chairman and CEO of Breitbart News is the new campaign CEO and Kellyanne Conway is the new campaign manager:

Quote from: NBC News
NEW YORK — Donald Trump is shaking up his campaign's leadership amid flagging poll numbers, NBC News has learned.

Kellyanne Conway — already a senior adviser to the campaign — told NBC News she has been promoted to the role of campaign manager. She confirmed that Paul Manafort will stay on as campaign chair but said Stephen Bannon, the co-founder of conservative Breitbart News, will come on board as campaign CEO.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/donald-trump-hands-kellyanne-conway-stephen-bannon-new-roles-campaign-n632471

Shapiro has an interesting take on this given that he used to be the editor-at-large for Breitbart News until the whole Michelle Fields/Corey Lewandowski incident:

http://www.dailywire.com/news/8441/i-know-trumps-new-campaign-chairman-steve-bannon-ben-shapiro
Title: Re: Trump's People
Post by: JeffDG on August 17, 2016, 11:24:27 AM
Manafort is no longer the campaign manager. Stephen K. Bannon, Chairman and CEO of Breitbart News is the new campaign CEO and Kellyanne Conway is the new campaign manager:
Manafort never held the title of "campaign manager".  His title was, and remains, campaign chairman.
Title: Re: Trump's People
Post by: LevelWing on August 17, 2016, 11:30:17 AM
Manafort never held the title of "campaign manager".  His title was, and remains, campaign chairman.
I thought he became campaign chairman after Lewandowski was ousted. Either way, he's being pushed aside for Bannon and Conway to come in.
Title: Re: Trump's People
Post by: asechrest on August 17, 2016, 12:19:25 PM
I thought he became campaign chairman after Lewandowski was ousted. Either way, he's being pushed aside for Bannon and Conway to come in.

Not according to the campaign. He remains as campaign chairman and will continue in that role.
Title: Re: Trump's People
Post by: JeffDG on August 17, 2016, 12:30:12 PM
Not according to the campaign. He remains as campaign chairman and will continue in that role.
I guess Trump doesn't know how to fire people.
Title: Re: Trump's People
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on August 17, 2016, 01:38:05 PM
I guess Trump doesn't know how to fire people.

Wrong!




Title: Re: Trump's People
Post by: JeffDG on August 17, 2016, 01:41:04 PM
Wrong!





But, I thought  Manafort had been replaced?  But he is still Chairman of the campaign.
Title: Re: Trump's People
Post by: Little Joe on August 17, 2016, 01:43:46 PM
But, I thought  Manafort had been replaced?  But he is still Chairman of the campaign.
Jeff, you sound much more intelligent when you aren't being sarcastic. (Which has not been very often lately).
Title: Re: Trump's People
Post by: asechrest on August 19, 2016, 10:53:20 AM
Manafort quits.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/20/us/politics/paul-manafort-resigns-donald-trump.html?_r=0