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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on June 14, 2021, 06:27:38 AM

Title: SCOTUS
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on June 14, 2021, 06:27:38 AM
Anyone else notice the number of 9-0 rulings lately?  What do you think is going on?
Title: Re: SCOTUS
Post by: texasag93 on June 14, 2021, 06:41:12 AM
I think they are doing what SCOTUS did during FDRs presidency.... trying to keep the number at 9. 

If Roberts would have taken up the Texas case about election laws, the Dems would have made it a battle cry to get more justices to get rid of the 5-1-4 conservative slant. 

If the House and/or Senate go back to the Republicans, the rulings will go back to normal (whatever the hell that means under the Robert's Era).
Title: Re: SCOTUS
Post by: nddons on June 14, 2021, 06:44:02 AM
Anyone else notice the number of 9-0 rulings lately?  What do you think is going on?
I think with all the talk of packing the court, Roberts doesn’t want to be seen as a partisan court, so he’s picking and choosing clear-cut cases to demonstrate that both factions can agree on some matters.

Doing so also provides a protective cushion for when the inevitable 5-4 or 6-3 rulings start to come down the pike.
Title: Re: SCOTUS
Post by: bflynn on June 14, 2021, 06:51:04 AM
Anyone else notice the number of 9-0 rulings lately?  What do you think is going on?

Selection bias.  Having a unanimous decision is the most common thing that happens.  To the power focused media, it must be a plot to prove that they're not biased, but the fact is, they're really not significantly biased. 

Historically the majority of the cases come in at 7-2 or better.  5-4 decisions make up less than 20%.
Title: Re: SCOTUS
Post by: Anthony on June 28, 2021, 04:51:04 AM
Selection bias.  Having a unanimous decision is the most common thing that happens.  To the power focused media, it must be a plot to prove that they're not biased, but the fact is, they're really not significantly biased. 

Historically the majority of the cases come in at 7-2 or better.  5-4 decisions make up less than 20%.

And why is that?  The court shirks it's responsibility and rarely hears cases of substance and meaning.  When they do its always right down politcally ideological lines with Roberts now as the wild card, compromised traitor.
Title: Re: SCOTUS
Post by: Rush on June 28, 2021, 05:57:19 AM
And why is that?  The court shirks it's responsibility and rarely hears cases of substance and meaning.  When they do its always right down politcally ideological lines with Roberts now as the wild card, compromised traitor.

I heard someone comment recently that on issues where the ruling will likely result in major societal change, they wait until society’s general opinion sways before taking a case. Not that they’re supposed to rule based on public opinion, but that if the constitutional ruling goes against stalwart public opinion it is more disruptive and they let it be fought over in lower courts at state level for a while until the general atmosphere is more favorable for the change.
Title: Re: SCOTUS
Post by: nddons on June 28, 2021, 06:50:50 AM
I heard someone comment recently that on issues where the ruling will likely result in major societal change, they wait until society’s general opinion sways before taking a case. Not that they’re supposed to rule based on public opinion, but that if the constitutional ruling goes against stalwart public opinion it is more disruptive and they let it be fought over in lower courts at state level for a while until the general atmosphere is more favorable for the change.
I agree. For years now the Roberts court intentionally fails to take up the major decisions of the day, in hope that they go away or get cleared up at a lower court level. He sees the Supreme Court as a super-Appeals court, when it is really something quite different.
Title: Re: SCOTUS
Post by: Lucifer on June 28, 2021, 07:35:56 AM
As most presidential administrations age with time, they soften and their accomplishments outweigh the negatives.

For the GWB administration, just the opposite is happening.   As it ages, we are seeing more and more of the fallacies.

Roberts tops the list.  He's been a major disappointment on the SC.   GWB should have promoted Scalia or Thomas to Chief Justice (IMO) and picked someone other than Roberts to the bench.
Title: Re: SCOTUS
Post by: texasag93 on June 28, 2021, 05:22:16 PM
As most presidential administrations age with time, they soften and their accomplishments outweigh the negatives.

For the GWB administration, just the opposite is happening.   As it ages, we are seeing more and more of the fallacies.

Roberts tops the list.  He's been a major disappointment on the SC.   GWB should have promoted Scalia or Thomas to Chief Justice (IMO) and picked someone other than Roberts to the bench.

Whomever has a picture of GWB f****** a goat made sure Roberts was the nominee.