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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 27, 2023, 07:01:03 AM
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1638273707306098688
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1637168605308526592
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He's right.
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Yea he is saying ALL the right things so far.
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I like what he says but he doesn’t have what it takes to win, not yet anyway.
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I hope y'all will watch this. Tell me that Trump or DeSantis or Haley or ..... understand this stuff as well as Vivek does and can explain it as he does.
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I hope y'all will watch this. Tell me that Trump or DeSantis or Haley or ..... understand this stuff as well as Vivek does and can explain it as he does.
Peterson has the most amazing interviews. I watched a chunk of it. They’re too long for me most of the time, I have to find a chore that fits the timeframe. I mostly stick to 15-20 minute videos. Peterson is great for when I mow the yard, it’ll last the whole hour and a half without me having to stop, get out my phone and put on another video.
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https://twitter.com/VivekGRamaswamy/status/1641847536796172289
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Yep, saw that post
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I watched all of it. He’s too good. I mean his ideas are so comprehensive I don’t know if the average voter can relate to him. I’m not sure he’d be a strong leader. He strikes me as a brilliant nerd.
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I watched all of it. He’s too good. I mean his ideas are so comprehensive I don’t know if the average voter can relate to him. I’m not sure he’d be a strong leader. He strikes me as a brilliant nerd.
Good points. People like us follow what he is saying; your average knuckle dragging democrat won’t be able to understand his words, because they grew up in a world that has never listed to an entire album, has never read a book, and look for the Cliff Notes version of every piece of information they may digest.
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1642269385262788612
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1642269385262788612
Red flag/Bullshit detectors blinking double red.
This guy is like the smooth operator who tells women everything they want to hear so they’ll fall in love and then he owns them.
I mean, he’s just bullet pointing every issue that decent, thinking, patriotic people are concerned about.
No.
Donate with “secure.winred .com?”
No. That is a grifting machine proven to be a grifting machine since 2020.
No.
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1653412011688992771
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Earlier polls had him at 1%
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I like what he is saying.
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He’s siphoning away votes from RDS.
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His goal is to get on the debate stage. He has gained some serious traction.
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Tweet today.....
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Here is my problem with Trump.
Too many people really really hate him. They hate him with ever fiber in their being. They are impassioned about their hate and don't mind telling anyone and everyone. They encourage others to vote (against Trump) and belittle and humiliate anyone that doesn't vote against Trump.
In my experience, almost ever Democrat I know, and I know way to many of them, admit that there was cheating in the 2020 election, BUT THEY DON'T CARE. Even people that I thought were good and honest, even if naive are fine with cheating as long as it keeps Trump from winning.
And there are a LOT of these people.
These people don't like DeSantis either because he used to support Trump, but they don't HATE him like they hate Trump. I think some of this is because Trump has turned on DeSantis and they figure that if Trump doesn't like him he must not be all bad.
If Trump gets the nomination these people will become so fired up and will vote in such massive numbers, and donate massive amounts of money fighting Trump that I don't see any way he can win. I will support him any way, but it won't be with the conviction that he can win.
I believe DeSantis will be nearly as good as Trump, but I don't think DeSantis will arouse near the hostility and resistance that Trump will.
To steal a colloquialism, "Hell hath no fury like a woke liberal LGBTQXYZ scorned".
For those of you calling for a civil war, let Trump win the Presidency and you will get your wish.
https://days.to/election-day-in-us/2024 (520 days as of June 2, 2023).
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Here is my problem with Trump.
Too many people really really hate him. They hate him with ever fiber in their being. They are impassioned about their hate and don't mind telling anyone and everyone. They encourage others to vote (against Trump) and belittle and humiliate anyone that doesn't vote against Trump.
In my experience, almost ever Democrat I know, and I know way to many of them, admit that there was cheating in the 2020 election, BUT THEY DON'T CARE. Even people that I thought were good and honest, even if naive are fine with cheating as long as it keeps Trump from winning.
And there are a LOT of these people.
These people don't like DeSantis either because he used to support Trump, but they don't HATE him like they hate Trump. I think some of this is because Trump has turned on DeSantis and they figure that if Trump doesn't like him he must not be all bad.
If Trump gets the nomination these people will become so fired up and will vote in such massive numbers, and donate massive amounts of money fighting Trump that I don't see any way he can win. I will support him any way, but it won't be with the conviction that he can win.
I believe DeSantis will be nearly as good as Trump, but I don't think DeSantis will arouse near the hostility and resistance that Trump will.
To steal a colloquialism, "Hell hath no fury like a woke liberal LGBTQXYZ scorned".
For those of you calling for a civil war, let Trump win the Presidency and you will get your wish.
https://days.to/election-day-in-us/2024 (520 days as of June 2, 2023).
That’s a plausible argument. But they hate him so much because they’ve been lied to about him by the media and never tried to understand his actual policies. I have a problem not voting for Trump because of that reason, because it means they won. They have made me disillusioned and hopeless. That’s what they want. I don’t want to be maneuvered by them like that.
Here’s an example of the brainwashed by MSM, and probably his leftist colleagues at Harvard Law. This man, Randall Kennedy, said that Trump was elected in 2016 as a racist backlash against Obama’s presidency as having been the first black president. First, he believes Trump and his supporters are racist, which is not true. Second, it is false that Trump won as a repudiation against a black president. It was a repudiation against Hillary! Third, Trump’s presidency did way more for blacks than Obama’s or Biden’s simply because of a good economy, but also because of the First Step Act, which addresses something else he talks about, racial disparity in the criminal justice system.
That man is very well educated and a good critical thinker yet is totally blinded about Trump due to his probable diet of mainstream media as well as what comes across as inherent racial prejudice which seems to have been instilled in him by his father, maybe understandably considering his father’s generation. That despite claiming that he eventually figured out that not all white people are bad and that some in fact are quite nice. The analogy of the white saying “I have some nice black friends” trope which is supposed to be racist.
But still, he makes some very good arguments and this is a good listen. For example, he gives the good side and bad side of affirmative action. Although he leaves out one important downside: it is outright discrimination against whites. He reveres MLK Jr but doesn’t discuss how discrimination against whites is the literal reverse of what MLK preached. But he does mention that a downside of affirmative action is “resentment”, presumably on the part of whites, but sidesteps the fact that that resentment is fully justified.
On the plus side he strongly favors meritocracy and says yes it matters and is problematic if you accept low test scores over higher ones. He also supports free speech and makes the case it needs to be equally applied to all sides. Apparently he is against banning conservatives or any particular ideology from campuses.
Anyhow, he’s the perfect example of someone who seemingly hates Trump (though he doesn’t come out and say so; it’s implied in that he thinks Trump is “racist” and was very bad for the country) but it seems he’s also anti-capitalism, probably an economic leftist although they didn’t get into economics.
He’s the boomer generation, so still thinks of Republicans and not the Democrats as the big corporate grifters, it seems. And he is in academia, got a law degree and now teaches so unless I missed it, if he’s done that all his life, does not have any understanding of how the actual world works. How are you going to spend your life like that and not be a radical leftist in your economics? It’s a miracle he is able to see both sides of an issue to the extent he does.
I haven’t read his book though, so maybe it delves deeper and isn’t quite like what I get from the video.
And for some reason the YouTube brackets make this say the video is unavailable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFXGpKf9VBU&list=PLrAXtmErZgOdP_8GztsuKi9nrraNbKKp4&index=3
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…and the media is automatically going to give anyone else running as a conservative a fair shake…. Because… because… oh, just because.
Now I get it.
We should all vote for biden then the media will love us again, right?
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Here is my problem with Trump.
Too many people really really hate him. They hate him with ever fiber in their being. They are impassioned about their hate and don't mind telling anyone and everyone. They encourage others to vote (against Trump) and belittle and humiliate anyone that doesn't vote against Trump.
In my experience, almost ever Democrat I know, and I know way to many of them, admit that there was cheating in the 2020 election, BUT THEY DON'T CARE. Even people that I thought were good and honest, even if naive are fine with cheating as long as it keeps Trump from winning.
And there are a LOT of these people.
These people don't like DeSantis either because he used to support Trump, but they don't HATE him like they hate Trump. I think some of this is because Trump has turned on DeSantis and they figure that if Trump doesn't like him he must not be all bad.
If Trump gets the nomination these people will become so fired up and will vote in such massive numbers, and donate massive amounts of money fighting Trump that I don't see any way he can win. I will support him any way, but it won't be with the conviction that he can win.
I believe DeSantis will be nearly as good as Trump, but I don't think DeSantis will arouse near the hostility and resistance that Trump will.
To steal a colloquialism, "Hell hath no fury like a woke liberal LGBTQXYZ scorned".
For those of you calling for a civil war, let Trump win the Presidency and you will get your wish.
https://days.to/election-day-in-us/2024 (520 days as of June 2, 2023).
First off, this thread is about Vivek Ramaswamy. But you've managed to hijack it with yet another diatribe.
We get it, you hate Trump. Fine, that's your choice. And you have the freedom to support and vote for whoever you please. Knock yourself out.
The rest of your diatribe is right out of the MSM, and is laughable.
If RDS can get the nomination, he will get the same wrath of the radicals that Trump keeps getting. What you fail to understand with the democrat communist now in control it's all about power. They have finally achieved something they have spent decades working for, and in their mind no way in hell are they giving it back.
Run Trump, RDS, or anyone else, and they are all going to get the same treatment by big tech and the MSM. You could run Jesus as a republican and he would be smeared at every turn.
The only reason it hasn't been ratcheted up on RDS yet is his campaign is floundering, so the energy is being directed at the front runner. It's called focus. Saul Alinsky "Rules for Radicals", number 13 "Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it."
Whoever the front runner is will be the target.
The cheating is real. They will not relax on cheating no matter who the front runner is. If anything, they are planning even more aggressive tactics. Again, it's all about power, not who the opposition is running.
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First off, this thread is about Vivek Ramaswamy. But you've managed to hijack it with yet another diatribe.
I put it here by accident. You may move it if you can.
We get it, you hate Trump. Fine, that's your choice. And you have the freedom to support and vote for whoever you please. Knock yourself out.
Only in your imagination do I hate Trump. But I would hate it if a Democrat gets elected because Trump and his backers thought he had a chance.
The rest of your diatribe is right out of the MSM, and is laughable.
The rest of my post is my opinion based on my real life experiences, and what I see in all sorts of blogs, posts and rants (both from the right and from the left). Since you always scoff at people that read opposing points of view, I assume that you do not do that. Therefore, you have no idea what is really going on in the world or what other people are thinking and saying. And that is why the only reason you can come up with for Trump losing is they must be cheating.
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First off, this thread is about Vivek Ramaswamy.
Whelp, I sure got off track. 😁
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Whelp, I sure got off track. 😁
That was my fault. For which I apologize.
But I don't think this is the first instance of thread drift. I sure wish we had moderators here to make sure we post the right things in the right place.
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I put it here by accident. You may move it if you can.
Only in your imagination do I hate Trump. But I would hate it if a Democrat gets elected because Trump and his backers thought he had a chance.
The rest of my post is my opinion based on my real life experiences, and what I see in all sorts of blogs, posts and rants (both from the right and from the left). Since you always scoff at people that read opposing points of view, I assume that you do not do that. Therefore, you have no idea what is really going on in the world or what other people are thinking and saying. And that is why the only reason you can come up with for Trump losing is they must be cheating.
The democrat communist are not going to back off cheating Joe, you're delusional. IF RDS can get the nomination, they will go after him just like Trump. They will start trotting out bimbos right and left, he will be accused of rape, they will concoct scandal after scandal, they will take his sound bites and twist them, etc, etc,.
"Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it." Whats at issue here is who is the target, and that's the biggest threat, the front runner.
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The democrat communist are not going to back off cheating Joe, you're delusional. IF RDS can get the nomination, they will go after him just like Trump. They will start trotting out bimbos right and left, he will be accused of rape, they will concoct scandal after scandal, they will take his sound bites and twist them, etc, etc,.
"Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it." Whats at issue here is who is the target, and that's the biggest threat, the front runner.
I think this.^^^^
Styx now thinks RDS is the Uniparty’s controlled opposition and they’ll usher him in if they have to, anybody but Trump. I think they hate him almost as much. The don’t say gay bill, the anti abortion stuff. Of course they’ll try to keep him out of the White House. He actually IS a conservative for heaven’s sake. Even if he is connected to the Uniparty. The Uniparty would prefer a Dem.
Unless Styx was being sarcastic when he said there will be no honkening if DeSantis is the nominee. He uses sarcasm a lot. Sometimes it’s hard to tell unless you’re paying close attention. I don’t think he was.
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"The nuclear family is the greatest form of governance known to..."
As I understand it, the historical norm in the U.S. was the extended or multigenerational family where three or more generations live together (grandparent(s), parent(s), children) rather than the nuclear family of only parents and children. I believe nuclear families started becoming the norm on account of the industrial revolution so that they began to dominate during the twentieth century. My understanding is that the extended family previously provided more security to both the youngest and oldest members. The advent of alternate means of security - or greater wealth due to advances - for older people allowed them to depart the extended family.
Family governance presumes a lack of agency on the part of young people. Sadly, the treatment of children in a family is used by authoritarians to justify authority of the same sort over adults as if they were children. This is evident in frequent use of the idiom "An adult in the room" by authoritarians. I worry that Vivek may actually think the authoritarianism of the nuclear family is something to be replicated at the state or national level.
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"The nuclear family is the greatest form of governance known to..."
As I understand it, the historical norm in the U.S. was the extended or multigenerational family where three or more generations live together (grandparent(s), parent(s), children) rather than the nuclear family of only parents and children. I believe nuclear families started becoming the norm on account of the industrial revolution so that they began to dominate during the twentieth century. My understanding is that the extended family previously provided more security to both the youngest and oldest members. The advent of alternate means of security - or greater wealth due to advances - for older people allowed them to depart the extended family.
Not that you’re wrong.
Family governance presumes a lack of agency on the part of young people. Sadly, the treatment of children in a family is used by authoritarians to justify authority of the same sort over adults as if they were children. This is evident in frequent use of the idiom "An adult in the room" by authoritarians. I worry that Vivek may actually think the authoritarianism of the nuclear family is something to be replicated at the state or national level.
Could you be overthinking it? Maybe he just means the lack of fathers in their children’s lives which is turning out to be a disaster.
Not that you’re wrong.
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Could you be overthinking it?
Well, yeah. But I have to find some excuse to apply the useless tidbits I've run across over the years.
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Well, yeah. But I have to find some excuse to apply the useless tidbits I've run across over the years.
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Well, yeah. But I have to find some excuse to apply the useless tidbits I've run across over the years.
I can relate.
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1666579538543800320
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Want to make some extra cash......
https://twitter.com/VivekGRamaswamy/status/1678377504350806017
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Vivek is a smart guy. He's making huge inroads on his campaign.
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Vivek is a smart guy. He's making huge inroads on his campaign.
I like him a lot. But he has no chance.
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I like him a lot. But he has no chance.
He's working his way in, but this gives him a spring board for other offices, or a Cabinet position.
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He's working his way in, but this gives him a spring board for other offices, or a Cabinet position.
Yes, and who knows, maybe 2028?
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1679961881979813888
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1679961881979813888
BOOM! That’s the kind of passion I’ve been wanting to see from him. Now I want him to be Trump’s VP pick.
He should have also emphasized the censorship about questioning the 2020 election.
But he is RIGHT. And I know personally he is right because the only thing that kept me from being there on Jan 6 was my poor health. But I seriously considered going anyway and the reason was NOT Trump. It was the buildup of a year of frustration from all the things Vivek said, especially the refusal of the Uniparty to investigate the charges of election fraud. Nothing Trump said incited me to go. I was PISSED at the Federal government for their ramping up the lies, deceit and tyranny.
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(http://www.pilotspin.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6878.0;attach=3579)
Ramaswamy is going at this very smart. He's building his resume, and while he may not get into the game this time around, he has a good future ahead, that is as long as he avoids the establishment.
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Ramaswamy is going at this very smart. He's building his resume, and while he may not get into the game this time around, he has a good future ahead, that is as long as he avoids the establishment.
That is the feeling I get from him while DeSantis is doing the reverse. He started out strong and is going downhill. At this point I’m not sure he hasn’t ruined his chance at 2028 even.
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But but but....what about Scott? What a racist poll....
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That is the feeling I get from him while DeSantis is doing the reverse. He started out strong and is going downhill. At this point I’m not sure he hasn’t ruined his chance at 2028 even.
Sometimes candidates peak in their current situation. I believe this to be the case with RDS.
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AFTER the damage is done, the communist left often pretends.
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Was he really a Democrat as recently as 2016? Is he an enemy plant? Or did he legitimately change? Does Kali not know what she’s talking about? There are lots of examples of lefties who got red pilled. Brandon Straka, Amala Ekpunobi, Roseanne Barr. Russell Brand and Bill Maher seem to be. Tulsi Gabbard, sort of. Trump himself switched from Dem to Rep.
Vivek is saying all the right things but I don’t really trust him yet. That being said if Trump were to die or something I might vote for him because I can’t see who else I’d take over him.
https://twitter.com/KaliFontanilla/status/1695614212410630567
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Interesting take. I’ll go with this for the time being. This being no I won’t assume Vivek is an establishment plant but I will keep an open mind about it.
https://notthebee.com/article/should-we-trust-vivek
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Interesting take. I’ll go with this for the time being. This being no I won’t assume Vivek is an establishment plant but I will keep an open mind about it.
https://notthebee.com/article/should-we-trust-vivek
Interesting and brings up many good points.
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Was he really a Democrat as recently as 2016?
Trump last switched from Democrat to Republican in 2009{*} and began running for president as a Republican in 2015. If he is the reference standard then 6 years since a party switch is allowed. Looks like Vivek at 7 years beats the Trump standard.
As to how both men made their money: Trump wasn't out there doing any actual building, just managing, wheeling and dealing, mostly like Vivek. At least Vivek had some training in the biological sciences.
{*}Though in 2011 he switched to "no party affiliation" before switching back to Republican in 2012.
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Trump last switched from Democrat to Republican in 2009{*} and began running for president as a Republican in 2015. If he is the reference standard then 6 years since a party switch is allowed. Looks like Vivek at 7 years beats the Trump standard.
As to how both men made their money: Trump wasn't out there doing any actual building, just managing, wheeling and dealing, mostly like Vivek. At least Vivek had some training in the biological sciences.
{*}Though in 2011 he switched to "no party affiliation" before switching back to Republican in 2012.
There was a time I was a registered Democrat. I suppose I’d be a hypocrite to hold that past against anyone, although I was never a socialist/communist.
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Ronald Reagan was once a democrat as well.
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Ronald Reagan was once a democrat as well.
So was Jesse Helms.
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Vivek's interview with CNN after the debate.....
https://twitter.com/i/status/1732771663329079393
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1736453257587822834
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I really enjoyed this conversation he had.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1738589132979331434
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https://x.com/DeadThreads01/status/1741545188705603911?s=20
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Donald Jr. and Vivek
https://rumble.com/v47sys5-we-have-a-country-to-save-vivek-ramaswamy-on-doing-whats-right-for-america-.html
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https://x.com/VivekGRamaswamy/status/1750699872997855467?s=20 (https://x.com/VivekGRamaswamy/status/1750699872997855467?s=20)
Interesting viewpoint by Vivek
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Vivek says Vote Trump
https://twitter.com/i/status/1756522985224015896