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20176
Spin Zone / Re: Hawkeye Caucuses
« on: February 02, 2016, 04:13:01 PM »
You mean when Cruz sent a CNN story to his volunteers?  That campaign fraud?

I'll save you the trouble, I already know you'll discredit the source, but do a little reading, it's out there in several news outlets.

http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/ted-cruzs-iowa-mailers-are-more-fraudulent-than-everyone-thinks

After seeing the mailers, Iowa’s secretary of state, Paul Pate, issued a statement condemning Cruz’s tactic:

“Today I was shown a piece of literature from the Cruz for President campaign that misrepresents the role of my office, and worse, misrepresents Iowa election law. Accusing citizens of Iowa of a “voting violation” based on Iowa Caucus participation, or lack thereof, is false representation of an official act. There is no such thing as an election violation related to frequency of voting. Any insinuation or statement to the contrary is wrong and I believe it is not in keeping in the spirit of the Iowa Caucuses.
Additionally, the Iowa Secretary of State’s Office never “grades” voters. Nor does the Secretary of State maintain records related to Iowa Caucus participation. Caucuses are organized and directed by the state political parties, not the Secretary of State, nor local elections officials. Also, the Iowa Secretary of State does not “distribute” voter records. They are available for purchase for political purposes only, under Iowa Code.”


20177
Spin Zone / Re: Hawkeye Caucuses
« on: February 02, 2016, 01:39:12 PM »

His explanation is more credible than Trumps claims of conservatism.

Cruz commits campaign fraud and that's the best you can come up with?

20178
Spin Zone / Re: Hawkeye Caucuses
« on: February 02, 2016, 01:12:14 PM »
Cruz tactics in Iowa are despicable as now being related, inexcusable and disqualifying in my mind.

'Gimp

But...but...but he's a pure conservative.   Just can't be true!

20179
Spin Zone / Re: Hawkeye Caucuses
« on: February 02, 2016, 07:53:08 AM »
For all the hype surrounding Iowa, in reality it doesn't mean much. History has proven that time and again. The real race happens Super Tuesday, and by then we'll have a better idea of the actual players.

20181
Spin Zone / Re: Question for the Trumpkins?
« on: February 01, 2016, 05:14:47 PM »
You haven't been around here long, have you?  Are you expecting me to respond re: Obama?  Nice try.

So you haven't heard Trump speak about the Constitution or limited government either, correct?

I've heard every promise and every lie from everyone in this race.  In reality the only one being anywhere near truthful is Bernie Sanders.  He makes no bones about who he is and what he stands for.

20182
Spin Zone / Re: Question for the Trumpkins?
« on: February 01, 2016, 05:06:48 PM »
That is the depth of Trump's rhetoric.  I've watched every debate this year, and never heard him use the words "Constitution" or "limited government."  It's very disappointing.

Yet Obama speaks often of the Constitution and limited government (his version).  Must send thrills up your leg......

20183
Rusty & Student Pilots / Re: If the FAA doesn't care how...
« on: February 01, 2016, 01:50:32 PM »
Holds are easy.  Reminds me of the bitching people use to do about NDB approaches.

20184
Spin Zone / Re: Question for the Trumpkins?
« on: February 01, 2016, 09:59:01 AM »
Jeff I have been holding off for a while but you still have not acknowledged that this is a strawman argument. 

As far as I can recall, nobody here, before your question, was calling Trump a true conservative - I know I haven't.

As for people saying one thing when campaigning and doing another if/when elected show me one person who has not 'matured' a position - not Cruz, not Rubio, not any of them.

None of them are ideologically pure or truly principled from a Conservatism standpoint, not one.

I get it, you don't like Trump, the petty name calling (Trumpkins), the endless links to anti-Trump stuff - OK.

I just wish that those of us on the Right would spend more time formulating a strategy of exposing and defeating the failures of the Left rather than forming a circular firing squad to torpedo the top two candidates on our own freaking side. 

Imagine if we spent even half the energy currently being invested in bashing Trump or Cruz on educating the middle and left-of-center voters on who is actually responsible for their suffering and powerfully and positively espousing conservative ideals (no matter how recently acquired).

I think people still totally fail to understand the Trump approach and continue to try and use conventional campaign thinking an conventional campaign tactics on a clearly asymmetric campaign - like sending an Aircraft Carrier after 6 Somali pirates in a dinghy with a 40hp Evinrude.

And as a reminder, I am not a Trump supporter, not supporting his campaign with dollars or time - I am only voting 'FOR' this time, voting against is a waste and keeps the elites in power.  If they can't produce a candidate and campaign I want to vote for I am not voting.  I could vote for Trump if he is the candidate, but that is a ways off yet.

'Gimp


 Very well written!

20185
Spin Zone / Re: Question for the Trumpkins?
« on: February 01, 2016, 09:53:48 AM »

After 7 years of an extreme narcissistic in the White House, you want to put another one in.

 I never said that.  I'm making observations based upon what I read and see.

20186
Spin Zone / Re: Question for the Trumpkins?
« on: February 01, 2016, 09:52:33 AM »
Our resident Trumpkin is long on deflection and character assassination, short on actual answers to questions.

And you twist what others have wrote to make your point.

BTW, not a "Trumpkin" as you put it, just an observer of the process in action.

20187
Spin Zone / Re: Question for the Trumpkins?
« on: February 01, 2016, 09:49:23 AM »

Ahhh...so when Bob Dole (about as establishment as it gets) supports him as "someone we can deal with" that's just them not knowing anything, it's not that they understand that Trump has no actual principles that will hold him to any position, so he'll be free to cut a deal.


The establishment dislikes Trump, but know they can deal with him.  They fear Cruz, because they know he actually has principles, something Trump is wholly unencumbered by.

 Cruz's main problems are 1) he's disliked in the Senate and 2) he is so far Right he is the equivalent of Bernie just 180 degrees the other way.

 After 7 years of an extremist in the oval office, the public is sick and tired.  The voter anger is at all time highs.  People are sick and tired of a weak dick Republican led Congress and Senate that constantly caves in to the left.  They are sick and tired of "political correctness" that basically has the career politicians having to watch each and every word they utter.  They are sick and tired of the extremist wanting reparations for every fucking perceived wrong that has (or has not) happened in the last 3 centuries.  They are sick and tired of watching our borders thrown wide open inviting everyone to cross without fear and then move to "sanctuary cities" and immediately get on public assistance.

 And the list goes on and on.

Yes, the DNC wants desperately for a Bush, Rubio or Cruz nomination because they know the Clinton machine will wipe them out. That's why I laugh every time someone utters "unelectable" in reference to a republican candidate because it comes straight from Debbie Wasserman Schults lips.

20188
Spin Zone / Re: Question for the Trumpkins?
« on: February 01, 2016, 09:14:39 AM »

Have you been watching the news?  The Republican establishment is all-in for Trump now.  He's cut his deal with them already.  His whole campaign is about him being able to cut deals.

 Yes, I watch the news, and read quite a bit.  The elites are still trying to figure out how to undermine Trump. Read the latest Weekly Review?

Even if he clears the delegate count at the convention they will still try to circumvent him. In their world they, and only they will decide who the rightful candidate is.

20189
Spin Zone / Re: Question for the Trumpkins?
« on: February 01, 2016, 09:01:06 AM »
So...I, as a non-voter, am required to maintain the same standards as a candidate for the Presidency of the United States?  Interesting...



Actually, I think it's more of you "can't" not that you "choose" not to.  I'm not asking for a demonstration of conservative purity here, I'm asking for one single example of him advocating for a conservative policy, from someone who wishes to represent the conservative party.  I think that's just about the absolute bare minimum.

Conservative purity=litmus test.   Using this none of the candidates will pass.

 I want someone who can think outside the box and is not beholden to a bunch of party elites who cut backroom deals.  Look at the current leadership in Congress and the Senate, they would rather support the elites as to represent the people.

 Trump scares a lot of people, especially those in the elites (both sides) because they know he will not fear them and they cannot buy him off to do their bidding. Maybe it's time to have a real CEO in charge that isn't afraid to call bullshit when he sees it.

 

20190
Spin Zone / Re: Question for the Trumpkins?
« on: February 01, 2016, 08:43:26 AM »

I identify as having libertarian leaning principles.  On the political spectrum, I am kind of conservatarian.


That said, I belong to no political party.

 So you lambaste a candidate for basically doing the same thing you are doing?




And if you recall, the first post in this thread posed a question which you didn't answer either:

Because I choose not to answer it.  I don't "litmus test" candidates, nor do I proclaim they have to meet certain standards from birth.  I look at the individual and decide if they can do the job or not.

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