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Pilot Zone => Pilot Zone => Topic started by: acrogimp on April 15, 2018, 04:07:57 PM

Title: Prop Seal Failure
Post by: acrogimp on April 15, 2018, 04:07:57 PM
I was leading a 3-ship formation aerobatic flight yesterday, we had been out for about 45 minutes, when I noted a prop surge on the downline of a Quarter-Clover Down figure.  We were about 3/4 mile offshore and about 15 miles over the ground away from our home airport.

I reported the surge to my wingmen and called knock-it-off and turned towards the coast.  I gave the lead to one of my wingmen so I could focus on flying/troubleshooting and have him navigate us under the Class B and back to our home field.  I noted that CHT's were on the low end of the green arc and I know that my engine does not like to be on either end of the green arc and suspected this was my issue.

1/3 of the way back I started to get oil on the windscreen, a light film in the beginning but quickly it went fully opaque, I told Lead I need a straight in and Tower was helpful.  I was now getting a little smoke in the cockpit, clearly heated/burning oil.

I made it to short final, rolled wings level and set it down, got off the runway and taxied back to hangar and shutdown uneventfully.

Watching the cockpit cam, it was 11.5 minutes from the prop surge to shutdown outside my hangar.  The oil on the windscreen appeared 3 minutes after the prop surge - and in 8 minutes approximately 10 of a total of 12 quarts of oil was lost overboard.

The after action report is that while we did most things right I made a few critical errors too - we had an alternate airport available that is a pain to get in and out of (controllers are not helpful) but it would have put me on the ground fully 3 minutes earlier.

Standard practice for formations is the distressed aircraft is lead so that the wingmen can provide support as needed, including nav or comms; had we followed this one or both wingmen would have noticed the oil on the plane and we would have figured out how substantial the leak was - I did not know how bad it was until I pulled of the runway and saw the wings.

I was focused on the low CHT and never really focused on Oil Temp/Px, even after the oil on the windscreen.  I believe this is because they were normal, through shutdown as it turns out, but I did not really focus on them.

After I had the smoke/smell in the cockpit and I had the airport in sight I descended from 2,000' towards TPA of 1,600' - although I was still nearly 3 miles out - we don't glide well in the Yaks and I am the most vocal proponent of altitude when in the pattern - I suspect it was because I really wanted to get the plane on the ground but I gave up some of the altitude I had which equates to time/options.

Mechanic and I will tear prop hub open tomorrow and see what we find - there was no overtemp, and Oil Temp and Px were normal through the entire flight, CHT never overtemped so we believe the engine is fine.

'Gimp
Title: Re: Prop Seal Failure
Post by: Jaybird180 on April 16, 2018, 10:47:20 AM
Hope the damage is limited. Glad you followed the most important rule of getting back on the ground first.
Title: Re: Prop Seal Failure
Post by: nddons on April 16, 2018, 11:06:02 AM
Gimp, great post and response to the emergency.  I have a couple of questions:

How did you know it was a prop seal - by where it was leaking when you did your post-flight? 

Did you consider using the E word, or at least Pan Pan, in order to communicate with anyone?  Did your wingman declare anything on your behalf? 

Did you squawk 7700?

Did you catch it on video?  Could be a great presentation to EAA, Red Star, or CAF units.

Well done.
Title: Re: Prop Seal Failure
Post by: Anthony on April 16, 2018, 06:19:14 PM
Damn, that sucks.  Nice work Gimp.  Glad you got down OK. 

You guys, and your constant speed props.  :)
Title: Re: Prop Seal Failure
Post by: acrogimp on April 16, 2018, 10:57:15 PM
So here is the seal, 2.5" failure, suspect a manufacturing defect - but there was also some fretting/gouging in the dome bore 180 degrees opposite the tear/failure that had lightly chewed into the outer edge of the seal on that side, also roughly 2.5" across - after 6 hours of operation.

Mechanic said this failure was more substantial than the previous one which makes sense, the last failure was a slow drip where this was a Texas oil field gusher when it let go.

We are going to swap out a spare piston and dome from his project with new seals and see how things behave - will ask vendor to warranty the seal, since the failure looked like it could have been a defect.

Mechanic may try to mic the bore and see if it is out of round.

Not sure what drove that contact or how it happened, could be the seal doubled up when it failed and pushed the piston offcenter on the opposite side, but it was pretty substantial - no wear noticed on the oil delivery tube that the piston rides on so kind of confused.  My mechanic is going to swing by our area Russian mechanic and see if he has any thoughts/has seen anything like it.

'Gimp

Edited to add aftermath pics from Saturday
Title: Re: Prop Seal Failure
Post by: acrogimp on April 17, 2018, 07:18:48 AM
Gimp, great post and response to the emergency.  I have a couple of questions:

How did you know it was a prop seal - by where it was leaking when you did your post-flight? 

Did you consider using the E word, or at least Pan Pan, in order to communicate with anyone?  Did your wingman declare anything on your behalf? 

Did you squawk 7700?

Did you catch it on video?  Could be a great presentation to EAA, Red Star, or CAF units.

Well done.
Stan, suspected the prop seal since it was recently replaced and on postflight inspection it was clear the oil was coming out of the hub and being slung by the prop based on where it was deposited on the wing and vertical tail.

I did not feel like it was serious enough to consider declaring until the last 2-3 minutes and by that time I was on approach - my wingman who was leading informed tower that I needed to get in expeditiously, fortunately traffic was low for a Saturday and I was able to just drive in.

In formation only the lead aircraft is squawking but 7700 was never in my mind.

I have cockpit video but my audio cable disconnected from my headmounted GoPro early in the flight so no comms, I'd be really interested in hearing that.

In hindsight I really made a couple bad decisions at critical phases - passed up an alternate airport (before it was obvious how critical the situation was), if we had declared I could gotten a clearance through the Bravo and made a straight in on the crosswind runway at our airport, either option (other airport/our crosswind runway) would have had me on the ground 2-3 minutes earlier but again, the critical nature of the situation wasn't obvious until the last 5-7 minutes of the flight and by that time I was over heavily populated unfriendly terrain with only a golf course and a highway as an out.

Basic airmanship was fine, support from the wingman was pretty good although we have a lot of discipline when on ATC frequencies so I had to be pretty directive that I was not up for an overhead and needed a straight in, I also made a call when I started getting oil smoke in the cockpit - in terms of ADM the decision for immediate RTB is the saving grace, the rest is a series of learning opportunities that we will rotate into our training/briefing process.

My survival/the planes survival was really only possible because I called the knock-it-off and RTB on the initial prop surge - had we pressed for even one more sequence the engine would have seized well short of the airport since each sequence takes about 4 minutes.

It's pretty sobering alltogether.

'Gimp
Title: Re: Prop Seal Failure
Post by: Anthony on April 17, 2018, 07:49:52 AM
My survival/the planes survival was really only possible because I called the knock-it-off and RTB on the initial prop surge - had we pressed for even one more sequence the engine would have seized well short of the airport since each sequence takes about 4 minutes.

It's pretty sobering alltogether.

'Gimp

My palms got sweaty just reading that.  Damn, that was a bit to close for comfort.  Again, nice job. 
Title: Re: Prop Seal Failure
Post by: Jaybird180 on April 17, 2018, 11:22:36 AM
In hindsight I really made a couple bad decisions at critical phases - passed up an alternate airport (before it was obvious how critical the situation was), if we had declared I could gotten a clearance through the Bravo and made a straight in on the crosswind runway at our airport, either option (other airport/our crosswind runway) would have had me on the ground 2-3 minutes earlier but again, the critical nature of the situation wasn't obvious until the last 5-7 minutes of the flight and by that time I was over heavily populated unfriendly terrain with only a golf course and a highway as an out.
'Gimp
Were the natives cannibals?
Title: Re: Prop Seal Failure
Post by: Anthony on April 17, 2018, 12:18:36 PM
Were the natives cannibals?

It's Occupied Communist territory.  (Democrats)
Title: Re: Prop Seal Failure
Post by: Little Joe on April 17, 2018, 12:42:18 PM
I was over heavily populated unfriendly terrain with only a golf course and a highway as an out.
'Gimp
I know what you mean.  Those golfers can get damn unfriendly when you interrupt them during a drive or putt.