PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Lucifer on August 13, 2016, 05:06:29 AM
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http://thefederalist.com/2016/08/12/6-problems-with-medias-hysterical-reaction-to-trumps-isis-comments/
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It's kind of nauseating to read the Trump apologists. Trump is a master at yanking the media's chain. Say something really stupid and suddenly the news is all about him from every side and everybody is talking about him. The problem with this strategy is, it's getting old and formulaic. It's really not going to help him in November.
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It's kind of nauseating to read the Trump apologists. Trump is a master at yanking the media's chain. Say something really stupid and suddenly the news is all about him from every side and everybody is talking about him. The problem with this strategy is, it's getting old and formulaic. It's really not going to help him in November.
Yea, heaven forbid anyone in the media offer an opposing view to the liberal narrative.
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It's kind of nauseating to read the Trump apologists. Trump is a master at yanking the media's chain. Say something really stupid and suddenly the news is all about him from every side and everybody is talking about him. The problem with this strategy is, it's getting old and formulaic. It's really not going to help him in November.
So do you really think that Trump meant that Obama and Hillary called a meeting and sat down with a bunch of Islamic radicals and drew up the plans for ISIS? That is the way the media is trying to portray it. At the same time,they are giving Hillary a pass on every lie she has told. At what point does that get nauseating to you?
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So do you really think that Trump meant that Obama and Hillary called a meeting and sat down with a bunch of Islamic radicals and drew up the plans for ISIS? That is the way the media is trying to portray it.
Hardly. Trump just found out what ISIS was earlier this year. Trump says stupid things to shock people and get free air time. To direct attention to him. What is nauseating is that it works so well and that there are all these lame Trump supporters who have to try to explain to the world what Trump really meant when he said X, Y and Z. To Trump the presidency is just a reality TV show with him as the star. I am shocked and dismayed by the number of people that actually think Trump would be a good president.
At the same time,they are giving Hillary a pass on every lie she has told. At what point does that get nauseating to you?
All the time, but I guess at some point the media doesn't give her a pass because somehow you know that she is telling lies. How do you know that? My guess is the media told you. Everybody, including nearly all Democrats know that Hillary lies and is self serving, but Donald Trump is all that and more. He's a disgrace and a disgusting human being.
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What is nauseating is that it works so well and that there are all these lame Trump supporters who have to try to explain to the world what Trump really meant when he said X, Y and Z. To Trump the presidency is just a reality TV show with him as the star. I am shocked and dismayed by the number of people that actually think Trump would be a good president.
Perhaps that is because the MSM does such a good job of distorting what he says, and people are all too ready to believe them. And yes, he does play them like a fiddle, because they are so eager to jump in and misinterpret anything he says. It is like using a laser pointer to entertain a cat.
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Perhaps that is because the MSM does such a good job of distorting what he says, and people are all too ready to believe them. And yes, he does play them like a fiddle, because they are so eager to jump in and misinterpret anything he says. It is like using a laser pointer to entertain a cat.
Sensationalize it? Yes! Distort it? No! The media -- mainstream/old line and newfangled -- all want you to read/see what they offer. That is how they make money. Everyone tarts it up to a degree. Most everything Trump says is taped, so there is little that can be distorted as the proof is there for all to see.
I this case, Trump was even given a chance and suggestion by the host that he walk it back a bit, and he doubled down. It is not that anyone thinks he actually believes it. That is not the worrisome part. The worrisome part is that he runs his mouth with his brain in neutral. Then to top it off, when caught out he can't admit that he may have misspoken, so he doubles down on whatever stupid thing he said.
The sad truth is that a lying, self-serving, probably corrupt politician like Hillary is a better choice the Trump. Sadly, the best candidate on the ballot will not win, but I am still voting for him.
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For all those Donald supporters. Is there a Rosetta stone or magic decoder ring that would allow us to figure out when the Donald is just using bluster, opinion, sarcasm, or just otherwise joking? How to we tell what he truly believes? There have been so many contradictions, deflections and walk-backs that it gets pretty confusing to sort this out.
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For all those Donald supporters. Is there a Rosetta stone or magic decoder ring that would allow us to figure out when the Donald is just using bluster, opinion, sarcasm, or just otherwise joking? How to we tell what he truly believes? There have been so many contradictions, deflections and walk-backs that it gets pretty confusing to sort this out.
You can start by ignoring 90% of the talking heads.
Did you really need a decoder ring to believe he literally meant that Obama founded ISIS? Are you so jaded that you can't see that Trump actually had a valid point; that Obama's and Hillary's actions and policies made ISIS inevitable?
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You can start by ignoring 90% of the talking heads.
Good advice! ;)
Did you really need a decoder ring to believe he literally meant that Obama founded ISIS? Are you so jaded that you can't see that Trump actually had a valid point; that Obama's and Hillary's actions and policies made ISIS inevitable?
Personally, no. The seeds for the "founding" of ISIS (or a similar organization) started quite a while ago. I believe it was indeed inevitable no matter who was President or Secretary of State. There are so many problems in that region, to lay blame on a single person or Administration is ridiculous and indicates a lack of knowledge of history, demographics and politics.
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Sensationalize it? Yes! Distort it? No! The media -- mainstream/old line and newfangled -- all want you to read/see what they offer. That is how they make money. Everyone tarts it up to a degree. Most everything Trump says is taped, so there is little that can be distorted as the proof is there for all to see.
I this case, Trump was even given a chance and suggestion by the host that he walk it back a bit, and he doubled down. It is not that anyone thinks he actually believes it. That is not the worrisome part. The worrisome part is that he runs his mouth with his brain in neutral. Then to top it off, when caught out he can't admit that he may have misspoken, so he doubles down on whatever stupid thing he said.
The sad truth is that a lying, self-serving, probably corrupt politician like Hillary is a better choice the Trump. Sadly, the best candidate on the ballot will not win, but I am still voting for him.
If you were going to hire a manager to take care of your family's finances and security, would you rather have an accomplished loudmouth or a thief?
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Good advice! ;)
Personally, no. The seeds for the "founding" of ISIS (or a similar organization) started quite a while ago. I believe it was indeed inevitable no matter who was President or Secretary of State. There are so many problems in that region, to lay blame on a single person or Administration is ridiculous and indicates a lack of knowledge of history, demographics and politics.
It was OK when Obama blamed GWB for everything...
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It was OK when Obama blamed GWB for everything...
See quote from Little Joe above:
"You can start by ignoring 90% of the talking heads."
Lots less blame thrown around if you follow his advice.
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Sensationalize it? Yes! Distort it? No! The media -- mainstream/old line and newfangled -- all want you to read/see what they offer. That is how they make money. Everyone tarts it up to a degree. Most everything Trump says is taped, so there is little that can be distorted as the proof is there for all to see.
What you're forgetting is that many people don't bother to read or analyze what is being said or to look up full comments. Instead, they watch the soundbites the news plays and believe that.
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You can start by ignoring 90% of the talking heads.
Did you really need a decoder ring to believe he literally meant that Obama founded ISIS? Are you so jaded that you can't see that Trump actually had a valid point; that Obama's and Hillary's actions and policies made ISIS inevitable?
The decoder ring would help because the foundation of ISIS was Al Qaeda in Iraq which dates back before Obama took office and it had already stated the aim of creating a caliphate under Bush's watch. So in fact, if Obama and Clinton are responsible, it happened while they were Senators, which might be tough to explain.
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If you were going to hire a manager to take care of your family's finances and security, would you rather have an accomplished loudmouth or a thief?
Six of one, half a dozen of the other since this loudmouth also chisels his contractors and swindles hopeful and desperate people.
But we are not talking about my house. We are talking about an economy and a complicated world filled with guns and bombs.
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It was OK when Obama blamed GWB for everything...
As Colin Powell was reported to say to Bush on the subject of invading Iraq: "You break it and you own it."
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Six of one, half a dozen of the other since this loudmouth also chisels his contractors and swindles hopeful and desperate people.
Cites?
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As of today, if Trump were to lose he will still have provided two amazing gifts to the people of the United States, first and foremost is to have been brutally effective in unmasking the media as utterly biased fellow-travellers who have been shaping the information people use to make decisions - this will help us make better decisions going forward I trust - and I expect he is only just getting started on this.
Second, is to unmask the establishment of the Republican party as feckless and power-obsessed who are more committed to their own personal connections and power than to the principles the party was founded on (not saying that Trump is the perfect embodiment of those principles by the way, but also not accepting the butthurt neverTrump jihadi 'Dem in disguise' BS that is simply without any historical basis).
These two things alone are great developments IMO, but he does need to win in order to prevent Hillary from radically reshaping the future of the nation with what we know she will do (as opposed to what some suspect Trump might do).
'Gimp
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As of today, if Trump were to lose he will still have provided two amazing gifts to the people of the United States, first and foremost is to have been brutally effective in unmasking the media as utterly biased fellow-travellers who have been shaping the information people use to make decisions - this will help us make better decisions going forward I trust - and I expect he is only just getting started on this.
It proves no such thing other than to those who were already true believers.
Second, is to unmask the establishment of the Republican party as feckless and power-obsessed who are more committed to their own personal connections and power than to the principles the party was founded on (not saying that Trump is the perfect embodiment of those principles by the way, but also not accepting the butthurt neverTrump jihadi 'Dem in disguise' BS that is simply without any historical basis).
That I can mostly buy. The establishment of both parties are about their power, and not the principles that founded this country.
These two things alone are great developments IMO, but he does need to win in order to prevent Hillary from radically reshaping the future of the nation with what we know she will do (as opposed to what some suspect Trump might do).
Unfortunately the change is coming and it is the conservative wing of the GOP that will be responsible for it. Their unwillingness to compromise on a set of policies focused on small government and fiscal restraint and give way on some of the social issues has led to a candidate who can't beat Hillary and may well cost the GOP the Senate. If that latter happens, the SCOTUS will be hard left for the rest of my life.
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Cites?
A). Bankruptcies
B). Trump University
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A). Bankruptcies
B). Trump University
A) Bankruptcies are a fact of business life, especially in construction. Nothing special re Trump.
B) Sometimes things don't go the way you want them to. No proof whatsoever that the intention was to defraud anyone.
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A) Bankruptcies are a fact of business life, especially in construction. Nothing special re Trump.
B) Sometimes things don't go the way you want them to. No proof whatsoever that the intention was to defraud anyone.
Some seem to take a different view of Mr. Trump.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/06/10/dozens-lawsuits-accuse-trump-not-paying-his-bills-reports-claim.html
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A) Bankruptcies are a fact of business life, especially in construction. Nothing special re Trump.
B) Sometimes things don't go the way you want them to. No proof whatsoever that the intention was to defraud anyone.
Not all real estate developers are equal. What is a common thread is an incredible lack of positive cash flow. That leads to paying creditors with borrowed money, whether from a bank, or from other creditors. And that leads to a greater incidence of bankruptcies than other industries.
As for Trump U, I think you are greatly mistaken.
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It is so perfectly telling that the progressive press obsess about everything and anything Donald Trump says, does, or doesn't say and do, but give the corrupt doormat a pass no matter how egregious her, or her campaign's behavior.
The sheer hypocrisy is so massive that discussing any of the supposed 'news' articles about Trump is pathetic and silly.
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A). Bankruptcies
B). Trump University
How long would that list be if you were talking about Hillary? (without the anti-Trump agenda.)
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How long would that list be if you were talking about Hillary? (without the anti-Trump agenda.)
It's miles longer, with our without an anti-Trump agenda.
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If Hillary wins and gets to pack the SC, it will,make her unstoppable sine Reid was able to pack the D.C. Court. The easiest thing to kill off will A1 and it's all downhill from there.
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Some seem to take a different view of Mr. Trump.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/06/10/dozens-lawsuits-accuse-trump-not-paying-his-bills-reports-claim.html
And some people are suing Hillary. What is your point? Is is that practically nobody disagrees that she is a lying crook?
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And some people are suing Hillary. What is your point? Is is that practically nobody disagrees that she is a lying crook?
My point is that there is not much to choose between the two of them when it comes to integrity.
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My point is that there is not much to choose between the two of them when it comes to integrity.
There is no difference between my Bonanza and a 747 either. They both fly.