PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Jim Logajan on March 03, 2023, 12:00:47 PM
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A proposed bill in Florida states:
"If a blogger posts to a blog about an elected state officer and receives, or will receive, compensation for that post, the blogger must register with the appropriate office, as identified in paragraph (1)(f), within 5 days after the first post by the blogger which mentions an elected state officer."
Full text of the proposed law, which begins on page 5: https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2023/1316/BillText/Filed/PDF (https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2023/1316/BillText/Filed/PDF)
Guess who proposed it?
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What is the purpose?
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I scanned through this, and I have no idea why they are doing what they are doing. They exclude newspapers from this law. It only applies to bloggers who get paid. I guess if bloggers declare themselves to be newspapers it doesn't apply. I don't see the point of the law other than to restrict free speech.
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They’re claiming that the bloggers are acting like “paid lobbyists” for a political agenda and when they blog falsehoods this law will make it easier to identify the funding source and prosecute for defamation.
It is very sloppily written and won’t pass a court challenge in my opinion. It’s unconstitutional against the first amendment in an analogous way registering a firearm is unconstitutional against the second. On the other hand this isn’t speech in the sense of putting out one’s opinion; it is bought and paid for hit pieces against the right. So I sympathize with the desire to go after them, however, this kind of law can be turned against you when the other side is in power.
The DeSantis administration and his buddies are treading a bit too close to the line on the First Amendment here.
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What is the purpose?
You would have to ask Republican State senator Jason Brodeur who introduced it. Unlikely to advance or gain support. In the mean time opponents of Republicans are using it to smear all Republicans as anti-free speech. I came across it on Yahoo news, which has a big left-wing bias.
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The anti free speech phenomena we are experiencing is not republican or democrat, it's the UniParty aka "the establishment".
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The anti free speech phenomena we are experiencing is not republican or democrat, it's the UniParty aka "the establishment".
I want to know if DeSantis supports it.
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A LOT of dark money flows to political hit men who pretend to be actual journalists but only print what their masters tell them to print.
china thru it’s many and varied tentacles controls a bunch of them.
Many folks talk about getting dark money out of campaigns but then get all pissy when someone tries.
Typical low-information people going off half-cocked, or vagina-ed as the case may be.
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You would have to ask Republican State senator Jason Brodeur who introduced it. Unlikely to advance or gain support. In the mean time opponents of Republicans are using it to smear all Republicans as anti-free speech. I came across it on Yahoo news, which has a big left-wing bias.
Sometimes Republicans are their own worst enemies. Anyone could foresee that happening from the very biased media.
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N7 is right about the dark money. But I don’t think this law will solve that problem. They’ll simply hide the money without reporting it. And in the meantime normal bloggers who aren’t getting dark money, but simply making ad money or patreon money, will be forced into a lot of miserable bureaucratic nonsense while putting themselves into a government database that could potentially be weaponized for political witch hunts, if not by the right then by the left in the future should the shoe be put on the other foot. Similar to how Bush’s Patriot Act (Bush was a Republican) was turned against Republicans less than two decades later.
Note this law doesn’t specify the content, so it will affect bloggers portraying the official in either negative or positive light, meaning it will sweep up friendlies as well as enemies. It will create a database of everyone who mentions “Ron DeSantis” for example. Suppose it’s now used by a leftie staffer, or hacked, to intimidate pro-DeSantis bloggers. Or simply to identify them so their blog can be cyber attacked and shut down, say, before the 2024 election if DeSantis runs.
I’m deeply cautious about any effort to create more mandated government databases of us, no matter the good intentions.
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False information has always been with us. From the "yellow journalism" of the 1800s, to the handbills handed out before that, to the Roman town square, all the way back to cave paintings. Social media and bloggers are just the latest iteration. But where before it was spread by word of mouth, now it's a self-amplifying divergent oscillation from people who don't care to do their own critical reading. Which unfortunately is most of the population these days. Efforts to censor and suppress "false" information will ultimately fail as other technologies spring up and people get around the laws. Just like blogs and social media emerged as a counter to the MSM. Blogs and social media is now just as corrupt.
A well educated and critical thinking population is the best defense against false information. But unfortunately that's gone down the toilet. I weep for the future of humanity.
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Note this law doesn’t specify the content, so it will affect bloggers portraying the official in either negative or positive light, meaning it will sweep up friendlies as well as enemies.
It could also be applicable to bloggers in other states or countries.
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It could also be applicable to bloggers in other states or countries.
Oh no, there is nothing limiting the blogger to the state of Florida. If I’m sitting in Texas and blog about one of Florida’s elected state officers and make any money at all, I have to file their reports or I guess Florida will fine me and ultimately attempt to collect the accumulated fines. Can one state do that to someone in another state?
Steve Lehto is trolling the hell out of them. He’s begging them to come after him. Ba hahahaha!
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This is dumb. And unconstitutional. I'm loving what Florida has been doing lately, but if I was a blogger I would tell this guy to suck my balls and see you in court.
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Remember, the reporting on this is just a tad biased.
Even Fox. Almost every account I have read is twisted and spun out of shape.
I read articles that said “Florida’s new law”. It isn’t even close to a law.
And I read that it said the new law protects DeSantis from criticism. It doesn’t even mention DeSantis. It mentions elected officials.
And rarely did I read about any Republicans speaking out against it, even though many have.
This is just liberal propaganda. But yes, the Republican that proposed this is an idiot. Do all of you think that means all republicans in Florida are idiots, including DeSantis?
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This is dumb. And unconstitutional. I'm loving what Florida has been doing lately, but if I was a blogger I would tell this guy to suck my balls and see you in court.
You would tell him to see you in Court for PROPOSING a bill?
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Remember, the reporting on this is just a tad biased.
Even Fox. Almost every account I have read is twisted and spun out of shape.
I read articles that said “Florida’s new law”. It isn’t even close to a law.
And I read that it said the new law protects DeSantis from criticism. It doesn’t even mention DeSantis. It mentions elected officials.
And rarely did I read about any Republicans speaking out against it, even though many have.
This is just liberal propaganda. But yes, the Republican that proposed this is an idiot. Do all of you think that means all republicans in Florida are idiots, including DeSantis?
Thank you. I haven’t chimed in because I was trying to do my own research. Everything - 100% of it - is noise, almost as if the Left Wing Media wanted to try to take down the most viable candidate who could challenge Trump. As Rush said, I’m anxious to hear what DeSantis says about the bill, but when the articles call it the “Don’t Say Blog” bill, you know the rest of the article is bullshit.
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Thank you. I haven’t chimed in because I was trying to do my own research. Everything - 100% of it - is noise, almost as if the Left Wing Media wanted to try to take down the most viable candidate who could challenge Trump. As Rush said, I’m anxious to hear what DeSantis says about the bill, but when the articles call it the “Don’t Say Blog” bill, you know the rest of the article is bullshit.
It's just a sample of what we are going to see thrown against DeSantis. And even people here are willing to buy into it. Wow!
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I have emailed the office of Governor DeSantis asking his position on this.
I'll let you know if or what I receive back.
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You would tell him to see you in Court for PROPOSING a bill?
If it actually passed and I was a blogger, yes. But I'm pretty sure it won't even make it beyond this idiot's desk.
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I want to know if DeSantis supports it.
He does not support it:
https://reason.com/2023/03/08/ron-desantis-disavows-bill-that-would-require-political-bloggers-to-register-with-the-government/ (https://reason.com/2023/03/08/ron-desantis-disavows-bill-that-would-require-political-bloggers-to-register-with-the-government/)
"Every person in the legislature can file bills, right?" said DeSantis during a Tuesday press conference. "I see these people filing bills and there's articles with my face on the article saying that 'oh, bloggers are going to have to register [with] the state,' and it's attributing it to me. And I'm like, okay, that's not anything I've ever supported, I don't support [it]."