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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Lucifer on February 08, 2019, 12:04:29 PM

Title: Mayoral task force recommends paying struggling Chicagoans $1,000 a month
Post by: Lucifer on February 08, 2019, 12:04:29 PM
https://abc7chicago.com/5127392/
Title: Re: Mayoral task force recommends paying struggling Chicagoans $1,000 a month
Post by: Little Joe on February 08, 2019, 12:40:08 PM
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The money would come from a mix of city funds and charity.

Charity?  Fine.  I have no problem with that.
City Funds?  Sure glad it's not my city.
Title: Re: Mayoral task force recommends paying struggling Chicagoans $1,000 a month
Post by: Little Joe on February 08, 2019, 12:42:48 PM
I actually hope Chicago does this.  It can be a good demonstration without fucking up the whole country.  If it works, then expand the program to other cities and states.

If it fails, as it surely will, then we can say "told you so" and stop proposing such inane policies.  But if/when it fails, I will be adamantly opposed to the rest of the country bailing them out.
Title: Re: Mayoral task force recommends paying struggling Chicagoans $1,000 a month
Post by: Lucifer on February 08, 2019, 12:53:08 PM
I actually hope Chicago does this.  It can be a good demonstration without fucking up the whole country.  If it works, then expand the program to other cities and states.

If it fails, as it surely will, then we can say "told you so" and stop proposing such inane policies.  But if/when it fails, I will be adamantly opposed to the rest of the country bailing them out.

 In the true liberal fashion, it will be a disaster.  And they will blame republicans, conservatives.....and TRUMP!
Title: Re: Mayoral task force recommends paying struggling Chicagoans $1,000 a month
Post by: bflynn on February 08, 2019, 01:14:46 PM
We don’t need Chicago to do it. Ontario pulled the plug on this plan less that a year after it the pilot program started. Reason?  They missed how much it would actually cost. It tones out that the government doesn’t have enough money to give eniugh away to all the poor people.
Title: Re: Mayoral task force recommends paying struggling Chicagoans $1,000 a month
Post by: Rush on February 08, 2019, 07:23:03 PM
If it's a failure that won't matter. People don't learn.
Title: Re: Mayoral task force recommends paying struggling Chicagoans $1,000 a month
Post by: TimRB on February 10, 2019, 12:34:10 PM
If it fails, as it surely will, then we can say "told you so" and stop proposing such inane policies.

It will fail, no doubt, but I would expect them to use the gun control approach: instead of giving everyone $1000, give them $2000.

Tim
Title: Re: Mayoral task force recommends paying struggling Chicagoans $1,000 a month
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on February 10, 2019, 02:20:35 PM
Panera Bread had a “Panera Cares” program on the socialist model where people could pay whatever they could. It’s done.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/43105/paneras-socialist-pay-what-you-want-restaurant-paul-bois

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Rather than create a charitable organization that distributes food to needy families or a discount outlet or even a $1 menu (like every other fast-food restaurant), Panera tried to create a socialist system in which meals were offered at a suggested donation price. That means some people would pay more while others would pay less based on what they felt like or could afford. By not simply offering food at a low price, Panera completely removed any incentive for patrons to meet even the lowest standards of consumer/retailer exchange. The result: some people paid their fair share while others enjoyed a "free lunch."



Title: Re: Mayoral task force recommends paying struggling Chicagoans $1,000 a month
Post by: bflynn on February 10, 2019, 04:43:16 PM
About 250,000 in Chicago have incomes under 10,000 a year. If they only gave $1000 a month to them...and if they are serious, many more “need” it, then that is 3 billion a year for just the bottom 10%. The estimated city budget is 10 billion.

I wonder if anyone has questioned the math on this and what getting cut.
Title: Re: Mayoral task force recommends paying struggling Chicagoans $1,000 a month
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on February 10, 2019, 04:44:14 PM
They should have checked out Finland first.