PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Mase on June 13, 2016, 02:07:37 PM
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Delusional on immigration.
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Delusional on immigration.
Well to your liberal/progressive eyes, I'm sure he is. Why can't we examine who we are letting into this country to make sure they aren't criminals or terrorists? You can't vet Syrians. There are no records. How about the illegals coming in with no process whatsoever. The Administration is PROMOTING both entries with NO BACKGROUND CHECKS!
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Delusional on immigration.
We are not obligated to let anyone into this country. We do but there are limits (or used to be) on who we admit, how many and from where they come from. This is by design since we should only be letting those in who will enrich our society and have something to offer. The federal government sets and controls immigration policy and they are doing a disservice to the county by opening the gates and letting anyone and everyone in. That doesn't mean we can't ever let refugees in or people seeking asylum, but it should be limited and controlled. Legalizing illegals is merely a way to get more democrat votes.
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Legalizing illegals is merely a way to get more democrat votes.
Actually, to put a point on it, letting any immigrant in is more votes for Democrats. It's not just poor Mexicans, or miserable Syrians, it's highly educated Europeans, Indians, Ukrainians, Russians, Koreans, Chinese too. Where in the world would an immigrant come from that would have American conservative beliefs and likely to join the Republican party? I have a hard time thinking of where. Maybe Australia, or Canada? What they call conservatives in Europe are more aligned with moderate Democrats here.
Anywhere else in the world an immigrant might come from would be a place with a strong central government and so they would be used to the idea that the government allows or denies your rights and also is there to protect and serve you. In short, the Democrat platform would be much more understandable and comfortable to an immigrant from anywhere I would think.
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Anywhere else in the world an immigrant might come from would be a place with a strong central government and so they would be used to the idea that the government allows or denies your rights and also is there to protect and serve you. In short, the Democrat platform would be much more understandable and comfortable to an immigrant from anywhere I would think.
Many people in formerly-Communist lands actively free such environments and are fertile grounds for voting for Freedom.
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Well to your liberal/progressive eyes, I'm sure he is. Why can't we examine who we are letting into this country to make sure they aren't criminals or terrorists? You can't vet Syrians. There are no records. How about the illegals coming in with no process whatsoever. The Administration is PROMOTING both entries with NO BACKGROUND CHECKS!
And as we saw over the weekend, background checks are largely useless even for natural born citizens.
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Well to your liberal/progressive eyes, I'm sure he is. Why can't we examine who we are letting into this country to make sure they aren't criminals or terrorists? You can't vet Syrians. There are no records. How about the illegals coming in with no process whatsoever. The Administration is PROMOTING both entries with NO BACKGROUND CHECKS!
He is delusional on immigration because simply, how do you implement it. For example, say there was a white Muslim guy from England ( who may or may not have recently 'visited Turkey') , unless they are wearing "I am a terrorist" t-shirt - how would you know ? Ask they to recite the lords prayer or eat a bacon sandwich ?
.. liberal/progressive...... oh god no, just fecking practical !!!
If you bothered to read the complete 9/11 commission report - you would know that some of the 9/11 hijackers had multiple passwords from various countries, easier enough to get an passport from any country and again, you would be none the wiser.
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And as we saw over the weekend, background checks are largely useless even for natural born citizens.
100% agree. I know someone who "visited" Florida for 2 weeks, stayed 3 years ( no visa) and when leaving the US, was told he had a 10 year ban from re-entry... was back living in NJ in less than 26 months - fully legal with green card after 12 months living there.
USCIS is useless. TSA is useless. But there are all here to 'protect' us.
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I love how the conservatives loudly and frequently champion the US Constitution and its second amendment, but seem to frequently forget the first.
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I love how the conservatives loudly and frequently champion the US Constitution and its second amendment, but seem to frequently forget the first.
Nice strawman.
What conservatives forget the first amendment? It's liberals who want to ban "hate speech" or demand that people who don't agree with them shut up.
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I love how the conservatives loudly and frequently champion the US Constitution and its second amendment, but seem to frequently forget the first.
WTF are you talking about????
Oh, I know. It is when we call you out for your lies and distortions. But it's not that we don't think you don't have the right to lie and distort. It just annoys us when you spew that to a captive and impressionable young audience.
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I love how the conservatives loudly and frequently champion the US Constitution and its second amendment, but seem to frequently forget the first.
Facts not in evidence.
In other words, keep MSU
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I love how the conservatives loudly and frequently champion the US Constitution and its second amendment, but seem to frequently forget the first.
I love how the liberals loudly and frequently champion the US Constitution and its first amendment, but seem to frequently forget the second, which is there to protect the rest of them.
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I love how the liberals loudly and frequently champion the US Constitution and its first amendment, but seem to frequently forget the second, which is there to protect the rest of them.
Liberals claim to champion the US constitution and its first amendment.
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I love how the liberals loudly and frequently champion the US Constitution and its first amendment, but seem to frequently forget the second, which is there to protect the rest of them.
Can you cite actual examples of this?
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Can you cite actual examples of this?
Well, I guess you got me there.... :o
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Can you cite actual examples of this?
How about if he were to change that to:
"Liberals occasionally, when it suit's their agenda, champion the US Constitution and its first amendment"
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How about if he were to change that to:
"Liberals occasionally, when it suit's their agenda, champion the US Constitution and its first amendment WHEN THEY EXERCISE THEIR RIGHT TO SILENCE CONSERVATIVE SPEECH THROUGH WHATEVER MEANS IS NECESSARY."
FTFY
Libs just have a different idea of the definition of "freedom."
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FTFY
Libs just have a different idea of the definition of "freedom."
The progressive agenda calls for freedom of speech, so long as you speak in ways that are pre-approved by them and support their agenda. Free Speech zones are so progressive you know.
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Liberal Free Speech Zone:
(http://truthinmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/FreeSpeechZone1.jpg)
Conservative Free Speech Zone:
(http://wallpapercave.com/wp/Tthh4kN.jpg)
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Liberal Free Speech Zone:
(http://truthinmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/FreeSpeechZone1.jpg)
Conservative Free Speech Zone:
(http://wallpapercave.com/wp/Tthh4kN.jpg)
I think I can see the subtle differences...