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Title: Looks like Iran is attacking Israel
Post by: Rush on April 13, 2024, 02:12:54 PM
They launched a bunch of drones that will take several hours to reach Israel. The IDF is preparing to shoot them down.  Or try to.  That’s all I know.  Except Biden addressed it saying, “Mffff bblubbbb uh… mmmeffff huh?”
Title: Re: Looks like Iran is attacking Israel
Post by: Rush on April 13, 2024, 02:16:11 PM
Uh oh. Large explosion in Tehran.

It was fake news.  Apparently.  Jesus, the gaslighting and propaganda already?
Title: Re: Looks like Iran is attacking Israel
Post by: Rush on April 13, 2024, 02:20:21 PM
And the Bee is on it!

https://babylonbee.com/news/world-in-shock-as-murderous-terrorist-state-ignores-warning-from-impotent-old-man
Title: Re: Looks like Iran is attacking Israel
Post by: Rush on April 13, 2024, 06:46:14 PM
I think WW3 has started.

https://twitter.com/AmbJohnBolton/status/1779292027009560976
Title: Re: Looks like Iran is attacking Israel
Post by: Lucifer on April 13, 2024, 07:04:49 PM
The regime has been saying that a war time president always gets re-elected.   They have been stoking war in the Middle East, and the dip shit SoS has been making statements about admitting Ukraine to NATO. 

So yea, this is going to escalate. 
Title: Re: Looks like Iran is attacking Israel
Post by: Anthony on April 14, 2024, 03:06:07 AM
I think WW3 has started.

https://twitter.com/AmbJohnBolton/status/1779292027009560976

It's what the Uniparty wants. So here we are.
Title: Re: Looks like Iran is attacking Israel
Post by: Lucifer on April 14, 2024, 06:32:50 AM
The major problem is the communist behind the FJB regime have no sense of reality and are all out to retain power.   If they need to start a world war to do it, so be it.

This same regime has depleted our strategic oil reserve, been steadily depleting our ammunition reserves, has crippled our military with DEI initiatives as well as bringing the military readiness to extreme low levels.  Even critical parts for our military hardware are made in other countries.

Add in the thousands upon thousands of military age men admitted across our borders, who we know nothing about, coupled with the billions of dollars in weapons the regime has abandoned overseas, and yes, we have a major problem brewing.

  Remember, the dictator in Ukraine suspended elections due to "the war" and the regime here saw that as brilliant.
Title: Re: Looks like Iran is attacking Israel
Post by: Rush on April 14, 2024, 07:18:55 AM
https://twitter.com/TTEcclesBrown/status/1779313264482271534

For you non-Twitter users:

“Explaining the Israel / Gaza / Iran gang wars”
Title: Re: Looks like Iran is attacking Israel
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on April 14, 2024, 07:46:42 AM
I miss President Trump. When he killed Solemani I rushed to Twitter to see if he had words of comfort. And he did.

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/tentacles-sunday-april-14-2024-c?utm_campaign=email-half-post&r=1uqjx7&utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
Title: Re: Looks like Iran is attacking Israel
Post by: Rush on April 14, 2024, 08:03:33 AM
I miss President Trump. When he killed Solemani I rushed to Twitter to see if he had words of comfort. And he did.

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/tentacles-sunday-april-14-2024-c?utm_campaign=email-half-post&r=1uqjx7&utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

Seriously?  It’s all over?  They just wanted to scare the ever loving shit out of the whole world and that’s it?

I miss Trump too.
Title: Re: Looks like Iran is attacking Israel
Post by: Username on April 14, 2024, 08:51:16 AM
The MIC won't allow an all out nuclear exchange.  No profit in it.  Lots of medium to large regional conflicts that eat up material that needs to be replaced and a lot of proxy "expendable" nations in the meat grinder.

Then they'll activate the mostly peaceful migrants to start shooting up and blowing up the soft targets and we'll get gun confiscation (because it's the guns, not the shooter), lockdowns (for our own safety), and military in the streets (must restore order).  Maybe some public executions just for entertainment.

Unlimited riches for the MIC / elite class.  A population locked down.  Utopia!
Title: Re: Looks like Iran is attacking Israel
Post by: Rush on April 16, 2024, 05:09:18 AM
Interesting

Title: Re: Looks like Iran is attacking Israel
Post by: Anthony on April 16, 2024, 05:30:56 AM
The MIC won't allow an all out nuclear exchange.  No profit in it.  Lots of medium to large regional conflicts that eat up material that needs to be replaced and a lot of proxy "expendable" nations in the meat grinder.

Then they'll activate the mostly peaceful migrants to start shooting up and blowing up the soft targets and we'll get gun confiscation (because it's the guns, not the shooter), lockdowns (for our own safety), and military in the streets (must restore order).  Maybe some public executions just for entertainment.

Unlimited riches for the MIC / elite class.  A population locked down.  Utopia!

It's happening now.  The democrats have floated a bill in the House to ban AR-15s and "some" 9mm pistols.  These people are radical, anti-American Totalitarian Marxists
Title: Re: Looks like Iran is attacking Israel
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on April 16, 2024, 06:14:15 AM
It's happening now.  The democrats have floated a bill in the House to ban AR-15s and "some" 9mm pistols.  These people are radical, anti-American Totalitarian Marxists

Same ol same ol
Title: Re: Looks like Iran is attacking Israel
Post by: Rush on April 16, 2024, 06:27:47 AM
The MIC won't allow an all out nuclear exchange.  No profit in it.  Lots of medium to large regional conflicts that eat up material that needs to be replaced and a lot of proxy "expendable" nations in the meat grinder.

Then they'll activate the mostly peaceful migrants to start shooting up and blowing up the soft targets and we'll get gun confiscation (because it's the guns, not the shooter), lockdowns (for our own safety), and military in the streets (must restore order).  Maybe some public executions just for entertainment.

Unlimited riches for the MIC / elite class.  A population locked down.  Utopia!

This is what is really bothering me about all the FISA bruhaha.  The Dems and establishment GOP want to extend FISA and the MAGA Republicans and I guess libertarian types don't; Styx himself has said, "abolish FISA".  They (the latter) says either abolish it or put warrant requirements on it. 

The specifics of the extensions are they want to enable warrantless spying through third parties, ie: forcing third parties to collect data on their behalf.  Example, the hotel that provides you WiFi or the internet cafe, or your employer, certainly your ISP, basically anyone that has access to any server, modem, or tech equipment that is involved in your internet/cell phone activities.  And they'd force these third parties to do it without notifying you they're doing so.

And they are allowing this on suspicion of an American citizen communicating with any "foreign threat" and without a warrant means without actual evidence.  The foreign threat is how it's being sold, but "domestic threat" will no doubt be included under the umbrella.

So naturally we DON'T want them doing this.  But here's the big problem: The wide open borders are letting in all kinds of terrorists (anyone denying this is delusional) and to the extent the IC actually wants to prevent terror attacks, now they do need the data from the communications these people are having within our borders.

Because of the mass invasion of illegals, we can't protect ourselves without being able to spy on them, but in the mix this enables the IC to spy on ALL of us and specifically because they're partisan, to include "domestic terrorists" (ie MAGA supporters or parents at school board meetings, Catholics going to church, and anyone who even thought of going to DC on Jan. 6).

This will be abused.  But it's being sold to us by fear mongering about foreign enemies, but without saying the obvious part out loud "Tee hee, we are inviting those enemies in with open arms."
Title: Re: Looks like Iran is attacking Israel
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on April 16, 2024, 06:34:31 AM
Interesting


What does this guy do for a living?
Title: Re: Looks like Iran is attacking Israel
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on April 16, 2024, 06:51:07 AM
Saves a ton of money on haircuts and such
Title: Re: Looks like Iran is attacking Israel
Post by: Rush on April 16, 2024, 07:41:06 AM
What does this guy do for a living?

This content stuff and he’s an author and an editor of several books. That’s it as far as I know.
Title: Re: Looks like Iran is attacking Israel
Post by: Lucifer on April 16, 2024, 07:46:57 AM
This is what is really bothering me about all the FISA bruhaha.  The Dems and establishment GOP want to extend FISA and the MAGA Republicans and I guess libertarian types don't; Styx himself has said, "abolish FISA".  They (the latter) says either abolish it or put warrant requirements on it. 

The specifics of the extensions are they want to enable warrantless spying through third parties, ie: forcing third parties to collect data on their behalf.  Example, the hotel that provides you WiFi or the internet cafe, or your employer, certainly your ISP, basically anyone that has access to any server, modem, or tech equipment that is involved in your internet/cell phone activities.  And they'd force these third parties to do it without notifying you they're doing so.

And they are allowing this on suspicion of an American citizen communicating with any "foreign threat" and without a warrant means without actual evidence.  The foreign threat is how it's being sold, but "domestic threat" will no doubt be included under the umbrella.

So naturally we DON'T want them doing this.  But here's the big problem: The wide open borders are letting in all kinds of terrorists (anyone denying this is delusional) and to the extent the IC actually wants to prevent terror attacks, now they do need the data from the communications these people are having within our borders.

Because of the mass invasion of illegals, we can't protect ourselves without being able to spy on them, but in the mix this enables the IC to spy on ALL of us and specifically because they're partisan, to include "domestic terrorists" (ie MAGA supporters or parents at school board meetings, Catholics going to church, and anyone who even thought of going to DC on Jan. 6).

This will be abused.  But it's being sold to us by fear mongering about foreign enemies, but without saying the obvious part out loud "Tee hee, we are inviting those enemies in with open arms."

  The UniParty wants FISA since it's become a valuable tool for them, and it circumvents the constitution.

  The UniParty is dismantling the constitution right in front of us while telling how this is for our own good.  The regime openly defies the constitution.   And congress is all to happy to sit back and watch.

  The storm is on the horizon.  I hope everyone is preparing for what is coming.
Title: Re: Looks like Iran is attacking Israel
Post by: Rush on April 16, 2024, 08:23:30 AM
  The UniParty wants FISA since it's become a valuable tool for them, and it circumvents the constitution.

  The UniParty is dismantling the constitution right in front of us while telling how this is for our own good.  The regime openly defies the constitution.   And congress is all to happy to sit back and watch.

  The storm is on the horizon.  I hope everyone is preparing for what is coming.

Muslim immigrants are openly calling for "Death to America" IN OUR OWN CITIES.  The regime is openly allowing this, and openly encouraging more illegals to enter the country and join with these anti-American enemies.  It's like they are deliberately destroying our way of life, our constitutional republic, our culture, everything.
Title: Re: Looks like Iran is attacking Israel
Post by: Jim Logajan on April 16, 2024, 08:35:56 AM
Muslim immigrants are openly calling for "Death to America" IN OUR OWN CITIES.  The regime is openly allowing this, and openly encouraging more illegals to enter the country and join with these anti-American enemies.  It's like they are deliberately destroying our way of life, our constitutional republic, our culture, everything.
Does this mean you want authorities to take legal action or use force against people shouting "Death to America"?
Title: Re: Looks like Iran is attacking Israel
Post by: Little Joe on April 16, 2024, 09:16:27 AM
Does this mean you want authorities to take legal action or use force against people shouting "Death to America"?
I don't think that's what was meant.  I think it means that we should not be encouraging illegal aliens to enter the country.
Title: Re: Looks like Iran is attacking Israel
Post by: Rush on April 16, 2024, 09:18:02 AM
I don't think that's what was meant.  I think it means that we should not be encouraging illegal aliens to enter the country.

Thank you, yes, that is what I meant.
Title: Re: Looks like Iran is attacking Israel
Post by: Mase on April 16, 2024, 09:27:49 AM
Throw them out.
Title: Re: Looks like Iran is attacking Israel
Post by: Rush on April 16, 2024, 09:42:19 AM
Does this mean you want authorities to take legal action or use force against people shouting "Death to America"?

There is a fine line between First Amendment free speech and a credible threat. Credible threats are not protected.  Protesting non-violently shouting "Death to America" is protected free speech.  They should be allowed to do so because this outs them.  If you ban speech, it goes underground, it doesn't stop people from their beliefs.  Allowing them to express themselves identifies your enemies.

But when they cross the line into a credible threat then yes, force should be used.  First of all, if these are illegals, force should be used to deport them PERIOD no matter if they're shouting in the streets or not.  But many of these are legally in the U.S. on work VISAs or are actual citizens.  So now, you need to determine if shouting "Death to America" is incitement to violence and hence a credible threat.

President Trump said the following on January 6:

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Please support our Capitol Police and Law Enforcement. They are truly on the side of our Country. Stay peaceful!

I am asking for everyone at the U.S. Capitol to remain peaceful. No violence! Remember, WE are the Party of Law & Order – respect the Law and our great men and women in Blue. Thank you!

These are the things and events that happen when a sacred landslide election victory is so unceremoniously & viciously stripped away from great patriots who have been badly & unfairly treated for so long. Go home with love & in peace. Remember this day forever!

These statements were considered incitement to violence and insurrection.  If we do not likewise treat mobs shouting "Death to America" in multiple cities across the nation as a much worse incitement to violence then we have everything upside down and backwards. 

We have everything upside down and backwards.  I'm not going to give these enemies within our borders much slack.  Yes, use force if:

1. They block traffic or otherwise impede people from moving freely
2. They do any kind of damage to property or physically assault anyone
3. They grow in enough numbers to be a credible threat

Number 3 is the concern. Look what's happening to European countries. It's a credible threat when it reaches enough numbers.  We do not want to wait til it gets that bad here.
Title: Re: Looks like Iran is attacking Israel
Post by: Lucifer on April 16, 2024, 10:04:31 AM
Does this mean you want authorities to take legal action or use force against people shouting "Death to America"?

I heard a liberal commentator make that same assertion yesterday.  Convenient how that works huh?
Title: Re: Looks like Iran is attacking Israel
Post by: Username on April 16, 2024, 10:16:56 AM
Number 1 is also a growing concern.  Why are protesters allowed to block roads?  Like roads into ORD or JFK?  Or across bridges?  Or elsewhere?  The police stand by and do nothing.  Except maybe arrest motorists who have had enough and try to remove the protesters.  Sure, go ahead and protest.  That's your right.  But don't mess with people trying to get on with their lives.  And costing those people money (missing their flights) or their livelihood (being late for or missing work entirely).  I say get a line of front-loaders and peacefully move the protesters out of the way.
Title: Re: Looks like Iran is attacking Israel
Post by: Lucifer on April 16, 2024, 10:25:57 AM
Number 1 is also a growing concern.  Why are protesters allowed to block roads?  Like roads into ORD or JFK?  Or across bridges?  Or elsewhere?  The police stand by and do nothing.  Except maybe arrest motorists who have had enough and try to remove the protesters.  Sure, go ahead and protest.  That's your right.  But don't mess with people trying to get on with their lives.  And costing those people money (missing their flights) or their livelihood (being late for or missing work entirely).  I say get a line of front-loaders and peacefully move the protesters out of the way.

Let me sum it up this way. 

We watched democrats and their hate groups (ATIFA, BLM) riot, burn, loot and even murder while cops stood by and the media called it a “mostly peaceful protest”. 

The republicans had one protest, that was mostly peaceful, and the only death was a protestor. 

The media and the democrats lost their minds. 
Title: Re: Looks like Iran is attacking Israel
Post by: Number7 on April 16, 2024, 10:39:49 AM
Does this mean you want authorities to take legal action or use force against people shouting "Death to America"?

That is an asshole response to a legitimate observation, and you know it but can’t help being a supercilious asshole.
Title: Re: Looks like Iran is attacking Israel
Post by: Rush on April 16, 2024, 10:49:23 AM
Number 1 is also a growing concern.  Why are protesters allowed to block roads?  Like roads into ORD or JFK?  Or across bridges?  Or elsewhere?  The police stand by and do nothing.  Except maybe arrest motorists who have had enough and try to remove the protesters.  Sure, go ahead and protest.  That's your right.  But don't mess with people trying to get on with their lives.  And costing those people money (missing their flights) or their livelihood (being late for or missing work entirely).  I say get a line of front-loaders and peacefully move the protesters out of the way.

That is false imprisonment which is a crime. These scum need to be imprisoned, or just run down by the victims being held against their will.  It's not a matter of missing your flight or being late to work. It can be deadly. Ambulances, or regular people driving to the doctor with a sick kid, anyone needing to get somewhere urgently. It is very serious to block roads, it should be a felony to do so.  You are falsely imprisoning many people all at once.
Title: Re: Looks like Iran is attacking Israel
Post by: Jim Logajan on April 16, 2024, 11:16:12 AM
Thank you, yes, that is what I meant.
"Muslim immigrants are openly calling for "Death to America" IN OUR OWN CITIES.  The regime is openly allowing this,"

It has been my understanding of English that the pronoun "this" refers to something appearing earlier in the text, not later (unless followed by a colon.) And the placement of the comma indicated the completion of the sub-thought. Over the years you have demonstrated, to me at least, that you can articulate your positions very well with little or no ambiguity. I found it striking that you would write something suggesting suppression of free speech, hence the pointed question.
Thank you for the correction.
Title: Re: Looks like Iran is attacking Israel
Post by: Rush on April 16, 2024, 12:06:46 PM
"Muslim immigrants are openly calling for "Death to America" IN OUR OWN CITIES.  The regime is openly allowing this,"

It has been my understanding of English that the pronoun "this" refers to something appearing earlier in the text, not later (unless followed by a colon.) And the placement of the comma indicated the completion of the sub-thought. Over the years you have demonstrated, to me at least, that you can articulate your positions very well with little or no ambiguity. I found it striking that you would write something suggesting suppression of free speech, hence the pointed question.
Thank you for the correction.

Maybe it would have been more clear if I'd said, the regime is openly enabling this by 1) Not securing the border and indeed encouraging illegals to come on in, and 2) Ignoring the "Death to America" protests. They are tacitly approving it by doing nothing.  As opposed to making statements about how MAGA voters are the worst threat to the country in existence. What kind of message does that send to our enemies? 
Title: Re: Looks like Iran is attacking Israel
Post by: Little Joe on April 16, 2024, 01:04:41 PM
"Muslim immigrants are openly calling for "Death to America" IN OUR OWN CITIES.  The regime is openly allowing this,"

It has been my understanding of English that the pronoun "this" refers to something appearing earlier in the text, not later (unless followed by a colon.) And the placement of the comma indicated the completion of the sub-thought. Over the years you have demonstrated, to me at least, that you can articulate your positions very well with little or no ambiguity. I found it striking that you would write something suggesting suppression of free speech, hence the pointed question.
Picky technical semantics.
And I usually support your counterpoints.  But not this time.
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Thank you for the correction.
I hope that was sincere and not snarky; like "bless your heart".

The biggest mistake you made was to take one part of a comment without considering the context of the other part.  Just like people do with the 2nd.
Title: Re: Looks like Iran is attacking Israel
Post by: Anthony on April 16, 2024, 02:26:36 PM
Maybe it would have been more clear if I'd said, the regime is openly enabling this by 1) Not securing the border and indeed encouraging illegals to come on in, and 2) Ignoring the "Death to America" protests. They are tacitly approving it by doing nothing.  As opposed to making statements about how MAGA voters are the worst threat to the country in existence. What kind of message does that send to our enemies?

The administration is not doing nothing. They are enabling and encouraging it. That's a far cry from just not stopping it. They are causing it.
Title: Re: Looks like Iran is attacking Israel
Post by: Jim Logajan on April 16, 2024, 02:43:00 PM
Picky technical semantics.
It's an issue of basic English word order and meaning as I understand it, not picky semantics, got it?
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I hope that was sincere and not snarky; like "bless your heart".
It was fucking plain English with plain meaning. When I do snark, like I'm doing now, I make it as plain as fucking possible.
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The biggest mistake you made was to take one part of a comment without considering the context of the other part.  Just like people do with the 2nd.
I did take the context and the author into consideration and what she wrote was still at BEST ambiguous to me.
Title: Re: Looks like Iran is attacking Israel
Post by: Number7 on April 16, 2024, 03:00:55 PM
It's an issue of basic English word order and meaning as I understand it, not picky semantics, got it?It was fucking plain English with plain meaning. When I do snark, like I'm doing now, I make it as plain as fucking possible.I did take the context and the author into consideration and what she wrote was still at BEST ambiguous to me.

It is so odd that you only pull that stupid shit when protecting the fucking swamp.

But keep defending your pathetic shilling.
Title: Re: Looks like Iran is attacking Israel
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on April 16, 2024, 07:19:26 PM
God protects Israel, they are the chosen people.  It's in the book.