Post by: Lucifer on April 15, 2018, 05:23:21 PM
http://dailycaller.com/2018/04/15/r-lee-ermey-dies/
Post by: acrogimp on April 15, 2018, 05:31:56 PM
Rest easy Marine, we have the watch.
'Gimp
Post by: nddons on April 16, 2018, 04:58:32 AM
RIP Gunny.
Post by: Jaybird180 on April 16, 2018, 10:17:39 AM
Point of reference for you non-Marines:
It is considered improper to refer to him simply as "Gunny". Gunny is a term of endearment, reserved specifically for a familiar. It is more appropriate for him to be addressed as "Gunnery Sergeant".
Post by: Lucifer on April 16, 2018, 10:25:50 AM
Semper Fi Brother Ermey.
Point of reference for you non-Marines:
It is considered improper to refer to him simply as "Gunny". Gunny is a term of endearment, reserved specifically for a familiar. It is more appropriate for him to be addressed as "Gunnery Sergeant".
Point of reference for yourself: R. Lee Ermey preferred to be called "Gunny". ::)
Post by: Little Joe on April 16, 2018, 10:27:57 AM
Semper Fi Brother Ermey.Those referring to him as "Gunny" intended for ti to be a term of endearment. AND Respect. I don't think he would take offense.
Point of reference for you non-Marines:
It is considered improper to refer to him simply as "Gunny". Gunny is a term of endearment, reserved specifically for a familiar. It is more appropriate for him to be addressed as "Gunnery Sergeant".
Post by: Jaybird180 on April 16, 2018, 10:31:48 AM
Point of reference for yourself: R. Lee Ermey preferred to be called "Gunny". ::)Of course he did. He played a role as one in a movie AFTER he was medically retired as a Staff Sergeant. He was promoted later by CMC (with all rights, privileges and pay thereunto pertaining).
Post by: Lucifer on April 16, 2018, 11:00:24 AM
Of course he did. He played a role as one in a movie AFTER he was medically retired as a Staff Sergeant. He was promoted later by CMC (with all rights, privileges and pay thereunto pertaining).
And your point is??? ::)
Post by: nddons on April 16, 2018, 11:13:09 AM
Point of reference for yourself: R. Lee Ermey preferred to be called "Gunny".Exactly.
Per Wiki:
2001: History Channel: “Mail Call”, starring Gunny as himself.
2009: History Channel: “Lock N’ Load with R. Lee Ermey”, staring Gunny as himself.
2015: “Gunny Time” starring Gunny as himself.
2016: “Military Makeover” starring Gunny as himself.
Among others.
Post by: Jaybird180 on April 16, 2018, 11:17:02 AM
Post by: Anthony on April 16, 2018, 06:12:53 PM
And Hollywood blackballed him later in his career for criticizing Obama, and being an NRA board member.
Post by: Lucifer on April 17, 2018, 05:45:32 AM
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on April 17, 2018, 08:30:22 PM
http://moonbattery.com/r-i-p-r-lee-ermey/
Post by: invflatspin on April 20, 2018, 08:46:55 AM
First of all, he is qualified to be called such. And if a man asks you to call him whatever, it's typically considered good manners to do so. In the case of Gunnery Sergeants being called "Gunny" its a special thing, Marine Ethos. Very few Marines (that I've ever encountered) introduce themselves by similar titles indicating terminal rank. I know of only one other Marine whom I refer to as "Gunny" but I know and associate with several other former Active Duty Marines, both below and above the rank of GySgt who do not or do not wish to be referred to by their rank, myself included. This custom extends both Officer and Enlisted ranks with one notable exception that I can think of: Captain Dale Dye has been credited in at least one military movie with his retired rank. However this is unusual and his later film credits simply refer to him as Dale Dye.
I think you are the exception. Every GySgt I've ever talked to never once mentioned that it was bad form, or bad manners. It comes with the territory, and if I ever met one who objected to the reference I would think him odd. Of course, on first meeting, it would certainly be 'Gunnery Sergeant Smith', but after the first recognition of full rank, hereafter I will reply with 'Gunny Smith'. If he/she has a problem with that, well - we can just take it outside.
Post by: Little Joe on April 20, 2018, 09:48:49 AM
I think you are the exception. Every GySgt I've ever talked to never once mentioned that it was bad form, or bad manners. It comes with the territory, and if I ever met one who objected to the reference I would think him odd. Of course, on first meeting, it would certainly be 'Gunnery Sergeant Smith', but after the first recognition of full rank, hereafter I will reply with 'Gunny Smith'. If he/she has a problem with that, well - we can just take it outside.I have know two gunnery sergeants. Neither of them objected to being called "gunny" except by junior enlisted men during duty, and by others for whom they had no respect. Then they would insist on being called "Gunnery Sergeant".
Post by: Jaybird180 on April 20, 2018, 11:36:51 AM
I think you are the exception. Every GySgt I've ever talked to never once mentioned that it was bad form, or bad manners. It comes with the territory, and if I ever met one who objected to the reference I would think him odd. Of course, on first meeting, it would certainly be 'Gunnery Sergeant Smith', but after the first recognition of full rank, hereafter I will reply with 'Gunny Smith'. If he/she has a problem with that, well - we can just take it outside.Mature Marines have an amazing ability to hold their tongue when warranted. One Staff Sergeant of whom I admire greatly accepted unintentional disrespecful addressing by a former Coastguardsman turned civilian. I was AD at the time and we were all working together. The Coastie called the SSgt, "Staff". This was probably out of convenience of ignorance. This went on for several months with no one saying anything.
When we were alone, the SSgt needed to vent and let me know that it irritated him that the Coastie referred to him as a bacterial infection (Staph). I don't recall how we got that message relayed but I don't recall hearing "Staph" much anymore. That was a long time ago and it may have been me who said something to him.
Post by: Jaybird180 on April 20, 2018, 11:37:41 AM
I have know two gunnery sergeants. Neither of them objected to being called "gunny" except by junior enlisted men during duty, and by others for whom they had no respect. Then they would insist on being called "Gunnery Sergeant".Depends on the unit primarily then I suppose personal preference.
Post by: invflatspin on April 22, 2018, 08:36:39 PM
Mature Marines have an amazing ability to hold their tongue when warranted. One Staff Sergeant of whom I admire greatly accepted unintentional disrespecful addressing by a former Coastguardsman turned civilian. I was AD at the time and we were all working together. The Coastie called the SSgt, "Staff". This was probably out of convenience of ignorance. This went on for several months with no one saying anything.
When we were alone, the SSgt needed to vent and let me know that it irritated him that the Coastie referred to him as a bacterial infection (Staph). I don't recall how we got that message relayed but I don't recall hearing "Staph" much anymore. That was a long time ago and it may have been me who said something to him.
As opposed to immature Marines? What the rest of this SSG drivel has to do with calling someone 'Gunny Smith', I really don't know - and now, don't care. Except to say that I've heard before that Coast Guard personnel don't generally care for 'Coastie'. But - meh.
Post by: bflynn on April 23, 2018, 05:49:12 AM
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on April 23, 2018, 06:17:22 AM
Mature Marines have an amazing ability to hold their tongue when warranted. One Staff Sergeant of whom I admire greatly accepted unintentional disrespecful addressing by a former Coastguardsman turned civilian. I was AD at the time and we were all working together. The Coastie called the SSgt, "Staff". This was probably out of convenience of ignorance. This went on for several months with no one saying anything.
When we were alone, the SSgt needed to vent and let me know that it irritated him that the Coastie referred to him as a bacterial infection (Staph). I don't recall how we got that message relayed but I don't recall hearing "Staph" much anymore. That was a long time ago and it may have been me who said something to him.
Could be worse-- Gunnery Sargent called "Gonorrhea."
Post by: Jaybird180 on April 23, 2018, 09:07:56 AM
As opposed to immature Marines? What the rest of this SSG drivel has to do with calling someone 'Gunny Smith', I really don't know - and now, don't care. Except to say that I've heard before that Coast Guard personnel don't generally care for 'Coastie'. But - meh.
I said, "Mature Marines" as a means of saying that he was more PC and disciplined in his displeasure. The few Guardsmen that I've encountered didn't mind being called Coastie. They did however get a chuckle (mostly) from being called, "puddle pirate" or "shallow water sailor".
But clearly, you lost the flow of the story which is why you don't care. Noted.
Post by: invflatspin on April 23, 2018, 09:16:59 AM
Post by: Jaybird180 on April 23, 2018, 09:46:21 AM