PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Bamaflyer on October 15, 2021, 08:07:36 AM
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Just gonna leave this here…
Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg has been on paternity leave since mid-August, but his time off comes amid the Biden administration's efforts to quell the supply chain crunch and the ongoing infrastructure debate on Capitol Hill to move forward with President Biden's agenda.
www.foxnews.com/politics/buttigieg-paternity-leave-supply-chain-infrastructure
😳 WTF!
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I'm happy with that. Can you imagine the mess if he was actually trying to organize something like this?
(perhaps that should have been in green, but it is the sad truth).
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What a fucking joke. Instead of dealing with a national supply chain crisis, he’s showing that he and his job are worthless.
He is a FUCKING CABINET SECRETARY. Act like one.
This would be like the Commander of the Pacific Fleet taking 8 weeks off because his wife is having a baby.
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What a fucking joke. Instead of dealing with a national supply chain crisis, he’s showing that he and his job are worthless.
He is a FUCKING CABINET SECRETARY. Act like one.
This would be like the Commander of the Pacific Fleet taking 8 weeks off because his wife is having a baby.
But he's GAY. So that makes him special.
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The rules never apply to queers, trannies, democrats (communists), or progressive blacks.
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I have a problem with the whole concept of paternity leave.
Maternity leave has everything to do with breastfeeding. If you’re going to have two full time working parents, well why’d you get a child anyway, but if you must both work while trying to raise kids, the newborn benefits most from breastfeeding in the first few months. That’s the idea giving women time off after childbirth. Anyone (a nanny) can give formula. If you’re going to go back to work anyway just take the day off to give birth and then get back to work. What’s the point of bonding for two months when you’re just going to dump the kid in daycare the rest of its childhood.
I have no problem with gay marriage and no problem with gay couples raising children. Male/female parents are ideal but a gay couple who is loving is far preferable to a couple of male/female abusive alcoholics.
But if any couple of any gender/orientation combination has a baby, somebody better stay home with it, at least until they reach school age. If they can swing it financially.
Paternity leave seems to be designed to allow the male to be home with the kid instead of the mother, on the paradigm everybody has a career these days and the female can’t be bothered to breastfeed.
Let me be perfectly clear: I have NO problem with men taking time off to help with the newborn, bond, whatever. My problem is government mandated paternity leave, especially paid. That forces all of society to pay for your choices. I know that’s not the case everywhere in the U.S. yet but the left is pushing hard for it.
And I agree if your job is of national importance like supply chain infrastructure, sacrifices must be made, even if it means you don’t bond with your newborn. Or at least that would be the case of your job actually functioned to help the supply chain. In this case, Little Joe might be right, we might be better off if he stays the hell out of the way.
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I have a problem with the whole concept of paternity leave.
Maternity leave has everything to do with breastfeeding. If you’re going to have two full time working parents, well why’d you get a child anyway, but if you must both work while trying to raise kids, the newborn benefits most from breastfeeding in the first few months. That’s the idea giving women time off after childbirth. Anyone (a nanny) can give formula. If you’re going to go back to work anyway just take the day off to give birth and then get back to work. What’s the point of bonding for two months when you’re just going to dump the kid in daycare the rest of its childhood.
I have no problem with gay marriage and no problem with gay couples raising children. Male/female parents are ideal but a gay couple who is loving is far preferable to a couple of male/female abusive alcoholics.
But if any couple of any gender/orientation combination has a baby, somebody better stay home with it, at least until they reach school age. If they can swing it financially.
Paternity leave seems to be designed to allow the male to be home with the kid instead of the mother, on the paradigm everybody has a career these days and the female can’t be bothered to breastfeed.
Let me be perfectly clear: I have NO problem with men taking time off to help with the newborn, bond, whatever. My problem is government mandated paternity leave, especially paid. That forces all of society to pay for your choices. I know that’s not the case everywhere in the U.S. yet but the left is pushing hard for it.
And I agree if your job is of national importance like supply chain infrastructure, sacrifices must be made, even if it means you don’t bond with your newborn. Or at least that would be the case of your job actually functioned to help the supply chain. In this case, Little Joe might be right, we might be better off if he stays the hell out of the way.
That’s not how it works in practice in the private sector. To my knowledge there is no federal mandate that employers have paternity leave (though I could be wrong). In reality, paternity leave started to infiltrate the HR departments, effectively compelling companies to make paternity leave one of the many, many ways we as employers cater to and recruit our young Millennials and whatever current generations want.
It’s not seen as a way for the man to be home INSTEAD of the mother. It’s seen as a benefit, time off, that they are owed by virtual of having ejaculated into their wives at the right time.
I shit you not. My top performer planned for and took paternity leave starting in the last week in February and into the first week of March. What do you think CPAs are doing during those weeks? He gratefully took the remaining two weeks of paternity leave in May-June, after our busiest time of the year.
It’s a different world. I took 2 days off when my daughter was born.
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That’s not how it works in practice in the private sector. To my knowledge there is no federal mandate that employers have paternity leave (though I could be wrong). In reality, paternity leave started to infiltrate the HR departments, effectively compelling companies to make paternity leave one of the many, many ways we as employers cater to and recruit our young Millennials and whatever current generations want.
It’s not seen as a way for the man to be home INSTEAD of the mother. It’s seen as a benefit, time off, that they are owed by virtual of having ejaculated into their wives at the right time.
I shit you not. My top performer planned for and took paternity leave starting in the last week in February and into the first week of March. What do you think CPAs are doing during those weeks? He gratefully took the remaining two weeks of paternity leave in May-June, after our busiest time of the year.
It’s a different world. I took 2 days off when my daughter was born.
https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/fmla
Sounds like your "top performer" isn't quite the gem he could be.
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That’s not how it works in practice in the private sector. To my knowledge there is no federal mandate that employers have paternity leave (though I could be wrong). In reality, paternity leave started to infiltrate the HR departments, effectively compelling companies to make paternity leave one of the many, many ways we as employers cater to and recruit our young Millennials and whatever current generations want.
It’s not seen as a way for the man to be home INSTEAD of the mother. It’s seen as a benefit, time off, that they are owed by virtual of having ejaculated into their wives at the right time.
I shit you not. My top performer planned for and took paternity leave starting in the last week in February and into the first week of March. What do you think CPAs are doing during those weeks? He gratefully took the remaining two weeks of paternity leave in May-June, after our busiest time of the year.
It’s a different world. I took 2 days off when my daughter was born.
The night after our second daughter was born we had near record low temps, our furnace broke, and my husband was lead engineer at one of CP&L’s power plants. If you know what it’s like for the people making electricity under extremely high demand conditions, he had to go in to work. It was the weekend too, and he had to get the furnace fixed before we could come home from the hospital. He was there for the birth and some pictures, came back the next day to drive us home and I’m not sure he took any days off after that.
I don’t recall with the first one, he may have taken a couple days but no more than that. I did have grandma nearby. Maybe people don’t have grandmas to come help anymore.
I guess if that’s how the young people want to do it these days. I can’t imagine a man wanting to do housework while mom sits there nursing a newborn all day long. You’d think they’d want to get back to work. Unless work is no fun anymore because of all the corporate woke bullshit training programs they’re all made to do all day long these days. No wonder they’re making up any excuse to get the hell away from the office. Doing laundry and playing servant to a new mother and a tiny poop machine must be fun by comparison.
I know it’s the private sector HR departments doing this here but I understand government is mandating it in other countries like in Europe.
Hey I just looked it up. Wow, it’s worse than I thought:
In the United States, fathers can have some paid leaves if they live in California or other states with similar legislation (partial paid leave). In contrast, Slovenian fathers have 12 weeks of 100% paid paternity leave. In Sweden, 480 days of 80% paid paternity leave weeks. In Norway, 49 weeks of 100% paid paternity leave weeks or 59 weeks of 80% paid paternity leave. Finnish fathers have 11 partial paid leave weeks.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maternity_leave_in_the_United_States#Paternity_leave
Seriously? In Norway fathers can take almost a friggin YEAR off at 100% pay? YGBFSM
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https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/fmla
Sounds like your "top performer" isn't quite the gem he could be.
I just looked at our policy. While FMLA requires unpaid leave, our firm provides 100% paid leave as follows:
“Birthing parent” (I shit you not): 12 weeks.
“Non-birthing parent”: 6 weeks.
He only took 4 weeks, so I guess I’m lucky. Smh.
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The night after our second daughter was born we had near record low temps, our furnace broke, and my husband was lead engineer at one of CP&L’s power plants. If you know what it’s like for the people making electricity under extremely high demand conditions, he had to go in to work. It was the weekend too, and he had to get the furnace fixed before we could come home from the hospital. He was there for the birth and some pictures, came back the next day to drive us home and I’m not sure he took any days off after that.
I don’t recall with the first one, he may have taken a couple days but no more than that. I did have grandma nearby. Maybe people don’t have grandmas to come help anymore.
I guess if that’s how the young people want to do it these days. I can’t imagine a man wanting to do housework while mom sits there nursing a newborn all day long. You’d think they’d want to get back to work. Unless work is no fun anymore because of all the corporate woke bullshit training programs they’re all made to do all day long these days. No wonder they’re making up any excuse to get the hell away from the office. Doing laundry and playing servant to a new mother and a tiny poop machine must be fun by comparison.
I know it’s the private sector HR departments doing this here but I understand government is mandating it in other countries like in Europe.
Hey I just looked it up. Wow, it’s worse than I thought:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maternity_leave_in_the_United_States#Paternity_leave
Seriously? In Norway fathers can take almost a friggin YEAR off at 100% pay? YGBFSM
And we wonder why work ethic has fallen like a rock, and people don’t “make” anything anymore.
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I just looked at our policy. While FMLA requires unpaid leave, our firm provides 100% paid leave as follows:
“Birthing parent” (I shit you not): 12 weeks.
“Non-birthing parent”: 6 weeks.
He only took 4 weeks, so I guess I’m lucky. Smh.
Wow. So the words “mother” and “father” are offensive now?
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Wow. So the words “mother” and “father” are offensive now?
Yep, try to keep up
There is some phrase like parent without vagina or something like that.
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Wow. So the words “mother” and “father” are offensive now?
When my hospital systems ask which gender Someone identifies with, you know that science is thrown out the window, and we are just dealing with mental illness and sociology.
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My cousin gave birth early Sunday morning. I wouldn't be surprised if her husband worked today.
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When my hospital systems ask which gender Someone identifies with, you know that science is thrown out the window, and we are just dealing with mental illness and sociology.
What's worse than that is we are all forced to go along with their psychosis as if it's perfectly normal.
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Even worse, it’s doing serious damage to women. There is an alarming trend of young females thinking they are transgender. I was searching for the obit of the Baron pilot that crashed in CO, he lived in Green River WY. They haven’t published one but I found this one in the same town:
https://www.greenriverstar.com/story/2021/09/16/obituaries/mack-makayla-anne-kramer/8703.html
Curious how a healthy looking 19 year old girl died I googled her name and to my SHOCK found this:
https://jbrwdi.forumotion.com/t2337-teenage-white-female-to-male-transgender-obituaries
I listened to Jordan Peterson interview someone who is studying this phenomenon. She thinks it is not real, these are not true transgenders but being convinced by current gender bending insanity. I wonder how this young lady died.
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This is purposefull by our Marxist leaders with the MEDIA, Social Media, Education, Corporate America, Tech, etc in full blown propaganda support. More angst, confusion, unhappiness, dissatisfaction, all designed to weaken and divide.
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Wow. So the words “mother” and “father” are offensive now?
Birthing parent and non-birthing parent have been used in such policies for some time to differentiate between parents who actually give birth and those who don't. Non-birthing parents include fathers and mothers who adopt or use surrogates. While all birthing parents are mothers, not all mothers are birthing parents. And while all fathers are non-birthing parents, not all non-birthing parents are fathers. So substituting "mothers" and "fathers" would not reflect the same policy.
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Birthing parent and non-birthing parent have been used in such policies for some time to differentiate between parents who actually give birth and those who don't. Non-birthing parents include fathers and mothers who adopt or use surrogates. While all birthing parents are mothers, not all mothers are birthing parents. And while all fathers are non-birthing parents, not all non-birthing parents are fathers. So substituting "mothers" and "fathers" would not reflect the same policy.
That makes sense. But by that logic, if you adopt or use a surrogate you only get 6 weeks off instead of 12 even if you are the “mother”? 6 weeks is right when the baby starts smiling, mostly at mom because that’s who it sees the most. It’s the first real sign of recognition. So after 6 weeks of thankless round the clock feeding and diapering a thing that treats you with selfish indifference, just when you start reaping the rewards you turn it over to strangers. 12 weeks is no better, at 12 weeks the kid really starts differentiating mom from others and you start getting big payoffs.
Why are they assuming you need 12 weeks to recover from the physical process of giving birth? Absent complications 6 weeks is plenty sufficient. Or do they assume a “birthing parent” will breastfeed for 12 weeks? If you’re committed to breastfeeding you don’t stop at 12 weeks. I guess you’re supposed to pump at work and force the kid to learn a rubber bottle nipple and cart milk and equipment back and forth to the office. Who designs these nutty policies? Who thinks this is a good way to live? Who thinks this could possibly be good for the baby?