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15706
If the problem is that you're getting hung up on the law, how about if the President pardons all of them after the law is passed.  However you want to do it, a single pardon with 690,000 names on it or 690,000 individual pardons.  Now the Dreamers are excused from the law and the fact that they broke it is recognized and legally handled.  This is a legal path, 100% of the actions are authorized by US Law.

Or do you reject this and you aren't really about defending the Law?

 

15707
Re-read your post. Looks the same as before. No time for a back-and-forth on reading comprehension, so I'll just concede your point, whatever it was.


15708
Not entirely correct. There are federal laws regarding illegal entry, but not visa overstays, which are a civil infraction and constitute two thirds of the current flow.

 Reading comprehension issues again?  Reread my post you quoted.

That's a lame retort.  There are federal laws on the books that covers people who illegally enter the country. And the federal code cites penalties for the infractions of the laws.

 Start with U.S. Code › Title 8 › Chapter 12 › Subchapter II › Part VIII › § 1325

(a) Improper time or place; avoidance of examination or inspection; misrepresentation and concealment of facts
Any alien who (1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or (2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or (3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.

Then you can go to U.S. Code › Title 8 › Chapter 12 › Subchapter II › Part IV › § 1227

Then U.S. Code › Title 8 › Chapter 12 › Subchapter II › Part V › § 1253

15709
Hey you fuckin' piece of shit RINO, care to comment on the House's secret fund (paid for by taxpayers) that your congress used to pay off victims of sex abuse and harassment.  You know, the one you tried to keep secret?

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/laurettabrown/2018/02/14/paul-ryan-says-porter-incident-shows-white-house-needs-to-fix-their-vetting-system-n2449191

 The voters need to fix their vetting also and throw out career politicians such as Ryan.

15710
Rusty & Student Pilots / Re: Your CFI-I
« on: February 14, 2018, 09:23:46 AM »
Odd, I've never heard ATC ever tell aircraft where they will be diverted to.  I have heard ATC say " Airport is closed, say intentions".

15711
Well if we're going to ignore that there are varying levels of infractions and varying levels of consequences, why don't we just start executing people for speeding?

 That's a lame retort.  There are federal laws on the books that covers people who illegally enter the country. And the federal code cites penalties for the infractions of the laws.



 

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http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/13/keith-ellison-louis-farrakhan-nation-of-islam/

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Democratic Minnesota Rep. Keith Ellison, the deputy chair of the Democratic National Committee, has attended multiple meetings with Nation of Islam Minister Louis Farrakhan while in Congress, The Daily Caller has learned.

Ellison’s past ties to Farrakhan are well known: he admitted to The Washington Post during his first congressional campaign in 2006 that he worked with the Nation of Islam for approximately 18 months ahead of Farrakhan’s 1995 Million Man March. Since he ran for Congress, Ellison has repeatedly promised the public that he left Farrakhan in the past.

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http://www.nationalreview.com/article/456379/michael-flynn-guilty-plea-questions-raised-about-fbi-robert-mueller-investigation

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The judge who accepted Flynn’s guilty plea was Rudolph Contreras. Mysteriously, just days after taking Flynn’s plea, Judge Contreras recused himself from the case. The press has been remarkably uncurious about this development. No rationale for the recusal has been offered, no explanation for why, if Judge Contreras had some sort of conflict, the recusal came after the guilty plea, not before. We can note that Contreras is one of the eleven federal district judges assigned to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court. We do not know if Judge Contreras signed one or more of the FISA warrants the Justice Department sought for Trump campaign figures Carter Page and Paul Manafort (or even if signing a FISA warrant would constitute grounds for a conflict in Flynn’s case). We can note, however, that Contreras is one of just three FISA court judges who sits in the District of Columbia, where it is likely the Trump-Russia FISA warrants were sought. When Judge Contreras pulled out, Flynn’s case was reassigned to Judge Emmet G. Sullivan. We now know that one of Judge Sullivan’s first actions on the case was to file an order directing Mueller to provide Flynn with any evidence in the special counsel’s possession that is favorable to Flynn, whether on the issue of guilt or of sentencing. Significantly, the order stresses that if Mueller has such evidence but believes it is not “material” and therefore that Flynn is not entitled to disclosure of it, Mueller must show the evidence to the court so that Judge Sullivan may decide whether to mandate its disclosure. Could this provide General Flynn with factual grounds of which he was previously unaware to seek to have his plea vacated? Now, it could be that this is just Judge Sullivan’s standard order on exculpatory information, filed in every case over which he presides. But it is noteworthy that Flynn had already pled guilty, and in the course of doing so had agreed to Mueller’s demand that he waive “the right to any further discovery or disclosures of information not already provided” — in addition to forfeiting many other trial and appellate rights. (See plea agreement, pages 6–7.) It certainly appears that Sullivan’s order supersedes the plea agreement and imposes on the special counsel the obligation to reveal any and all evidence suggesting that Flynn is innocent of the charge to which he has admitted guilt. Could this provide General Flynn with factual grounds of which he was previously unaware to seek to have his plea vacated? Would he have a viable legal basis to undo the plea agreement that he and his lawyer signed on November 30? We do not know at this point.

15714
So were saying we want these people that haven't lifted a finger to become citizens and go to protests and wave the Mexican flag to just be allowed to stay?

 Yep.  They want priority and the front of the line.  And please don't expect the to pay for the privilege either!

15716
Spin Zone / Re: US military parade: Yea or nay?
« on: February 13, 2018, 04:07:22 PM »

15717
And here ya go:

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/chrisreeves/2018/02/13/court-blocks-trump-from-deporting-daca-recipients-n2448744

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New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman just announced that a judge has granted a preliminary injunction preventing President Trump from ending DACA by executive memorandum.

Schneiderman's suit against the Trump administration for ending DACA is largely based on the contention that the memo rescinding DACA was motivated by animus towards Mexicans for their national origin, as is explained by the original complaint filed by Schneiderman and the attorney generals of 16 other states back in September 2017.

 What a fuckin' joke......

15718
Well that's the rub. Some would say that amnesty for DACA folks is "right", because these are essentially people of our country. They grew up here, raised families here, had American kids, went to school here, served in the military here, etc.

'Lotta folks say - "but they broke the law to come here!" I actually don't find that argument especially compelling.

 So should we start offering amnesty for people who rob banks?  I mean, after all, all they are trying to do is provide for their families, send their kids to school, etc.  And some folks who rob banks actually served honorably in the military.

 Lotta folks say- "but he broke the law to rob the bank!"  I actually find that argument especially compelling.

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http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/13/keith-ellison-andre-carson-louis-farrakhan-iran-dinner/

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The ties between several congressional Democrats and Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan have already become a 2018 campaign issue.

Four different Democrats have either attended a private event with Farrakhan — a notorious anti-Semite who describes Jews as “Satanic” — or publicly expressed support for the hate group leader.

In the scandal’s most recent development, three Democratic congressmen were revealed to have attended a private dinner with Iranian President Hassan Rouhani and Farrakhan.

Minnesota Rep. and Democratic National Committee vice-chair Keith Ellison, New York Rep. Gregory Meeks and Indiana Rep. Andre Carson all reportedly attended the dinner, the details of which only became public last week.

15720
Spin Zone / Re: The Memo
« on: February 13, 2018, 11:37:55 AM »
http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/13/comey-obama-secret-meeting/

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FBI Director James Comey held a secret Oval Office meeting with President Barack Obama two weeks before Trump’s inauguration and may have deliberately misled Congress about it, according to an email sent by National Security Advisor Susan Rice that GOP Sens. Chuck Grassley and Lindsey Graham partially unclassified.

The meeting — which Comey never previously disclosed to Congress — occurred in the White House on Jan. 5, 2016. It included Obama, Vice President Joe Biden, Rice deputy Attorney General Sally Yates, and Comey. The topic of the meeting was potential Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.

By failing to inform the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence about the meeting in his June 8, 2017, testimony, Comey may have deliberately and intentionally misled Congress about his interactions with the former president, especially a meeting so close to Trump entering the White House.

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