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Well that's the rub. Some would say that amnesty for DACA folks is "right", because these are essentially people of our country. They grew up here, raised families here, had American kids, went to school here, served in the military here, etc.

'Lotta folks say - "but they broke the law to come here!" I actually don't find that argument especially compelling.

 So should we start offering amnesty for people who rob banks?  I mean, after all, all they are trying to do is provide for their families, send their kids to school, etc.  And some folks who rob banks actually served honorably in the military.

 Lotta folks say- "but he broke the law to rob the bank!"  I actually find that argument especially compelling.

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http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/13/keith-ellison-andre-carson-louis-farrakhan-iran-dinner/

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The ties between several congressional Democrats and Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan have already become a 2018 campaign issue.

Four different Democrats have either attended a private event with Farrakhan — a notorious anti-Semite who describes Jews as “Satanic” — or publicly expressed support for the hate group leader.

In the scandal’s most recent development, three Democratic congressmen were revealed to have attended a private dinner with Iranian President Hassan Rouhani and Farrakhan.

Minnesota Rep. and Democratic National Committee vice-chair Keith Ellison, New York Rep. Gregory Meeks and Indiana Rep. Andre Carson all reportedly attended the dinner, the details of which only became public last week.

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Spin Zone / Re: The Memo
« on: February 13, 2018, 11:37:55 AM »
http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/13/comey-obama-secret-meeting/

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FBI Director James Comey held a secret Oval Office meeting with President Barack Obama two weeks before Trump’s inauguration and may have deliberately misled Congress about it, according to an email sent by National Security Advisor Susan Rice that GOP Sens. Chuck Grassley and Lindsey Graham partially unclassified.

The meeting — which Comey never previously disclosed to Congress — occurred in the White House on Jan. 5, 2016. It included Obama, Vice President Joe Biden, Rice deputy Attorney General Sally Yates, and Comey. The topic of the meeting was potential Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.

By failing to inform the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence about the meeting in his June 8, 2017, testimony, Comey may have deliberately and intentionally misled Congress about his interactions with the former president, especially a meeting so close to Trump entering the White House.

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Spin Zone / Re: The Memo
« on: February 13, 2018, 08:27:03 AM »

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Spin Zone / Re: Report: GOP Senator Reconsidering His Plan to Retire
« on: February 13, 2018, 08:25:09 AM »
We've hit a very sad point when the Senate Majority Leader has a "R" after his name, and he is only interested in doing the business for the swamp dwellers, as well as using his position to trash other members of his party who will not tow the establishment agenda.

 With any luck this will be Mr. Turtle's last term.  He has hit bottom with the Ky voters.

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Spin Zone / Re: Sen. Mark Warner texted with Russian oligarch lobbyist
« on: February 13, 2018, 07:03:46 AM »
 And surprise!   More Clinton pals are being named in connection.


http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/12/dossier-investigation-links/

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The Republican-led investigation into the infamous anti-Trump dossier has recently revealed several intriguing links between Christopher Steele, lawyers, lobbyists, Democratic politicians, a former State Department official, and a Russian oligarch close to Vladimir Putin.

Most of the revelations come thanks to Sen. Chuck Grassley. The Iowa Republican released a letter in January that cited the names of several political operatives and lawyers who had not previously been linked to the dossier Steele wrote while on the payroll of the Clinton campaign and DNC.

And Thursday, a batch of text messages leaked to Fox News revealed that Steele used a back channel to communicate with Democratic Virginia Sen. Mark Warner, the top Democrat on the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence.


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Spin Zone / Report: GOP Senator Reconsidering His Plan to Retire
« on: February 13, 2018, 06:30:02 AM »
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2018/02/13/report-gop-senator-reconsiders-his-plan-to-retire-n2448388

 Translation:  Mitch McConnell will not tolerate having Blackburn as a Senator even though she is a Republican.  He knows Blackburn will call out his bullshit and that she is not a part of the swamp.

 Blackburn will win the election very easily in Tennessee, so the "fear" that the senate will lose this seat to the democrats is pure bullshit.  Watch for McConnell to spend $million$ in an attempt to defeat her.

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 Many years ago if someone would have tried to write a story of how a sitting president used his DoJ and FBI to spy on a presidential candidate by conspiring with his former SoS who was also running, it would have been met with disbelief.

 Throw in how actors in the DoJ such as the AG and the Deputy AG, along with the FBI Director used fraudulent information to manipulate a FISA court in obtaining a warrant, and also throw in how a Deputy AG signed a letter recommending the candidate, now President fire the FBI director for incompetence, then turn around and appoint a former FBI director and best friend of the fired Director as a Special Prosecutor.  Tell how that Special Prosecutor then hires a staff full of lawyers who have open disdain for the President.

 What Obama, Clinton, Comey, Rosenstein, McCabe and Mueller, along with many others, have done makes Watergate look like a high school prank.  We are witnessing a coup happening right in front of us, a coup that if it succeeds will have dramatic implications for this country to come. 

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http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/byron-york-comey-told-congress-fbi-agents-didnt-think-michael-flynn-lied/article/2648896

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According to two sources familiar with the meetings, Comey told lawmakers that the FBI agents who interviewed Flynn did not believe that Flynn had lied to them, or that any inaccuracies in his answers were intentional. As a result, some of those in attendance came away with the impression that Flynn would not be charged with a crime pertaining to the January 24 interview.

Nine months later, with Comey gone and special counsel Robert Mueller in charge of the Trump-Russia investigation, Flynn pleaded guilty to one count of making false statements to the FBI in that January 24 questioning.

What happened? With Flynn awaiting sentencing — that was recently delayed until at least May — some lawmakers are trying to figure out what occurred between the time Comey told Congress the FBI did not believe Flynn lied and the time, several months later, when Flynn pleaded guilty to just that.

None of those congressional investigators has an answer; they're baffled by the turn of events. But they know they find the Flynn case troubling, from start to finish.

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You just agreed with me, but I don't think you know it.

 It's interesting at times watching you attempt to come off as an intellectual.  A massive fail, but interesting.

 And yes, I was agreeing with you on the premise, but I still hold the position of not giving criminals a pass for breaking our laws and rewarding them with something we won't even give our own citizens or immigrants who chose to follow the law.

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As I said, this is how Republicans lose.

Amnesty without border reform is idiotic.  It was 40 years ago and it still is today.  Amnesty for children who have never known any other country is reasonable amnesty.

Build the wall.  Increase the penalties - make it illegal to be in the US without legal entry, make it extra bad if the person is PNG.   Increase the border control.  And then take DACA away from the Democrats and prove that they have no interest in solving the problem, they only have interest in having the problem.  For the next 50 years, Republicans get to say they are the heros.

Good strategy.  Too many fanatics will reject it, just like you all did here.

Guess you missed the part where the President offered the dims everything they wanted in DACA, and more.  And in return he asked for more border security (wall) and an end to chain migration and lottery immigration.

 The dims said no way, proving they don't give two shits for DACA. Not even one shit.

 And with this being an election year the republicans won't touch it.

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I agree. Sometimes you are dealt a hand, and this one has been dealt. By ensuring the wall, Trump can accomplish a goal without giving up much.  I really, really am pissed that he tripled the number of people considered dreamers. He could have narrowed that definition that anyone 21 or older wouldn’t qualify for any special treatment from other illegals. That would make future “dreamers” get their fucking act in order.

Keep in mind that Trump made that offer, an extremely generous one, and the dims turned their noses up at it.   He knew they would, and he rightfully showed everyone that the DACA is really just a pawn being manipulated by the dims.  IMO it was a brilliant move.

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So your (all of you) solution to DACA is to fall back on law and order and deport dreamers, letting the left "prove" that the right is just mean heartless bigots who hate mexicans.

This is why Republicans lose.

 OK, if we are going to reward people (non citizens) for breaking our laws, where does it stop?

 Also this country has a bad problem in giving amnesty to law breakers who break our laws by illegally entering our country.  So we give amnesty to the dreamers, the next group of criminals will come in knowing if they wait it out they too will get amnesty, eventually.

 So we screw over the immigrants who follow our laws and spend the time and money to do it correctly and reward those who openly break our laws.

 Please explain.

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The real fix to Congress is to get rid of the career politicians via term limits.

It's the career politicians (both parties) that have fucked everything up.

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DACA is not even a law, it was another BHO executive order to circumvent congress.

When the dims had control of the WH and congress they did.....nothing.  Nothing to put DACA into law or revise the current immigration laws.  Why?  Well, at that time it wasn't useful to them.

 Pelosi and the dims could give two shits about the "dreamers".  They are merely pawns to the progressive agenda.

 DACA is designed to reward criminals.  Let that sink in.  Here is an EO that gives a right to non citizens that is not available to citizens.  And it rewards them for crimes committed against our country.

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