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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: President-Elect Bob Noel on September 21, 2016, 07:28:22 AM
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My analytical nature leads me to consider how something well-intentioned could have negative unintended consequences.
In the news recently have a been at least a couple of instances where a teenager has been shot because he had a realistic looking toy gun. Let's ignore the fact that in one case the teenager ran from police and raised the toy firearm when cornered.
Naturally people are looking for solutions to this problem. And naturally one knee-jerk response is to ban realistic looking toy guns and replicas of firearms.
Putting aside the potential ban on training aides (albeit all the training aides I've seen are blue - but color is impossible to discern in low light situations), what could be an unintended consequence of not having toys looking like actual firearms?
1) How will they prevent someone from having a functioning firearm that looks like a toy?
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I've always thought that toy guns should be fluorescent colors and should not have moving parts and the barrel should be filled with a different fluorescent color.
Even this is too realistic
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/260994576109-0-1/s-l1000.jpg)
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1) How will they prevent someone from having a functioning firearm that looks like a toy?
To me, this is the key issue. What cop is going to bet his life that someone hasn't painted a real gun up to look like a toy? One obvious solution is (and always has been) for people to recognize that cops get nervous when they see you holding something (ANYTHING) and so don't do that. Keep your hands visible and follow orders.
Tim
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Do stupid stuff with toy guns, win stupid prizes like getting shot. Focus on the actions of the individual, not the inanimate object.
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I've always thought that toy guns should be fluorescent colors and should not have moving parts and the barrel should be filled with a different fluorescent color.
Even this is too realistic
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/260994576109-0-1/s-l1000.jpg)
Are would be BLM cop assassins too stupid to paint their weapon in a fluorescent color to "fool" the cop that they are about to kill?
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To me, this is the key issue. What cop is going to bet his life that someone hasn't painted a real gun up to look like a toy? One obvious solution is (and always has been) for people to recognize that cops get nervous when they see you holding something (ANYTHING) and so don't do that. Keep your hands visible and follow orders.
Tim
Also this. Keep your hands visible, immediately drop ANYTHING you're holding, and follow orders. They are making guns now that look like cell phones.
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Hmmm....is this one orange enough?
(http://www.pilotspin.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1379.0;attach=263;image)
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I'm thinking the pumpkin spice Glock isn't real, but it's been a minute since I've seen one and some of the finer details may escape me. Nevertheless, Glocks are a bit special because the outer shell on many of the models are synthetic material (Polymer IIRC) not metal like other brands.
Are would be BLM cop assassins too stupid to paint their weapon in a fluorescent color to "fool" the cop that they are about to kill?
Painted guns don't work very well. The "black" on the metal is done by a process called Bluing and it it's like powdercoat either. The heat from firing would cause issues, IF you could successfully get a round out of the chamber without blowing yourself up in the process. No thanks.
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I'm thinking the pumpkin spice Glock isn't real, but it's been a minute since I've seen one and some of the finer details may escape me. Nevertheless, Glocks are a bit special because the outer shell on many of the models are synthetic material (Polymer IIRC) not metal like other brands.
Painted guns don't work very well. The "black" on the metal is done by a process called Bluing and it it's like powdercoat either. The heat from firing would cause issues, IF you could successfully get a round out of the chamber without blowing yourself up in the process. No thanks.
Why wouldn't a painted gun work? Painting the outside of the barrel of a rifle or shotgun isn't going to cause it to blow up. Even painting the slide of a semi-auto handgun won't cause it to blow up. It might prevent the slide from cycling, but you will still get 1 shot off. You only have to worry about the gun blowing up if the barrel is blocked or over pressure in the chamber. Anybody can buy Cerakote or spray paint and give their guns a new color. It really depends on how well you want it to look and durability.
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Painted guns don't work very well. The "black" on the metal is done by a process called Bluing and it it's like powdercoat either. The heat from firing would cause issues, IF you could successfully get a round out of the chamber without blowing yourself up in the process. No thanks.
um...the colored parts of that gun don't get hot. The barrel and chamber get hot and those aren't painted.
edit: <sigh> I hate making tyops
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Painted guns don't work very well. The "black" on the metal is done by a process called Bluing and it it's like powdercoat either. The heat from firing would cause issues, IF you could successfully get a round out of the chamber without blowing yourself up in the process. No thanks.
I have several military, surplus guns that have "painted" finishes. Not all guns are blued. Many have painted, or polymer finishes, or are nickel, stainless steel, "tennifer", parkerized or other finishes. Paint is very common.
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I'm thinking the pumpkin spice Glock isn't real
Painted guns don't work very well.
Here is a painted gun that is, I can assure you, quite real:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8109/8500111049_a212279791_o.jpg
Tim
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I suspect the Glock was a blank firing demo gun, but I don't know that. However there's nothing that would prevent someone from making a real gun with the same coloring. The Hello Kitty AR is a good example. Additionally, you can print a gun on a 3d printer these days and they do fire. That can be any color your little heart cares to feed to the printer.
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Okay my statement was seriously typo laden. And I wasn't thinking about a pre-impregnated material, more of a home made type after thought paint job. I would not consider it safe nor durable.
Apologies for lack of clarity.
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I had a bike once with a painted exhaust, worked fine for years. Bike exhausts get hot enough to blue metal, too.
Someone tried to offer me firearms for my Goldwing, but I turned him down. Don't know enough about them to assess any kind of value, and I'm not at all interested in owning them.
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I'm not at all interested in owning them.
I pray you never live to regret that decision.
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I pray you never live to regret that decision.
The odds of my home being victim to some sort of armed incursion are laughably small. And I am not sufficiently stupid to risk my life defending insured property.
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The odds of my home being victim to some sort of armed incursion are laughably small. And I am not sufficiently stupid to risk my life defending insured property.
What are the odds of your house burning down? Do you carry homeowner's insurance?
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The odds of my home being victim to some sort of armed incursion are laughably small. And I am not sufficiently stupid to risk my life defending insured property.
I don't worry about property.
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The odds of my home being victim to some sort of armed incursion are laughably small. And I am not sufficiently stupid to risk my life defending insured property.
It's not the odds, it's the stakes. And it's less about defending insured property than defending your life. Just a few blocks from my mother's house someone entered the home of an elderly lady and killed her, then took her property. I can list many other stories close to me, including the young pregnant wife of my coworker, kidnapped, forced to get money from the ATM, then killed and her body dumped over a bridge into a river. THAT funeral was a heartbreaker. By the way, she was white, they were black, but that doesn't make me hate all blacks or go riot in the streets. It does alert me to the level of hatred from SOME blacks toward whites, but I don't discriminate; I'm equally alert to white threats. My brother was approached alone in a dark parking lot by men (white) who began to flank him with obvious ill intent. He let the breeze blow open his jacket to reveal his pistol, and they stopped, backed off and left. So you don't even need to USE a gun for it to save you. You don't even need to show it, hell, you don't even need to own one for gun rights to be protecting you. In areas where gun carry is legal your chance of being a victim is greatly reduced. You're welcome.
I can't tell you the exact odds of my ever needing a gun, but it's simple and easy enough insurance to have. If it ever happens, I am ready, and I will live to enjoy my grandchildren.
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^^^^^^^Spot on Rush, spot on. I am a pretty big male in good condition, and still able to move, but I still carry. If I were a women, I'd carry 24/7. It's like an insurance policy. I pray I will never need it. I respect those that don't trust themselves with a firearm. It is a very personal decision, but I don't appreciate those that don't trust themselves, and insist on projecting their weaknesses on those of us that do.
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There was a point where I was able to get solid numbers, and calculated that the odds of my having to defend myself against attack were orders of magnitude less than the firearm itself being involved in a tragedy in my home. I can no longer calculate these things as I can't get numbers in which I have any confidence.
Home invasion for the purpose of murder or assault is still vanishingly rare. There have been a couple in my fair metropolis, but all involved drug activity. The vast majority of firearm deaths involve people who know each other. Half are suicides. You are far more likely to die of mundane things, like traffic and household accidents, than you are from someone invading your domicile.
Oh, and in answer to all the comments. Yes, I have homeowners insurance, the bank was rather prickly on that point. I might even maintain it after I pay off the note. I have gas lines, meaning fire is always a possibility. Our water heater caught fire not long ago. I have lots of smoke detectors too. Lots of people get burned up in house fires, way way more than suffer assault during a home invasion.
I've even got an alarm, for the sole reason that Mrs. Steingar feels safer with it. I have to admit, I like the fact that it makes a very loud racket. Were I a home invader that would be enough to scare me off and find a house absent one.
If someone really wants to assault me they'll find it laughably easy. I walk 3 miles to and from work every day. I'm outside, unarmed and unarmored. But Steingar does not and will not live in fear.
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Steingar, airplanes cause many deaths each year and is a higher risk than not flying. Why would you risk flying? How does one mitigate those risks?
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I will not be a victim. I am trained, and keep proficient to protect myself. I don't live in fear because I know I can defend myself and family.
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If someone really wants to assault me they'll find it laughably easy. I walk 3 miles to and from work every day. I'm outside, unarmed and unarmored. But Steingar does not and will not live in fear.
People who carry guns don't have fear. They have a plan. Learn the difference.
To brag that you're walking around with no defense or protection, and you're unconcerned, "Here I am, a baby seal, come get me Orca!" To people who carry guns, that is what you look like, and it's not something brag worthy.
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If someone really wants to assault me they'll find it laughably easy. I walk 3 miles to and from work every day. I'm outside, unarmed and unarmored. But Steingar does not and will not live in fear.
It's good that you are relatively safe or at least feel safe. (I'm serious, not sarcastic)
But not everyone is in the same situation. Not everyone goes through life without being attacked or mugged.
For women in parts of this country, when they walk out a building they need to pay attention to shadows and dark corners. The keys will be in their hand for quick access to their car, and in case needed as a weapon. Some don't give it a second thought because it's standard operating procedure every time they leave every building.
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People who carry guns don't have fear. They have a plan. Learn the difference.
To brag that you're walking around with no defense or protection, and you're unconcerned, "Here I am, a baby seal, come get me Orca!" To people who carry guns, that is what you look like, and it's not something brag worthy.
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If you say so. Like I said, the vast majority firearm deaths occur between people who know each other. I don't routinely associate with firearm enthusiasts. I'll play the odds on this one.
In the meantime, to keep themselves safe firearm enthusiasts pay a cost. There is the cost of the firearm, its ammunition, its upkeep and the time it takes to stay proficient. That money and time could be used for exercise to stave off cardiovascular illness, which is orders of magnitude more likely to kill you than a firearm. Those resources could be used for other leisure activities to improve your mental state and lower your blood pressure. Stress-related diseases and stroke are orders of magnitude more likely to affect you than being shot with a firearm. And there is the possibility that you or someone in your household could suffer from a discharge of the firearm itself. You'll all tell me that will never happen, but then again I bet every last one of the 30,000 people who died last year from firearm discharge said the exact same thing.
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How many people have been saved by defensive use of firearms?
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To brag that you're walking around with no defense or protection, and you're unconcerned, "Here I am, a baby seal, come get me Orca!" To people who carry guns, that is what you look like, and it's not something brag worthy.
If you say so. Like I said, the vast majority firearm deaths occur between people who know each other. I don't routinely associate with firearm enthusiasts. I'll play the odds on this one.
In the meantime, to keep themselves safe firearm enthusiasts pay a cost. There is the cost of the firearm, its ammunition, its upkeep and the time it takes to stay proficient. That money and time could be used for exercise to stave off cardiovascular illness, which is orders of magnitude more likely to kill you than a firearm. Those resources could be used for other leisure activities to improve your mental state and lower your blood pressure. Stress-related diseases and stroke are orders of magnitude more likely to affect you than being shot with a firearm. And there is the possibility that you or someone in your household could suffer from a discharge of the firearm itself. You'll all tell me that will never happen, but then again I bet every last one of the 30,000 people who died last year from firearm discharge said the exact same thing.
There is a difference between firearm enthusiasts, and those who own guns for self defense or hunting. My neighbor owns over 250 firearms, but doesn't shoot. He's an enthusiast. I own personal firearms to hunt and have fun with. Going to the range is a great stress reliever and improves my mental state. Ammo isn't that expensive. Do I wish it was cheaper? Yep, along with avgas and annuals. Granted I get ammo from work to shoot my pistols, but I handload a lot of my other ammo. And my private range only costs me $45 a year, and an hour drive through the Wisconsin countryside is also a stress reducer. Barring some catastrophic malfunction, firearms just don't discharge without someone doing something wrong while handling it. And for the 30,000 people who died last year...since most firearm deaths are from suicide, I bet that those who did wanted it to happen to them.
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My gun club raised its rate to $100 a year. A Tiger costs $300 to fill the tanks, so staying proficient even with ammo costs, and I reload to save money, and tailor loads pales by comparison.
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There is a difference between firearm enthusiasts, and those who own guns for self defense or hunting. My neighbor owns over 250 firearms, but doesn't shoot. He's an enthusiast. I own personal firearms to hunt and have fun with. Going to the range is a great stress reliever and improves my mental state. Ammo isn't that expensive. Do I wish it was cheaper? Yep, along with avgas and annuals. Granted I get ammo from work to shoot my pistols, but I handload a lot of my other ammo. And my private range only costs me $45 a year, and an hour drive through the Wisconsin countryside is also a stress reducer. Barring some catastrophic malfunction, firearms just don't discharge without someone doing something wrong while handling it. And for the 30,000 people who died last year...since most firearm deaths are from suicide, I bet that those who did wanted it to happen to them.
To be honest, I think your firearm activities are all based on very good ideas. To me hunting is a great activity, one you can share with your family and even provide sustainable food. Target shooting is an awesome activity, though the one time I did it the shooting cost me the same as dinner at a pretty good restaurant or a weeks groceries for the Steinholme. That said, it was fun. And guns are beautiful objects full of history and technology, many manufactured right here in the USA. I can denigrate no one for collecting them.
Where I take exception is for those who expressly own their firearms for defense against home invaders. They're trying to tell me I need one for my self defense. I promise you the day I need one for my self defense is the day I move. And if I can find nowhere in the US where I can only find safety in carrying a firearm, I will become an expatriate.
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Where I take exception is for those who expressly own their firearms for defense against home invaders. They're trying to tell me I need one for my self defense. I promise you the day I need one for my self defense is the day I move. And if I can find nowhere in the US where I can only find safety in carrying a firearm, I will become an expatriate.
I own firearms mainly for target shooting. I used to also hunt, but haven't for years since I got spoiled from living in Colorado, and the outdoor environment there. However, even in my "nice' neighborhood, I know that HELL can come through the door or window at any moment. Do I live in fear? NO. Do I expect that to ever happen? NO. It is a possibility though, so I am prepared for it. I will not be a victim, or have me or my family held hostage, and/or murdered.
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To be honest, I think your firearm activities are all based on very good ideas. To me hunting is a great activity, one you can share with your family and even provide sustainable food. Target shooting is an awesome activity, though the one time I did it the shooting cost me the same as dinner at a pretty good restaurant or a weeks groceries for the Steinholme. That said, it was fun. And guns are beautiful objects full of history and technology, many manufactured right here in the USA. I can denigrate no one for collecting them.
Where I take exception is for those who expressly own their firearms for defense against home invaders. They're trying to tell me I need one for my self defense. I promise you the day I need one for my self defense is the day I move. And if I can find nowhere in the US where I can only find safety in carrying a firearm, I will become an expatriate.
It's a tool for a certain job. Hopefully a job that will never need doing. I'm a firm 2nd Amendment supporter, but I'm not a big fan of the NRA myself right now. Too much yelling "the sky is falling!", which is too many people as it is, and seems to be a lot of the home defense people. Do I have firearms for home defense? Yes. Right next to my bed. But some people are fanatics. If you need a firearm right next to all your doors, you might have an issue. I don't do well with people and their scare tactics, no matter what side of the political spectrum you are on.
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It's a tool for a certain job. Hopefully a job that will never need doing. I'm a firm 2nd Amendment supporter, but I'm not a big fan of the NRA myself right now. Too much yelling "the sky is falling!", which is too many people as it is, and seems to be a lot of the home defense people. Do I have firearms for home defense? Yes. Right next to my bed. But some people are fanatics. If you need a firearm right next to all your doors, you might have an issue. I don't do well with people and their scare tactics, no matter what side of the political spectrum you are on.
Well, if you knew what was going on in Massachusetts you would be worried too. Our AG, named Maura Healy has essentially reinterpreted MA already restrictive gun laws and essentially outlawed all semi-automatic rifles. Most feel she did this at the end of the legislative session in a ploy to get noticed by Washington should Hillary win, we are hoping the legislature shuts her down, but it is questionable that will happen as of now. It's tough to own guns here, if you own the wrong handgun, one that is not on the "approved" roster, it's a felony with up to a 10 year sentence. So yes, some of us are scared.
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Well, if you knew what was going on in Massachusetts you would be worried too. Our AG, named Maura Healy has essentially reinterpreted MA already restrictive gun laws and essentially outlawed all semi-automatic rifles. Most feel she did this at the end of the legislative session in a ploy to get noticed by Washington should Hillary win, we are hoping the legislature shuts her down, but it is questionable that will happen as of now. It's tough to own guns here, if you own the wrong handgun, one that is not on the "approved" roster, it's a felony with up to a 10 year sentence. So yes, some of us are scared.
My brother lives there. I've heard all about the laws. I bought my AR up there years ago, minus the flash suppresor, you know "because they make them more deadly and scary looking", and we can't have that ;). What the hell happened to that state? Pretty much they started the revolution by saying "Screw you" to overreaching government. Now look at them.
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My brother lives there. I've heard all about the laws. I bought my AR up there years ago, minus the flash suppresor, you know "because they make them more deadly and scary looking", and we can't have that ;). What the hell happened to that state? Pretty much they started the revolution by saying "Screw you" to overreaching government. Now look at them.
What happened to Mass? Boston happened, and academia happened. Almost the entire northeast is plagued by big city, progressive, anti American attitudes. Let's face it. America is under siege, especially our 2A rights.
Why does a flash suppressor, or a bayonet lug, or pistol grip make a rifle more dangerous than another rifle? These rifles are rarely used in crime. Gang bangers, and drug dealers typically use hand guns that they obtain illegally, and that's where most of the murders occur. It is not law abiding gun owners, with legally owned guns, but that's what these stupid laws restrict.
The politicians WANT to restrict the law abiding because that is what gives them power over us. It is purely a power game for them. They do not want us to have the ability to resist their will. Washington DC is worse than England when we were a colony.
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In the meantime, to keep themselves safe firearm enthusiasts pay a cost. There is the cost of the firearm, its ammunition, its upkeep and the time it takes to stay proficient. That money and time could be used for exercise to stave off cardiovascular illness, which is orders of magnitude more likely to kill you than a firearm. Those resources could be used for other leisure activities to improve your mental state and lower your blood pressure. Stress-related diseases and stroke are orders of magnitude more likely to affect you than being shot with a firearm.
That's actually a very good point with which I agree, if the costs in time and money were comparable, and I were poor enough that I couldn't have both.
Then I would need to weigh the stakes as well as the odds. Lets say the odds of me dying from a heart attack are very high, lets even say they are 100%, I'll give you that. If I don't spend money on gym membership and instead become a "gun enthusiast", then the odds are 100% I will die of a heart attack anywhere between age 45 and 90. Let's say I am a young woman and the odds of me being murdered are very low, but if it does happen, I get to suffer prolonged torture and rape before I die.
Let's see, what to do? Just how small would the odds need to be before I'd chance the torture session and losing from 25 to 70 years of my life? Okay you make a fair point, I'll grant you that there is some number low enough. But I am also going to have to include the odds of me being in a natural disaster where the thugs from the inner city swarm out like cockroaches and loot my neighborhood. Then you have to add the odds of being in a convenience store when it's robbed, or a bank, or in a mall when the next jihadist goes whacko. And the odds that the neighbor's pack of pit bulls will get loose. And so on.
The odds of any one of these things hurting or killing me is very small, but the cumulative odds of something happening which would make me wish I had a gun, is not so small. Maybe still small, but not infinitesimal, and the stakes of the worst of them are SO very high, that I think on balance I need to take my heart attack. But I don't need to make that choice. I can afford my gun AND get good healthcare, so it's a no brainer. In this case, why wouldn't I want to be ready to defend myself?
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When the topic is self defense, Steingar is extreme in his views. The idea that no one should have the right to protect their home or property is indelibly imprinted on his psyche and from it he derives a twisted sense that if someone wishes to take every thing you own, you have a legal obligation to let them. The cowardice and blindness of someone so indoctrinated is so pervasive that intelligent reason is a waste of time.
As a deeply deluded progressive, Steingar represents a cadre of people who lack the ability to understand that that type of action invites far greater invasion against the individual. He and those like him can't see that the current violence in Charlotte and other places was a direct result of policies that excuse such anti-social behavior and encourage it to the point that escalation was inevitable.
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That's actually a very good point with which I agree, if the costs in time and money were comparable, and I were poor enough that I couldn't have both.
Then I would need to weigh the stakes as well as the odds. Lets say the odds of me dying from a heart attack are very high, lets even say they are 100%, I'll give you that. If I don't spend money on gym membership and instead become a "gun enthusiast", then the odds are 100% I will die of a heart attack anywhere between age 45 and 90. Let's say I am a young woman and the odds of me being murdered are very low, but if it does happen, I get to suffer prolonged torture and rape before I die.
Please do remember that we're talking orders of magnitude here. The odds on your dying young of heart disease range from even money to double digits depending on the shape in which you keep yourself. Spending the firearm money on a gym membership that you use will statistically extend your life by a fair margin.
Let's see, what to do? Just how small would the odds need to be before I'd chance the torture session and losing from 25 to 70 years of my life? Okay you make a fair point, I'll grant you that there is some number low enough. But I am also going to have to include the odds of me being in a natural disaster where the thugs from the inner city swarm out like cockroaches and loot my neighborhood.
In a natural disaster whoever wants it can have my shit. My crap is worth neither dying nor killing for. I don't care, the emphasis is getting means mine out of the disaster zone as quickly as possible. Thankfully where I live the wx is unpleasant but not deadly, and I am in a zone that is seismically stable.
Then you have to add the odds of being in a convenience store when it's robbed, or a bank, or in a mall when the next jihadist goes whacko. And the odds that the neighbor's pack of pit bulls will get loose. And so on.
Than you have to add the odds that you can't shoot straight in an emergency. Don't believe me? Try this:
The odds of any one of these things hurting or killing me is very small, but the cumulative odds of something happening which would make me wish I had a gun, is not so small. Maybe still small, but not infinitesimal, and the stakes of the worst of them are SO very high, that I think on balance I need to take my heart attack. But I don't need to make that choice. I can afford my gun AND get good healthcare, so it's a no brainer. In this case, why wouldn't I want to be ready to defend myself?
Like I said, I once had reliable numbers saying your odds of suffering a firearm tragedy are higher than your odds of a home invasion of the sort that will harm you (keep in mind most "home invasions" are burgers looking for a quick and uncomplicated score). I don't have the numbers anymore, but my guess is if you don't live in a war zone and don't do or sell drugs, the odds on your home being invaded by someone who wants to harm you are laughably small and simply don't justify the investment and upkeep of a firearm. Moreover, any home that has small children and firearms laying about loaded (a prerequisite for home defense) is just asking for tragedy.
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Please do remember that we're talking orders of magnitude here. The odds on your dying young of heart disease range from even money to double digits depending on the shape in which you keep yourself. Spending the firearm money on a gym membership that you use will statistically extend your life by a fair margin.
In a natural disaster whoever wants it can have my shit. My crap is worth neither dying nor killing for. I don't care, the emphasis is getting means mine out of the disaster zone as quickly as possible. Thankfully where I live the wx is unpleasant but not deadly, and I am in a zone that is seismically stable.
Than you have to add the odds that you can't shoot straight in an emergency. Don't believe me? Try this:
Like I said, I once had reliable numbers saying your odds of suffering a firearm tragedy are higher than your odds of a home invasion of the sort that will harm you (keep in mind most "home invasions" are burgers looking for a quick and uncomplicated score). I don't have the numbers anymore, but my guess is if you don't live in a war zone and don't do or sell drugs, the odds on your home being invaded by someone who wants to harm you are laughably small and simply don't justify the investment and upkeep of a firearm. Moreover, any home that has small children and firearms laying about loaded (a prerequisite for home defense) is just asking for tragedy.
Proof concealed carry permit holders save lives part 1:
http://dailycaller.com/2016/06/30/concealed-carry-holder-stopped-a-nightclub-shooting-and-the-media-ignored-it/
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I don't care, the emphasis is getting means mine out of the disaster zone as quickly as possible.
Have you ever actually been in a natural disaster? Do you think you're going to just put your family in the car and drive away? Do you really think looters are only after your shit? Do you imagine they won't rape your 14 year old daughter?
Than you have to add the odds that you can't shoot straight in an emergency. Don't believe me? Try this:
So? "Real life gun fights are nothing like video games." "You're no good without training." Is this supposed to be news to me? The real sheepdog (like me) gets intensive training in civilian self defense and stays "current and proficient" by shooting IDPA or other matches, that are specifically tailored for civilian self defense scenarios. Match shooters are better trained than many police officers and WAY better than the average criminal. This video is biased as hell, obviously meant to convince us not to even think about having firearms for our own defense. They give no information of how to get proper training, and they promote the lie that the safest way to behave with a shooter is to run or hide or play dead. (Don't try to shoot him yourself, no! Let him continue on and slaughter 30 more people. This is a f*cking disgusting thing to teach people.) The cases where a civilian firearm is used to stop a crime are portrayed as flukes when they are nothing of the kind, they mention them only because social media now lets us all know about it, something that didn't happen when media controlled all the news, so they must admit it to then dismiss it, and they make no mention whatsoever of how many crimes are prevented by the fact that civilians carry guns whether or not they've any training or skill in their use at all. What an irresponsible piece of trash. This kind of thing is used to brainwash people into giving up their right to defend themselves.
Getting people to give up their right to defend themselves, getting them to believe that they cannot successfully fight an attacker, by law or by ability - do you know what that is? That is what we did to black slaves. That is what they did to the Jews in Germany. That is called Evil. People who deny you the right to defend your own life with technology equal to what criminals commonly have (guns) are Evil. Because they strive to weaken the innocent and leave the advantage to killers, rapists and thugs.
Like I said, I once had reliable numbers saying your odds of suffering a firearm tragedy are higher than your odds of a home invasion of the sort that will harm you (keep in mind most "home invasions" are burgers looking for a quick and uncomplicated score). I don't have the numbers anymore, but my guess is if you don't live in a war zone and don't do or sell drugs, the odds on your home being invaded by someone who wants to harm you are laughably small and simply don't justify the investment and upkeep of a firearm. Moreover, any home that has small children and firearms laying about loaded (a prerequisite for home defense) is just asking for tragedy.
Oh Lord I typed out a long response to this and the computer started screwing up so I'm letting well enough alone and quitting. :)
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I know Rush and her husband. They are good people. They are also VERY Smart people.
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I know Rush and her husband. They are good people. They are also VERY Smart people.
Oh my gosh, you are a sweetie pie, you made my day! :D
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Oh my gosh, you are a sweetie pie, you made my day! :D
It's the truth! :)
Glad to do it!