PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Lucifer on November 16, 2017, 09:22:31 AM
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So Frankin needs to resign from the senate immediately.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/christinerousselle/2017/11/16/sen-al-franken-accused-of-groping-radio-host-n2410364
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So Frankin needs to resign from the senate immediately.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/christinerousselle/2017/11/16/sen-al-franken-accused-of-groping-radio-host-n2410364
I was just about to post that!
He doesn't need to resign. He needs to be expelled from the Senate. This even happened in the current century, unlike the Moore, Trump, Cain, etc charges.
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Nothing will happen. He’s a left wing loon, all is forgiven.
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But wait - he's sorry, and he's a liberal. So that's ok, no harm and no foul.
This is the double standard that passes for ethics.
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It's amusing to see the convoluted logic of the readers on the Huffington Post. It's photoshopped. It's air-groping since you can see a shadow. It's over a flak vest so there's no sex involved so it's not groping. He wasn't a senator yet so it's OK. Sheesh. In my mind, even if it's air-groping it's still sexual assault.
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https://townhall.com/tipsheet/micahrate/2017/11/16/here-are-nine-times-when-sen-al-franken-condemned-sexual-assault-harassment-n2410385
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https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2017/11/16/mcconnell-demands-ethics-investigation-on-franken-n2410416
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I think we are witnessing the second sexual revolution.
I liked the first one better when girls were burning their bras.
I don't in any way, shape or form defend sexual assault, but I can see the day when men are afraid to make a pass at a woman.
If we want to be able to take charges against these guys seriously, then the penalty for making false charges needs to be much more severe.
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I think we are witnessing the second sexual revolution.
I liked the first one better when girls were burning their bras.
I don't in any way, shape or form defend sexual assault, but I can see the day when men are afraid to make a pass at a woman.
If we want to be able to take charges against these guys seriously, then the penalty for making false charges needs to be much more severe.
The problem is that there is no resolution. There is no ability to understand whether the charges were false or not. It's all just he said she said, unless the accused admits wrongdoing.
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https://townhall.com/tipsheet/christinerousselle/2017/11/16/sen-al-franken-issues-longer-apology-says-hell-cooperate-in-ethics-probe-n2410440
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The problem is that there is no resolution. There is no ability to understand whether the charges were false or not. It's all just he said she said, unless the accused admits wrongdoing.
Agreed,
But we need something better than what we have today (ie. Democrats believe Democrats and nobody believes Republicans).
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Based on the information that's come out, he should resign immediately. An ethics probe isn't good enough. We should be holding our politicians to the same standard across the board, regardless of their party affiliation.
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Based on the information that's come out, he should resign immediately. An ethics probe isn't good enough. We should be holding our politicians to the same standard across the board, regardless of their party affiliation.
He should, but he won’t.
The senate will do an ethics probe, he’ll get a wrist slap and all will be forgotten.
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He should, but he won’t.
The senate will do an ethics probe, he’ll get a wrist slap and all will be forgotten.
I'm not so sure right now. Given the amount of allegations across the board, and in particular the Roy Moore issue, the Democrats may have just boxed themselves into a corner. Either let this go with Al Franken or look like hypocrites and anti-women in the midterms and beyond. I can already see the GOP ads.
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I'm not so sure right now. Given the amount of allegations across the board, and in particular the Roy Moore issue, the Democrats may have just boxed themselves into a corner. Either let this go with Al Franken or look like hypocrites and anti-women in the midterms and beyond. I can already see the GOP ads.
We’ll see, but I’m not counting on it. He’s a wacko progressive, the media will bury it. The senate will censure him and then it’s over. The retort will be “Well he was punished for it”.
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He should have been banned from public service, and the public venue JUST for his horrible comedic career. What a loser! Minnesota must be a communist hell hole to elect this fraud.
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We’ll see, but I’m not counting on it. He’s a wacko progressive, the media will bury it. The senate will censure him and then it’s over. The retort will be “Well he was punished for it”.
I understand where you're going with this, because that's how it usually works and usually I'd agree. But given the amount of people coming forward right now I think the tides are turning, at least on this issue. If he resigns or is expelled or is recalled (is that possible in MN?) then the Democrats will try and claim the moral high ground. "See? We took care of this issue and yet the Republicans still can't get Roy Moore out of the race!"
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He stole the seat thru vote fraud, so he is already among those not rightfully in office.
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I want to be his Rep opponent in the next senate race. That pic of him groping the girl would be EVERYWHERE. I would buy every billboard in the state for the election time, and paste it up there with some nasty caption; "YOUR senator????" or "Sexual assault is not funny, Al". It would be glorious.
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I want to be his Rep opponent in the next senate race. That pic of him groping the girl would be EVERYWHERE. I would buy every billboard in the state for the election time, and paste it up there with some nasty caption; "YOUR senator????" or "Sexual assault is not funny, Al". It would be glorious.
You obviously haven’t spent any time in Minnesota.
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You obviously haven’t spent any time in Minnesota.
My kid went to UofM, and graduated from there in 2014. I used to go once in a while, but not since then. Claim to fame - I was stuck in a Holiday Inn the wknd the superdome caved in the last time from snow. We were stuck for 2 days because the planes couldn't get people out fast enough. I had to split my room with another couple who were also stuck. It was a snowy year.
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http://www.thecrimson.com/article/1976/4/16/live-from-new-york-its-al/
He recalled writing a skit called "Seamen on Broadway" that was rejected from the Hasty Pudding show "by some preppie so they could take some other preppie's skit." Franken started to smile again, but his tone was serious, too serious. "It's not preppies, cause I'm a preppie myself. I just don't like homosexuals. If you ask me, they're all homosexuals in the Pudding. Hey, I was glad when that Pudding homosexual got killed in Philadelphia." The smile became so broad it pushed his eyes shut. He couldn't stand it any longer. "Put that in, put that in," Franken laughed, leaning over the desk. "I'd love to see that in The Crimson."
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https://mediaequalizer.com/brian-maloney/2017/11/melanie-morgan-after-tv-appearance-al-franken-harassed-me-too
Immediately raising questions about double-standards in the media and on Capitol Hill, a Los Angeles radio news anchor today accused Senator Al Franken (D-MN) of sexually assaulting her.
Now, Media Equalizer Co-Founder Melanie Morgan has come forward as well, recounting her own experience with the onetime comedian, liberal radio host and activist. Morgan’s disturbing encounter was sparked by daring to disagree with Franken during an August, 2000 edition of ABC’s Politically Incorrect with Bill Maher.
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http://www.twincities.com/2008/06/04/gop-criticize-franken-over-rape-joke-in-1995-article/
The Republican Party’s latest release from the archives of Democratic Senate candidate Al Franken’s past is a 13-year-old New York Magazine description of a Saturday Night Live writers’ meeting.
During the meeting, writers are brainstorming about how to develop a sketch in which one of the actors plays “60 Minutes” commentator Andy Rooney, who finds an empty pill bottle in his desk.
According to the article, Franken’s suggestion includes Rooney saying: “I give the pills to Leslie Stahl. Then when Leslie is passed out, I take her to the closet and rape her. Or ‘That’s why you never see Lesley until February. Or, ‘When she passes out. I put her in various positions and take pictures of her.’ ”
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(https://peopledotcom.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/al-daily-affirmation.jpg)
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But wait - he's sorry, and he's a liberal. So that's ok, no harm and no foul.
This is the double standard that passes for ethics.
And that's why the Senate Ethics committee wants to do an "investigation." So they can say that he's sorry, thus no ethics violation.
It's not a swamp, it's a sewer.
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Unless I missed something, the second account of Melanie Morgan isn't sexual harassment or assault, it's just Franken being a jerk. The article I read didn't mention any passes made at her or physical contact with her, but rather them having an argument and then him being a jerk by following her around backstage and demanding a producer give him her home phone number.
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Unless I missed something, the second account of Melanie Morgan isn't sexual harassment or assault, it's just Franken being a jerk. The article I read didn't mention any passes made at her or physical contact with her, but rather them having an argument and then him being a jerk by following her around backstage and demanding a producer give him her home phone number.
Did you see the picture of him putting his hands on her (clothed) breasts while she was asleep?
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Franken said that he doesn’t know “what was in my head when I took that picture,” but said that “it doesn't matter.”
Well, in context, he didn't kill an ambassador and other long time FSOs. So I guess 'it doesn't matter' only works if you are a senator, sec of state, high ranking govt empl. Of course, if you or I did ANYTHING remotely like this we would be walked out the door by security, and out stuff would be tossed on the curb.
Regulations are for thee, not for me - so says the liberals. And comparing this to unfounded and long ago accusations from a teen girl about a senator is absolutely ludicrous. (and not the singer either)
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Did you see the picture of him putting his hands on her (clothed) breasts while she was asleep?
That was the first chick.
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I’m sure that wrist slap that the senate will impose will be brutal, just brutal.
Then it’s back to business.
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Ruh-roh, the Frankenstein act is gathering steam.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11/17/will-franken-survive-senator-faces-calls-to-resign-ethics-probe-scorn-colleagues.html
Calls for resignation are rumbling.
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Ruh-roh, the Frankenstein act is gathering steam.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11/17/will-franken-survive-senator-faces-calls-to-resign-ethics-probe-scorn-colleagues.html
Calls for resignation are rumbling.
Won’t happen.
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Oh I'm certain he won't voluntarily leave.
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Right, he worked so hard to steal his seat to be called "Mister".
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https://conservativetribune.com/every-dem-pres-candidate-for-25/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=TeaParty&utm_content=2017-11-16&utm_campaign=ttp
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He must have gotten the shit kicked out of him in high school.
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WATCH: Al Franken Joked About Child Rape At Comedy Central Event
"Carl started inviting many of his famous friends to f*** his son."
http://www.dailywire.com/news/23669/watch-al-franken-joked-about-child-rape-comedy-ryan-saavedra?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=062316-news&utm_campaign=benshapiro
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Oh I'm certain he won't voluntarily leave.
The senate won't expel him either. Sen Franken is in the elite class, so the normal rules and laws the rest of us must follow don't apply to people in his class.
The senate will vote to censure him and that will be it, a slap on the wrist. And unfortunately the people of Minnesota will reelect him back to congress.
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It does put sleazy Mitch McConnell in a spot because of how he attacked Judge Roy Moore.
I can't wait until he goes after Al the way he went after Roy.
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It does put sleazy Mitch McConnell in a spot because of how he attacked Judge Roy Moore.
I can't wait until he goes after Al the way he went after Roy.
Don't hold your breath.
Sure, McConnell and thr rest of the establishment will make a lot of noise, but at the end of the day it will be forgotten and nothing will change.
Laws and rules are for the little people, not the establishment elites.
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(https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/gmc15411920171117075000.jpg)
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I expect this weekend a "breaking news" story that will push the Franken story off the front page.
Perhaps Mueller is preparing to indict a key Trump campaign person, such as the janitor at Trump Tower because they have evidence the janitor drinks White Russians.
Cable news will run with it 24/7.
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Second accuser. No graphics this time.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11/20/second-woman-alleges-al-franken-groped-her.html
If Moore did it, then Franken did it. If Moore didn't do it, then Franken didn't do it. Right?
Oh wait - one of them acknowledged the groping, and gave a self-serving 'apology' (Franken immediately apologized, saying he felt "disgusted with myself"), because - of course, it's all about Al Franken. BTW, he used to do a self-centered skit on SNL that was EXACTLY like his goofy statement.
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Second accuser. No graphics this time.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11/20/second-woman-alleges-al-franken-groped-her.html
If Moore did it, then Franken did it. If Moore didn't do it, then Franken didn't do it. Right?
I know you are being facetious, but, no that is not right. One doesn't lead to the other.
Oh wait - one of them acknowledged the groping, and gave a self-serving 'apology' (Franken immediately apologized, saying he felt "disgusted with myself"), because - of course, it's all about Al Franken. BTW, he used to do a self-centered skit on SNL that was EXACTLY like his goofy statement.
In one case there are pictures and an apology. He should resign, or be forced out.
In the other case, there are numerous people making charges, but there is no substantiation, no evidence (that have seen) and no admission.
That said, I personally believe Moore is guilty, but that carries exactly zero weight. If any incontrovertible evidence does show up, or if Moore make an admission, then I hope he doesn't have a chance to volunteer to resign. I want him kicked out head first, and then face any applicable charges.
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I know you are being facetious, but, no that is not right. One doesn't lead to the other.
In one case there are pictures and an apology. He should resign, or be forced out.
It was written firmly tongue in cheek. It is, of course an illogical tautology. 8)