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Spin Zone / Re: SCOTUS rules for Colorado Baker
« on: June 05, 2018, 07:21:38 AM »
How about if we have a guideline that says nobody will tell someone else what to think, even if it means they get offended?  How about if we have guidelines that state that everyone is free to act on their own conscience and nobody will ever be forced to serve another? 

Or if you are in favor of compelling service, how will you limit that to avoid slavery?  I see no difference between compelling an unwanted business transaction and slavery.  I define slavery as compelled service with inadequate compensation given the repulsive nature of the service.  That seems to fit what Colorado forced on Phillips, complete with the whipping for non compliance.
Exactly. Avoiding offense is the road to destruction. Political correctness kills. Human flourishing requires conflict and its resolution. Removal of conflict, a life force, results in death. It will be interesting to see what happens to Starbucks now that they have removed the critical and appropriate boundaries between paying customers and literally everyone else. And so on down the road of no offending.

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Spin Zone / Re: The gift that keeps giving
« on: May 24, 2018, 07:30:18 AM »
After President Trump finishes his second term, we can look forward to the two terms of President Pence.

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Spin Zone / Re: What price/incovenience to avoid shopping Amazon?
« on: May 22, 2018, 06:51:22 PM »
I have a three party, post-dated check, written on a napkin in crayon, drawn on a Somali bank. I'll send it right over, and you can give us said valuable consideration once it's in your hands.

(tongue firmly in cheek) 8)

Ignoring for a moment your fairly loose definition of Cold, Hard Cash, and if it's all the same to you, I'd like to do something different. I have a personal check made out for ten thousand dollars US (10 000). This check was intended to be a donation to an LGBTQIA adult orphanage overseas, which by happenstance I learned of while watching Current TV, and was heartstruck by the plight of the poor souls and their parent-less journey of sexual discoveries therefore-and-of. Unfortunately, I later discovered that this charity was a scam, and quite a dirty.

However, I cannot stomach the idea that a tree gave its life-force to create the paper upon which this check is printed (I Didn't Build That, the tree did), and since I haven't as of yet filled out the payable line due to awaiting a call from the orphanage for disclosure of their corporate and fictitious nomenclatures, I'd like to make it payable to one Ser Mr invflatspin ('ihnvurted flaht spihn'). I do this in recognition of the fine opportunity you have given me to spokespers (verb) in front of you and your great brethren on this usenet server. All I ask is that you cash this cheque post-haste, and wire to me without delay a sum of money equal only to my small spokesperson fee of ten and a half hundred dollars US (10 1/2 100). The rest you may keep for your services and hospitality, on behalf of my country the US of America, Florida.

Kindly pardon me for the intrusion, and I look forward to indication of your interest.

Sincerely,

Robert Baratheon Bartholomew Tema II ("Bob")

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Spin Zone / Re: Boulder CO ignores 2nd A, goes hard left on guns
« on: May 17, 2018, 10:36:43 AM »
There's no judge in Boulder CO county that will entertain a personal lawsuit against a sitting counsel man unless they did something pretty outrageous.

You mean like mass deprivation of civil rights?

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I don't think it's extreme at all.  Democrats have been unbelievably hostile to every Trump nominee so far.  They have blocked or delayed almost everyone, then they complain that Trump hasn't filled all the seats yet.  While Trump is trying to navigate real problems, like North Korea stabilization, China Trade, Russian interference in Syria and all the other problems, he is having to fight Democrats and Never-Trumpers on every front.  Then, while he fighting off all their partisan attacks, they are accusing him of creating chaos in the white house.  Trump, and America, are suffering death by a thousand cuts from the Democrats.  I just hope he get a few more judges seated before the Dems succeed in destroying him and us.
Your argument is that Trump is fighting the good fight and everyone else is just standing in his way? I hope you can recognize that some, and certainly not all, of the problems inside the White House are Trump's own doing through his tweets, his changing statements on subjects, etc.

Attempting to block or otherwise stall nominations is called politics and that's always the way it is. The Republicans control the Senate so any stalling on judicial nominations is on them, not the Democrats. America isn't "suffering death by a thousand cuts from the Democrats" either. Our system was intentionally designed to make it difficult to get things done. I just don't buy this narrative that Trump is an angel everyone else who isn't 100% on board is just part of the problem. That kind of thinking limits debate and would have Republicans up in arms (as it has in the past) if it were a Democratic president (read: Obama's now infamous "pen and phone" comments).

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Two guys in my neighborhood just bought new Ford trucks. One told me the dealer said 85% of his sales are trucks. Personally, I feel encouraged about our country when people, especially men, buy trucks. The spindly man-bun gammas in their Priuses creep me out.

Go after me, libs! I don't care!


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I wish this pink would decide if he’s an adult and is the “expert” on gun control (his word), or if he’s a wilting child able to be offended as such.

It sounds like he’s an adult when he’s dictating the terms of the debate and verbally eviscerating anyone who disagrees with him, but he’s a child when someone criticizes his diatribes.

Can’t have it both ways, Sparky. 

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Spin Zone / Re: Damn Donald, damn
« on: March 23, 2018, 06:27:34 PM »
this is Ryan's SECOND trillion dollar waste and spend bill.

When he was elected speaker, he instantly rushed one through and CLAIMED he was only doing it so that he could carefully construct a superior budget bill that would prioritize needs and cut waste.

Then he did what swamp dwellers do. He lied out his ass and spent like a drunken sailor.

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Spin Zone / Re: The Yuugest PPV of All Time
« on: March 22, 2018, 11:17:09 AM »
Thunderdome

Two politicians enter, none leave! (In an ideal world.)

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Spin Zone / Re: A Liberal's Concept of Free Speech
« on: March 16, 2018, 07:50:03 AM »
So are you saying now there should have been arrests?
Just a couple of statements that I think we would all agree on:

If someone beats on someone else, short of self defense, they should be arrested.
If Conservatives are arrested for a certain type of actions, then Liberals should be arrested if they participate in the same type of action.

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Spin Zone / Re: Progressives are progressing toward...what?
« on: March 16, 2018, 06:28:37 AM »
"Progressive" is just a cloak for "communist".

  Calling themselves communist has bad perception to it, so they use "progressive" because it evokes something positive.

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Spin Zone / Re: On gun control.
« on: March 03, 2018, 07:29:21 PM »
Of course I recognize the MSM gives the left a pass.  They only did a little last time because it was unbelievable ever state that it wasn't Schumer's fault.

And yes, I do blame the Republicans for not compromising on anything.  They don't recognize the position they're in.  They refuse to recognize what could be gained in order to "protect" a bunch of stuff that probably isn't as important.  They refuse to exploit an opponent's weakness if it means giving up anything.

This is what I fault them on.  They're going to take their righteous right into losing power.
Sorry B, I think you may be suffering from some kind of confirmation bias here, the R's give ALL the time, otherwise we would not have 22,000 Federal, State and Local gun laws instead of 'shall not be infringed'; we would not have abortion on demand instead of a respect for life; we would not have Sanctuary Cities (and States, fuck I hate living in California); we would not have people not knowing which fucking bathroom or personal pronoun to use; we would not have bakers being sued for refusing to bake a gay wedding cake, and we would not have gay marriage; we would not have DoD paying for sex change operations/hormones for incarcerated traitors; and so on and so on and fucking so on.

THIS is the big lie, that one side, the Conservative side, does not compromise, they have compromised after compromise.  The real issue is even their capitulation is not ever going to be enough because the left wants uniformity of thought and belief and action.

Obama for example was not rejected and opposed as strenuously as he was because of the color of his skin, it was the color of his politics.

The middle has had enough and Trump is the symptom, not the cause.  The vast majority of people do not care anywhere near as much as about politics in the whole as we do here - they care about individual things in their individual lives, paying bills, being healthy, being left alone, etc. 

But, there are issues that resonate with them deeply, being called racist over and over when there is ZERO evidence to support such a vile and destructive claim, being called deplorable, being blamed for events that they have literally nothing to do with, and starting off consistently in any discussion on their back foot and on defense because of the constant attack dog nature of our politics.  They, we, have had fucking enough and are not going to take it anymore.

The R's have been incredibly ineffective as both a minority and majority party for the past several decades not because they don't give enough, but because they never really fight at all.

'Gimp

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Spin Zone / Re: On gun control.
« on: March 01, 2018, 02:16:10 PM »
How about a ban on whatever meds this (latest) kid was on?

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Spin Zone / Re: US Women’s Hockey - Gold!
« on: February 26, 2018, 01:02:15 PM »
Respectfully, what you did was judge her one a single action.  If I did the same to you, then I'd have said that you're a closed minded, mean hateful person who neither cares for others nor respect them.  Like I said, give think back to a time when you did something that didn't come across well and give her the benefit of the doubt - not the judgement of the minute.

Coming from outside the right - things like this this is why the Left says that conservatives are mean and hateful and vice versa.  Tolerance and respect mean this doesn't happen.

But I didn't. I'm sure you're a great guy and if we sat down with a few beers, we'd talk about all kinds of great ideas.
You’ve got to be shitting me. “Coming from outside the right” calling out someone for their detrimental actions is mean and hateful, but calling someone a racist, homophobic, sexist Nazi is just and right and calling it like you see it. Got it.

How’s the perch from the cheap seats? 

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Spin Zone / Re: The Memo
« on: February 04, 2018, 03:05:28 PM »
Why would I (or anyone else) be in favor of political spying by the FBI??  US Government surveillance of any US citizen is pretty serious stuff.  The bar to do so has to be very high.  That is the purpose of the FISA court.  The government prepares the case and the judge then decides if it is warranted.  In this particular case the judge did deem it appropriate.  None of us in the general public really has the facts as to why that happened. Could opposition research by a political party be part of that justification?  That could be the case, it is up to the FISA judge to evaluate the merits.  What the Nunes memo implies is that the only reason the FISA warrant was issued was the Steele documents and was done soley to discredit the President. From what we do know, that doesn't appear to be the case. Other than Mr. Nunes opinion, he gives scant detail to back it up, if Mr. Nunes has true evidence, why didn't he put it in the memo?  The surveillance order was renewed multiple times, most recently by people appointed by the current administration.  If there was some evidence of illegal activity by the FBI, why was it renewed?

Did the FISA order have limits?  Again, that isn't known, we do not know if the surveillance was limited to Page, or included any other contacts he may of had.  There is no information that the FBI had the ability to listen in on everything happening in the Republican campaign.

A FISA request has never been denied.

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