PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Gary on September 25, 2016, 02:23:04 PM
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To go completely off on a tangent for this forum, today was a spectacular day to fly in southeastern PA. So... the Quakertown Pilots Association marshaled it's resources and put together a flight of 5 planes to trek to the Sentimental Journey fundraising fly-in breakfast at Lock Haven PA. Absolutely gorgeous, cool, CAVU and smooth air. One of those days that once trimmed up the airplane just runs on rails and you can sit back and watch the scenery unfold. A good turnout of planes and locals.
Overall a most excellent adventure. We are so blessed to have the opportunity to be pilots.
That is all, y'all can now resume the usual partisan sniping! ;)
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A good bunch. You should tell the Mooney guys I got one. Hopefully I'll come visit some time after my poor thing gets outa the shop.
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A good bunch. You should tell the Mooney guys I got one. Hopefully I'll come visit some time after my poor thing gets outa the shop.
Sure will, I know Brian remembers you. Hopefully the Mooney is in the shop for something routine and not a major issue.
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Sure will, I know Brian remembers you. Hopefully the Mooney is in the shop for something routine and not a major issue.
Major issue. Prop strike which was entirely my fault. I am almost ready to bag the whole thing, since I feel like a truly lousy pilot.
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Major issue. Prop strike which was entirely my fault. I am almost ready to bag the whole thing, since I feel like a truly lousy pilot.
That is not good! :( Unfortunate stuff happens, not sure why you would bag the whole thing over a single incident. Never had the impression you were a lousy pilot. ;D Vertically challenged perhaps. :D
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Major issue. Prop strike which was entirely my fault. I am almost ready to bag the whole thing, since I feel like a truly lousy pilot.
Sorry to hear that Michael. The Mooneys handle like Grummans, and unfortunately will get into pilot induced oscillation if you don't come in at proper airspeed on final, and hold it off, and not force it down. A go around is your friend, but you know that. Don't give it up. I like the M20C's a lot.
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Sorry to hear that Michael. The Mooneys handle like Grummans, and unfortunately will get into pilot induced oscillation if you don't come in at proper airspeed on final, and hold it off, and not force it down. A go around is your friend, but you know that. Don't give it up. I like the M20C's a lot.
I like my Mooney. I pulled the power off for a landing at a short airstrip. Came on on speed on final, but the sink was too much and I landed hard. I have no idea how you do a power off 180 in a Mooney. If I don't either come in fast or keep some power in I'm due for an arrival. Chalk it up to a case of m not following my own established procedures. And what really honks me off is normally with my established procedures I can land well within the distance needed for this airstrip (which was actually more than I was thinking). I blew it. Totally my bad.
I did do one good thing that saved my life. I promised myself long ago I would never put the power back in after a bounce, or anything else. Too much to do in too little time in a go-around. So when I hit (not knowing I had a strike) I just rode out the oscillation. Turns out the prop was bent asymmetrically. Had I put in the power I can only imagine the outcome, but I doubt it would have been good.
Well over $20 grand to fix, but the insurance will pay. Like I said, I'm half tempted to just bag it, but once I get the aircraft back I'll see how well I can do.
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Nah, don't give up. That was just a little hiccup in a lifetime of flying pleasure.
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I had a very good instructor that transitioned me from my Cherokee 140B to my Grumman Tiger. Ron Levy. Ron, had the sweat running down my back, and gave me great advice, and instruction. I knew the plane was different from my Cherokee, and the Cessnas I learned in when I pulled the power back to enter the pattern, and it didn't slow down! LOL! I learned, early on that when I had too fast of a sink rate, to nudge in some power, and keep the nose up, and watch the air speed. Never force it down, and if you were running out of runway, go around. I very rarely had to go around in the Tiger, as I just seem to be able to fly that plane well from the beginning.
I really like Mooneys, and have wanted an M20J/201 for a long time as a travelling machine. Don't give up on the M20C, it is one of the best GA airplanes ever made.
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Gary: Sounds fun!
Steingar: Sorry to hear about the prop strike.
I'm not current at the moment. After buying my first home and combining households with my significant other, I needed to see where my finances stood after everything ironed out. But I'll get back into it at some point. My retirement goal is a home in a fly-in community, with a decent sized house and a hangar larger than the house. 8)
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I like my Mooney...... -snip-
I am truly sorry to hear of this. It really only takes a minor distraction at exactly the wrong time and things go downhill quickly. Best of luck on the repairs.
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I am truly sorry to hear of this. It really only takes a minor distraction at exactly the wrong time and things go downhill quickly. Best of luck on the repairs.
It wasn't even a distraction, just me not following my normal procedures like I should have.
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I had a very good instructor that transitioned me from my Cherokee 140B to my Grumman Tiger. Ron Levy. Ron, had the sweat running down my back, and gave me great advice, and instruction. I knew the plane was different from my Cherokee, and the Cessnas I learned in when I pulled the power back to enter the pattern, and it didn't slow down! LOL! I learned, early on that when I had too fast of a sink rate, to nudge in some power, and keep the nose up, and watch the air speed. Never force it down, and if you were running out of runway, go around. I very rarely had to go around in the Tiger, as I just seem to be able to fly that plane well from the beginning.
I had a pretty decent instructor for the Mooney, but I wish he'd really drummed the whole maintaining power thing into my head. A pity I had to discover it this way.
I really like Mooneys, and have wanted an M20J/201 for a long time as a travelling machine. Don't give up on the M20C, it is one of the best GA airplanes ever made.
If I ever get out that way again (which I probably will) I'll give you a flight in mine. You are correct, the M20 line is an awesome traveling machine, better than most. What I like is that you've got the absolute simplest complex aircraft ever made by anyone. Mine does 160 mph on about 8.5 gal/hour. That's better gas mileage than most cars! And for something that's as old as I am!
With the Johnson bar gear and hydraulic flaps there just isn't that much to break.
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Gary: Sounds fun!
Steingar: Sorry to hear about the prop strike.
I'm not current at the moment. After buying my first home and combining households with my significant other, I needed to see where my finances stood after everything ironed out. But I'll get back into it at some point. My retirement goal is a home in a fly-in community, with a decent sized house and a hangar larger than the house. 8)
Why do you think you deserve a decent sized house in a fly-in when there are so many poor people around that really need your money?
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Why do you think you deserve a decent sized house in a fly-in when there are so many poor people around that really need your money?
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Same reason you old people want your damn social security. (Makes motion of shaking cane in the air.)
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Same reason you old people want your damn social security. (Makes motion of shaking cane in the air.)
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Maybe because WE PAID INTO IT? If I invested it myself I'd have a lot more, yet the Fed government stole from me all those years. Nice huh?
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And we're off!
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Maybe because WE PAID INTO IT? If I invested it myself I'd have a lot more, yet the Fed government stole from me all those years. Nice huh?
Technically, we only paid for then-year recipients (any excess was used to hide the extent of the debt).
But there is the debt of honor... the promise made to provide social security payments. But I realize that honor is not something high on the liberal's priority list.
(edit: And yes, I did the calculation once and the depressing conclusion was that even with conservative fixed rate returns I still could have done 3X better than I'll end up with from social security payment)
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Same reason you old people want your damn social security. (Makes motion of shaking cane in the air.)
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Hey! Keep your sticky mitts off my social security. I had no choice but to pay into that ponzi scheme for 40 years and I want what was promised!!@ >:(
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Maybe because WE PAID INTO IT? If I invested it myself I'd have a lot more, yet the Fed government stole from me all those years. Nice huh?
Easy there, gramps. It was a tongue-in-cheek response to an in-kind post. But I'm happy to discuss in another thread. :)