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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Rush on July 31, 2021, 02:55:58 AM

Title: First world problem
Post by: Rush on July 31, 2021, 02:55:58 AM
You are a couple. You have TSA prechek but your partner doesn’t. What to do? Turn it into a diatribe about unfair class division in the U.S. and write a long article about it.

https://slate.com/human-interest/2020/01/tsa-precheck-couples-divide.html
Title: Re: First world problem
Post by: Dweyant on July 31, 2021, 03:21:21 AM
Wow, I feel dumber for even scanning that article.
Title: Re: First world problem
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on July 31, 2021, 04:11:28 AM
"inequalites"

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Title: Re: First world problem
Post by: bflynn on July 31, 2021, 04:57:45 AM
Our answer - you meet in the other side of security and don’t think of it as a problem
Title: Re: First world problem
Post by: Rush on July 31, 2021, 04:58:45 AM
It could almost be a Babylon Bee article, it’s so ludicrous. Is it really a problem for one of you to sit on the other side of security for a few minutes while the other goes through? You have to sit around in the terminal for an hour anyway before boarding, do you have to be glued to each other like conjoined twins the whole time?

Although I agree when they talked about sitting in first class vs coach. There’s a Seinfeld episode about that. I would be pissed if my husband took first class and left me in the back.



Title: Re: First world problem
Post by: Rush on July 31, 2021, 05:17:38 AM
I could see if you’re traveling with 4 little kids or one of you is in a wheelchair or very old or something, it would be problematic to separate. But these people are healthy young couples traveling without such encumbrances. They strike me as spoiled, superficial and totally missing the big picture, not to mention at high risk of divorce if they can’t handle separation for security screening without turning it into a battle.

They see it as a problem of class oppression between two types of travelers but the real problem is TSA is nothing but security theatre and symptomatic of class oppression alright - of all of us by an increasingly authoritarian federal government. But that just whooshes right over the heads of these millennials.
Title: Re: First world problem
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on July 31, 2021, 06:26:18 AM
When we flew several years ago, we always request a wheel chair for my wife. Because of that we always got pre-check on our passes When flew this May to go to Yellowstone, I requested a wheelchair for her and we did not get pre-check on our passes. Since she was in a wheel chair, we were pushed through the shorter handicapped line.

A pre-check van will be in our area beginning Monday and we have plans to go there.
Title: Re: First world problem
Post by: Username on July 31, 2021, 06:36:09 AM
If I had precheck and my wife didn't, no way would I leave her to the TSA all alone.  I'd be there to help her with her bags, take care of any issues that might arise, and just enjoy being with her even though the situation was entirely unpleasant.  Traveling alone, sure.  I'd go through precheck.  But traveling with her, no.  We're in this together.  I'm certain she'd do the same for me.
Title: Re: First world problem
Post by: Number7 on July 31, 2021, 07:05:39 AM
The same liberal pussies screaming out their fury at being slightly delayed by useless, bureaucratic, bullshit, are the same pussies screaming at us for refusing to obey the stupid bureaucratic bullshit about the chinese virus.

Liberals are stupid.

They can't help it, partially because they were indoctrinated by commie liberal asshole teachers and are too fucking lazy to see the depth of their hypocrisy.

In short, their lazy, spoiled, useless, and hypocritical drama queens.... like pretty much the entire democrat party.
Title: Re: First world problem
Post by: Number7 on July 31, 2021, 07:09:55 AM
Speaking of entitlement whores, how big and flashy will simone biles participation trophy be,
and will nbc hold a two-hour live special to commemorate awarding it to her?

Title: Re: First world problem
Post by: iryan on July 31, 2021, 07:10:58 AM
My wife gets mad when I use the known crew member and she has to go through pre-check. in orlando, ill usually get coffee before using kcm while she''s waiting for pre check...this is  sure fire way to piss her off.
Title: Re: First world problem
Post by: Rush on July 31, 2021, 07:16:58 AM
If I had precheck and my wife didn't, no way would I leave her to the TSA all alone.  I'd be there to help her with her bags, take care of any issues that might arise, and just enjoy being with her even though the situation was entirely unpleasant.  Traveling alone, sure.  I'd go through precheck.  But traveling with her, no.  We're in this together.  I'm certain she'd do the same for me.

There ya go, you either do it together, or you do it apart and don't complain about it. I see no problem either way. My problem is doing it apart and a) letting it be a friction between you and b) complaining that the existence of pre-chek is symptomatic of systemic classism.  Not to mention racism.

They just couldn't resist white male bashing:

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Maybe you’ll scan the business class seats and give a little “hmph!” when you see they’re almost entirely populated by white men. Maybe four passengers with frequent flyer status on your airline will cut in front of you at the check-in desk. Maybe a TSA agent will press a button for your perceived gender, scanning the contours of your spread-eagled silhouette while your stockinged feet soak up the grime on the airport floor. Maybe you’ll look over to the comparatively dignified Precheck area and grumble about the humiliations of life under surveillance-state capitalism.

And of course now we must harp on non-binary gender "discrimination". is it really a big national discrimination problem that TSA agents might be confused about whether the nude-o-gram-junk is actually junk or smuggled contraband?

And finally, surveillance-state capitalism??!!  Capitalism isn't the problem here. Surveillance state is.
Title: Re: First world problem
Post by: Number7 on July 31, 2021, 07:24:07 AM

They just couldn't resist white male bashing:

And of course now we must harp on non-binary gender "discrimination". is it really a big national discrimination problem that TSA agents might be confused about whether the nude-o-gram-junk is actually junk or smuggled contraband?

And finally, surveillance-state capitalism??!!  Capitalism isn't the problem here. Surveillance state is.

liberals are NEVER responsible for anything.

it is always racism, sexism, islamophobia, white men, wage earners, successful people, conservatives, church goers, people who saved their money and have nice homes, people who worked hard to get good grades and found high paying jobs....

ANYTHING except their own myopic, self-centered, lying ass, lazy, ignorant, uselessness.
Title: Re: First world problem
Post by: Rush on July 31, 2021, 07:49:33 AM
My wife gets mad when I use the known crew member and she has to go through pre-check. in orlando, ill usually get coffee before using kcm while she''s waiting for pre check...this is  sure fire way to piss her off.

Lol, that’s different. Known crew member should have privileges.
Title: Re: First world problem
Post by: bflynn on July 31, 2021, 08:38:52 AM
If I had precheck and my wife didn't, no way would I leave her to the TSA all alone.

I tried that once. The guy told me I HAD to go through the precheck line because my boarding pass said precheck.  And you can’t apply logic to this because well…govt employee.
Title: Re: First world problem
Post by: Rush on July 31, 2021, 11:33:14 AM
I tried that once. The guy told me I HAD to go through the precheck line because my boarding pass said precheck.  And you can’t apply logic to this because well…govt employee.

That’s probably not even a rule. He probably just made that up. Some of those guys (and gals) are on power trips. Others seem like good people who actually try to make it as least unpleasant as possible.
Title: Re: First world problem
Post by: nddons on August 03, 2021, 07:27:22 AM
If I had precheck and my wife didn't, no way would I leave her to the TSA all alone.  I'd be there to help her with her bags, take care of any issues that might arise, and just enjoy being with her even though the situation was entirely unpleasant.  Traveling alone, sure.  I'd go through precheck.  But traveling with her, no.  We're in this together.  I'm certain she'd do the same for me.
But then again, you’re a real man, and not a whiney little bitch who submits his story to Slate.
Title: Re: First world problem
Post by: nddons on August 03, 2021, 07:34:16 AM
Lol, that’s different. Known crew member should have privileges.
I guess so. But I was talking to my Warbird mentor up at OSH, retired United Airlines Captain who flew the 727, 737, 757, and 767, as well as the KC-135 in Vietnam and SAC.  He said that since 9/11 TSA took about a dozen of the tiniest little Swiss Army knives that he always keeps in his pocket as a tool.

You can’t let the captain keep a tiny knife that he could use to take over his own airplane.

Madness.
Title: Re: First world problem
Post by: Lucifer on August 03, 2021, 07:38:07 AM
I guess so. But I was talking to my Warbird mentor up at OSH, retired United Airlines Captain who flew the 727, 737, 757, and 767, as well as the KC-135 in Vietnam and SAC.  He said that since 9/11 TSA took about a dozen of the tiniest little Swiss Army knives that he always keeps in his pocket as a tool.

You can’t let the captain keep a tiny knife that he could use to take over his own airplane.

Madness.

 What about that crash axe mounted just behind the Capt's seat? 
Title: Re: First world problem
Post by: Anthony on August 03, 2021, 07:39:33 AM
If I had precheck and my wife didn't, no way would I leave her to the TSA all alone.  I'd be there to help her with her bags, take care of any issues that might arise, and just enjoy being with her even though the situation was entirely unpleasant.  Traveling alone, sure.  I'd go through precheck.  But traveling with her, no.  We're in this together.  I'm certain she'd do the same for me.

I'd do the same.

But wait.  You enjoy being with your wife?  What the Hell is that like?
Title: Re: First world problem
Post by: Username on August 03, 2021, 08:01:09 AM
I'd do the same.

But wait.  You enjoy being with your wife?  What the Hell is that like?
Really!  Twenty six years this Friday.  Got her a few baubles from Tiffany as anniversary presents.  She's giving me some upgraded avionics for the 170.  Yeah, she's a keeper.
Title: Re: First world problem
Post by: Rush on August 03, 2021, 09:21:28 AM
Really!  Twenty six years this Friday.  Got her a few baubles from Tiffany as anniversary presents.  She's giving me some upgraded avionics for the 170.  Yeah, she's a keeper.

Congratulations, we are 36 years this past May.  But I couldn’t tell you if he enjoys being with me, you’d have to ask him.  ;D  He does say that being with me is never boring, whatever that means.
Title: Re: First world problem
Post by: nddons on August 03, 2021, 12:31:18 PM
Congratulations, we are 36 years this past May.  But I couldn’t tell you if he enjoys being with me, you’d have to ask him.  ;D  He does say that being with me is never boring, whatever that means.
38 years this November. I hope I make it. I just told her about my initial annual invoice on my Navion.

By the way, I’m going to reduce the bill by 10% for emailing it to me while I was at OSH. Serious mojo damage.
Title: Re: First world problem
Post by: Rush on August 03, 2021, 01:50:24 PM
38 years this November. I hope I make it. I just told her about my initial annual invoice on my Navion.

By the way, I’m going to reduce the bill by 10% for emailing it to me while I was at OSH. Serious mojo damage.

I remember those annual bills. (We don’t have a plane right now.) But I viewed them as necessary for his mental health. He has to have what I call his “big toys” (the term offends him) either an airplane, or a yacht, or collector cars. Big things to constantly work on and improve. Without one or more of the above at all times he deflates and becomes a shell of himself. I love airplanes but working on big toys isn’t integral to my identity the way it is for him. For me it’s internal, I have to constantly absorb and analyze new information, connecting dots and constructing mental models of how the world works. Much less practical than him, but we have both learned that that is how we are and these ways that we are must be supported and funded. That’s what’s so great about long term marriages; you know each other very well.
Title: Re: First world problem
Post by: texasag93 on August 03, 2021, 01:56:42 PM
I guess so. But I was talking to my Warbird mentor up at OSH, retired United Airlines Captain who flew the 727, 737, 757, and 767, as well as the KC-135 in Vietnam and SAC.  He said that since 9/11 TSA took about a dozen of the tiniest little Swiss Army knives that he always keeps in his pocket as a tool.

You can’t let the captain keep a tiny knife that he could use to take over his own airplane.

Madness.

Tell him to start carrying a screwdriver that is less than 7" and he will be GTG. 

I found this out around 2006 when I was in DC doing a videoconference installation.  I was at Reagan and they saw something on X-ray.  I remembered that I had a screwdriver in my carryon.  I apologized, but mid sentence the TSA agent took the flathead to a table, measured it against a line, and gave it back to me.

https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-screening/whatcanibring/items/screwdrivers-shorter-7-inches (https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-screening/whatcanibring/items/screwdrivers-shorter-7-inches)

Title: Re: First world problem
Post by: Lucifer on August 03, 2021, 02:04:07 PM
BTW, every airline cockpit has one of these installed.

(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Feis-group.de%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2018%2F02%2FEIS_CrashAxe_1-1.png&f=1&nofb=1)

 So taking that pen knife away from the Capt only enhances safety and security!
Title: Re: First world problem
Post by: Rush on August 03, 2021, 02:23:13 PM
Tell him to start carrying a screwdriver that is less than 7" and he will be GTG. 

I found this out around 2006 when I was in DC doing a videoconference installation.  I was at Reagan and they saw something on X-ray.  I remembered that I had a screwdriver in my carryon.  I apologized, but mid sentence the TSA agent took the flathead to a table, measured it against a line, and gave it back to me.

https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-screening/whatcanibring/items/screwdrivers-shorter-7-inches (https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-screening/whatcanibring/items/screwdrivers-shorter-7-inches)

TSA is insane. I went through security with needles and syringes and a prescription bottle of liquid B12. I knew that they were allowed, but I was pulled by an agent who asked what the syringes were for. I told him that I give myself B12 shots. He said, “You have needles with those?”  I said, slowly, “That’s how I give myself injections.” (“You idiot” was probably my unspoken facial expression.)

He told me to wait there while he went and consulted his supervisor. Of course I was then released to go. First, I could easily have had a knock out drug in that vial. Second, even if I did, the cockpit door is locked, what am I gonna do with it, knock out one FA? Third, there will never be another 9/11 style attack. Flights 93 and 253 proved that. The public is wise to it an simply will not allow it. The entire TSA circus is POINTLESS.
Title: Re: First world problem
Post by: Username on August 03, 2021, 03:01:08 PM
I remember those annual bills. (We don’t have a plane right now.) But I viewed them as necessary for his mental health. marriages; you know each other very well.
My wife is the same way.  Flying is my therapy.  It's a great way to get away from everything and concentrate totally on something else.  Or she likes getting me out of the house and out from underfoot.
Title: Re: First world problem
Post by: Rush on August 03, 2021, 05:04:07 PM
My wife is the same way.  Flying is my therapy.  It's a great way to get away from everything and concentrate totally on something else.  Or she likes getting me out of the house and out from underfoot.

Probably both.  ;D
Title: Re: First world problem
Post by: Ron22 on August 03, 2021, 05:13:30 PM

https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-screening/whatcanibring/items/screwdrivers-shorter-7-inches (https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-screening/whatcanibring/items/screwdrivers-shorter-7-inches)
That is a long list, I am sure a good use of our tax dollars
Title: Re: First world problem
Post by: nddons on August 04, 2021, 08:16:16 AM
That is a long list, I am sure a good use of our tax dollars
Thank God I can bring antlers in my carryon.