PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Rush on August 02, 2021, 07:27:13 PM
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Aarrrrggghhhh!!!!!!!!!!
NO NO NO NO!!!!!!!
The Scottish hammer is notably different to the track and field hammer, in which a weight attached to a wire and held with a neutral grip. The hammer used in the Highland Games is typically a wooden handle four feet and two inches long with a spherical weight attached to one end.
https://barbend.com/scottish-hammer-throw/
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I guess I'm missing something....
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I guess I'm missing something....
It’s supposed to be from, not to. This language abomination has spread like wildfire in the last few years. It’d driving me insane because it’s wrong.
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It’s supposed to be from, not to. This language abomination has spread like wildfire in the last few years. It’d driving me insane because it’s wrong.
ah.
resistance is futile
Loose vs lose
moron vs moroon
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Those of us afflicted with being taught proper grammar have the privilege of being constantly assaulted by those who were not.
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It’s supposed to be from, not to. This language abomination has spread like wildfire in the last few years. It’d driving me insane because it’s wrong.
fwiw - I can’t come up with ANY reason why someone would use such a construct. Some gammer mistakes have some reason, but that one doesn’t even look like a bad translation of a bad translation of a bad translation
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Those of us afflicted with being taught proper grammar have the privilege of being constantly assaulted by those who did not.
And I come by it genetically. My father was a relentless grammar nazi when we were kids. If I said to him, “Dad, come quick! Mom is laying on the floor unconscious!” He would have said, “Lying on the floor unconscious.” Naturally it’s a source of revulsion to me that I’ve turned into my father.
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fwiw - I can’t come up with ANY reason why someone would use such a construct. Some gammer mistakes have some reason, but that one doesn’t even look like a bad translation of a bad translation of a bad translation
Grammar editing died with the spell checker. Most publications no longer have editors who check content for proper grammar etc.
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Here’s a great explanation why “to” is wrong. I lifted it from the comments at this site:
https://www.dailywritingtips.com/different-from-different-to-different-than/
Apparently it’s British to use “to” and maybe I see it so much now because of the internet and exposure to non-American English. You would think the British would speak English more correctly than Americans, after all, their accent makes them sound excruciatingly proper. This issue alone would have been enough justification for us to declare independence.
December 29, 2010 2:13 pm
OK: despite my note of 25 May above, I will give my full commentary on the ‘different from/to’ debate here. We differentiate one thing FROM another, just as we distinguish one thing FROM another. As I understand the etymology, to ‘confer’ is to carry (ferre) towards or together (con-) and to differ is to carry (ferre) away from (dis-). The directional implication of ‘differ’ is certainly ‘from’ rather than ‘to’. A con-ference is a coming together: a dif-ference is a going apart.
There is no challenging the logic of ‘different from’, then. But there’s another helpful pair of opposites in this debate. I may liken you TO an ostrich; but if I say you are not like an ostrich, then you must differ FROM an ostrich. Just as ‘liken’ and ‘differ’ imply opposite states of affairs, so ‘to’ and ‘from’ reinforce that opposition.
There are many Latin words beginning with the prefix ‘dis-‘ which have a basic sense of separation (from): for example, distraho means to pull apart, and the past participle of this verb (distractum) gives us the Englsih word ‘distracted’ (pulled apart). And discedo means ‘I depart from’ or ‘I go away from’ (‘dis-‘ with ‘cedo’, I go). ‘Dis-‘, meaning apart or in different directions, (e.g. disconcerting, disconnected), always becomes (whether in Latin or English) ‘dif-‘ before an ‘f’ (therefore different, diffuse).
There have been notable instances where ‘different to’ lets us, or rather the user, down. A BBC Radio 4 reporter on 25/09/2002 was wanting to explain that the message Britain was trying to sell to the United nations was different from the message the Americans were trying to sell to the United Nations. But what he actually said was – ‘Britain is trying to sell a different message to the Americans’. (Britain was, of course, trying to sell to the UN, not to the Americans.)
More ridiculous was a circular letter issued by MacMillan Cancer Relief in 2005, which stated: ‘When men have cancer, they tend to react differently to women.’ In other words, when men have cancer they don’t react to women in the same way as they did before they had cancer. That is what they said, but of course it isn’t what they meant.
More recently, the BBC told us (06/11/2005) that ‘David Cameron would take a markedly different approach to Tony Blair’. Dave’s attitude to Tone was surely not at issue.
“Men who have cancer react differently to women.” If that isn’t enough clarification I don’t know what is.
Another commenter put it like this:
anyone who believes it is right to say ‘different to’ must equally (and logically) believe its right to say ‘similar from’.
Case closed.
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Apparently it’s British to use “to” and maybe I see it so much now because of the internet and exposure to non-American English. You would think the British would speak English more correctly than Americans, after all, their accent makes them sound excruciatingly proper. This issue alone would have been enough justification for us to declare independence.
England and the USA - two countries separated by a “common” language
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And I come by it genetically. My father was a relentless grammar nazi when we were kids. If I said to him, “Dad, come quick! Mom is laying on the floor unconscious!” He would have said, “Lying on the floor unconscious.” Naturally it’s a source of revulsion to me that I’ve turned into my father.
And he would have said, “come quickly.”
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And he would have said, “come quickly.”
That’s right!
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Rush - some friendly advice: because these grammatical constructions are likely to occur forever I suggest you either get a doctor to prescribe some valium or go to your mental happy place. Was just at Oshkosh with a brother and a friend of the family. The friend calls the Oshkosh airshow his happy place - and he’s not even a pilot. The down side for him is that his happy place only occurs once a year.
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I want to know when "gonna" entered the written language. Sure, it's what people say. But PLEASE write it as "going to". I flinch every time I see it.
My parents were not grammar Nazis, but they did point out that well spoken people get much farther ahead than people who are sloppy in word and deed. I worked hard to be sure that I did things correctly. And there are always two spaces after the period!
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... point out that well spoken people get much farther ahead than people who are sloppy in word and deed.
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I want to know when "gonna" entered the written language. Sure, it's what people say. But PLEASE write it as "going to". I flinch every time I see it.
My parents were not grammar Nazis, but they did point out that well spoken people get much farther ahead than people who are sloppy in word and deed. I worked hard to be sure that I did things correctly. And there are always two spaces after the period!
Go over to a GA forum and you get "So my friend has a cool Bo, and the guy in the hangar next to me just finished his Tripe. And another friend just bought a Twinkie".
Got to use that cool slang you know............
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Go over to a GA forum and you get "So my friend has a cool Bo, and the guy in the hangar next to me just finished his Tripe. And another friend just bought a Twinkie".
Got to use that cool slang you know............
Fer sher +1. Every discipline, including hobby, has its own shorthand grammar. Learning and understanding and using it correctly proves that you're one of the "in" crowd. I was at a picnic with my sister and her friends while they went off on a discussion of riparian whatevers. They were all in the masters program in biology. I finally had to ask them what they were talking about. Just for fun at conferences I drop into one of the more obscure sub-groups and listen to a presentation. I have no clue what's going on. I suspect that more than a few in that same area also have no idea.
Outer marker inbound! Any traffic in the area please advise!
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I wanna to know when "gonna" entered the written language. Sure, it's what people say. But PLEASE write it as "going to". I flinch every time I see it.
ftfy
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And don't get me started on undergraduate students who use "text speak" when they send me emails. "when r u gonna grade my paper i wanna a" Arg!
I think I've been watching too much Brit TV on Amazon and Netflix. They talk funny.
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I want to know when "gonna" entered the written language. Sure, it's what people say. But PLEASE write it as "going to". I flinch every time I see it.
So, whatcha gonna doboutit.
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I want to know when "gonna" entered the written language. Sure, it's what people say. But PLEASE write it as "going to". I flinch every time I see it.
My parents were not grammar Nazis, but they did point out that well spoken people get much farther ahead than people who are sloppy in word and deed. I worked hard to be sure that I did things correctly. And there are always two spaces after the period!
I type “gonna” when I want to convey a certain tone. I assure you it is very deliberate.
Now the two spaces after a period, I’ve read whole articles on that. Apparently it’s controversial although that is what I was always taught. Sometimes I go to one space just because. Like I did just now....
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Rush - some friendly advice: because these grammatical constructions are likely to occur forever I suggest you either get a doctor to prescribe some valium or go to your mental happy place. Was just at Oshkosh with a brother and a friend of the family. The friend calls the Oshkosh airshow his happy place - and he’s not even a pilot. The down side for him is that his happy place only occurs once a year.
I’m gonna hafta get a permanent Valium IV line installed.
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And don't get me started on undergraduate students who use "text speak" when they send me emails. "when r u gonna grade my paper i wanna a" Arg!
I think I've been watching too much Brit TV on Amazon and Netflix. They talk funny.
I’ve resorted to just watching Russian shows recently, in Russian. The grammar doesn’t bother me because I don’t know enough Russian, meaning barely any, and there’s no woke preaching.
As for “text speak”, I learned it when gaming. It was required because without “vent” (audio) all communication is typed in chat and when you’re trying to fight monsters you need to abbreviate as much as possible. But I’d never dream of texting like that to a teacher! The kids I gamed with probably gelled that way, whereas I was raised properly. Ugh.
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So, whatcha gonna doboutit.
Youse guys! I'll drop ya in dis bubbler once like we do up nort' you betcha.
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This song was very popular in Russia during WW!!. It's about a girl waiting for her lover to return from the war. Katusha (sp?) was also the name of rockets the Russians loved to use against the Germans.
For Rush for the Russian language
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rhp7Q7Ceq8
For Anthony, same song you might like the scenery better. ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ulQ95RqAE8
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Next up, the "Grocer's Apostrophe."
And later in the show, a debate on the Oxford Comma.
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Next up, the "Grocer's Apostrophe."
And later in the show, a debate on the Oxford Comma.
I’m always confused over whether to use the Oxford comma.
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I’m always confused over whether to use the Oxford comma.
I always use the Oxford comma. It's just wrong otherwise.
The koala eats roots and leaves.
The koala eats, roots, and leaves.
Not a great example, but still funny.
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I’m gonna hafta get a permanent Valium IV line installed.
You sparked a memory from my childhood. I saw my mom had a valium on the table and I asked her why she would take a lambda (the 'V' was upside down). After that comment, she called them that. Less advertising of taking a sedative.
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And I come by it genetically. My father was a relentless grammar nazi when we were kids. If I said to him, “Dad, come quick! Mom is laying on the floor unconscious!” He would have said, “Lying on the floor unconscious.” Naturally it’s a source of revulsion to me that I’ve turned into my father.
That would be “come quickly.”
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And he would have said, “come quickly.”
Doh! Becky beat me to it.
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Screw the grammer…. just get your butt over here now!
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And don't get me started on undergraduate students who use "text speak" when they send me emails. "when r u gonna grade my paper i wanna a" Arg!
I think I've been watching too much Brit TV on Amazon and Netflix. They talk funny.
I hope you respond with “I won’t grade you paper until I receive from you a properly constructed sentence with perfect spelling.”
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I hope you respond with “I won’t grade you paper until I receive from you a properly constructed sentence with perfect spelling.”
I do give a little slack to non-native English speakers. I'm sure that their English is way better than my Chinese or whatever. But text-speak gets a standard response of "Your future employer would never allow you to speak to your supervisor or a client like this. Please take this opportunity to practice professional business correspondence" or words to that effect. Once usually does it. And the paper goes to the bottom of the pile. Oops!
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You sparked a memory from my childhood. I saw my mom had a valium on the table and I asked her why she would take a lambda (the 'V' was upside down). After that comment, she called them that. Less advertising of taking a sedative.
Haha! Doctors used to routinely give Valium to housewives stuck at home with kids. I can see why.
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Haha! Doctors used to routinely give Valium to housewives stuck at home with kids. I can see why.
Problem solved if they gave the Valium to the kids. Happy parent, happy kids. Benadryl works too. We give it to our dogs if a thunderstorm is nearby or just before New Year or the 4th of July. Works great. Calms them right down. Wasn't there a time when a spoonful of whisky was regularly used? Wonder why we don't do that any more.
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Problem solved if they gave the Valium to the kids. Happy parent, happy kids. Benadryl works too. We give it to our dogs if a thunderstorm is nearby or just before New Year or the 4th of July. Works great. Calms them right down. Wasn't there a time when a spoonful of whisky was regularly used? Wonder why we don't do that any more.
Oh hell yeah. Whiskey was routinely given to babies for teething pain. My mom kept a bottle of paregoric (literal opium) in the medicine cabinet. She’d dose us with it if we got stomach upset.
We gave our kids Benadryl when flying to prevent nausea. It had the great side effect that they’d sleep through the flight. I wish I’d thought to give it to our dog, she freaked out at thunderstorms, and flying too for that matter. Why didn’t I dose her with it too?