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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on January 16, 2019, 08:13:50 AM

Title: Shutdown trap?
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on January 16, 2019, 08:13:50 AM
I try to gird myself for Trump to really step in it, while at the same time cheering his role as disrupter.

But honestly, I think he may have an ability to strategize that is remarkable.

A senior administration official writes that obstruction toward the president is rife in federal employees, who can be difficult to remove. Until the shutdown. Rules force RIFs after 30 days of furlough.

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If this was the plan all along, it would explain why President Trump goaded Chuck and Nancy in his televised meeting with them last year, boasting that he would claim credit for the shutdown.  How could they resist a prolonged shutdown when he made it so easy to blame him?

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/01/trumps_shutdown_trap.html
Title: Re: Shutdown trap?
Post by: Lucifer on January 16, 2019, 08:18:25 AM
I try to gird myself for Trump to really step in it, while at the same time cheering his role as disrupter.

But honestly, I think he may have an ability to strategize that is remarkable.

A senior administration official writes that obstruction toward the president is rife in federal employees, who can be difficult to remove. Until the shutdown. Rules force RIFs after 30 days of furlough.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/01/trumps_shutdown_trap.html

 Interesting, I saw this when it came out.

 If this was the strategy, why talk about it, just implement.   To me it appears to be a shot across the bow to dims.   

 RIF's are very complicated procedures.  I agree with the author of the story, it would go a long way in draining the swamp.

 Time will tell.
Title: Re: Shutdown trap?
Post by: Anthony on January 16, 2019, 08:22:25 AM
The vast majority of Federal, and State governments are run by committed Democrats who just want to grow government for their own job security.  That is what Trump is fighting.  On every level in the vast Fed bureaucracy are Big Government Democrats working against Trump, and any Republican.  This is part of the "Deep State" that people talk about.  The new Admin may replace the very top, but it is the people below them that actually run these agencies. 
Title: Re: Shutdown trap?
Post by: Lucifer on January 16, 2019, 08:28:16 AM
The vast majority of Federal, and State governments are run by committed Democrats who just want to grow government for their own job security.  That is what Trump is fighting.  On every level in the vast Fed bureaucracy are Big Government Democrats working against Trump, and any Republican.  This is part of the "Deep State" that people talk about.  The new Admin may replace the very top, but it is the people below them that actually run these agencies.

 The real problem in government are the SES employees.  Non elected, appointed bureaucrats with way too much power and virtually no oversight.  FBI and DoJ/ IRS come to mind when discussing these types.
Title: Re: Shutdown trap?
Post by: Rush on January 16, 2019, 09:58:24 AM
Wow.  Well all the rest of us are subject to layoffs why not the unproductive federal employees. I can imagine the stink and hysteria as if they have a RIGHT to their federal job.
Title: Re: Shutdown trap?
Post by: Steingar on January 16, 2019, 02:15:20 PM
Wow.  Well all the rest of us are subject to layoffs why not the unproductive federal employees. I can imagine the stink and hysteria as if they have a RIGHT to their federal job.
I'm rather hoping they all stage a 1 day strike in protest, so you can experience just how unproductive they are.
Title: Re: Shutdown trap?
Post by: Little Joe on January 16, 2019, 03:00:54 PM
I'm rather hoping they all stage a 1 day strike in protest, so you can experience just how unproductive they are.
Much of the government has already been shutdown 26 days, and I have barely noticed.  They are currently a delayed payment vacation.  It is a lie to say any of them are working without pay.  They will all be paid as soon as the two sides can negotiate a compromise.

I'd like to see all white men stage a one day walk out and see what happens!
Title: Re: Shutdown trap?
Post by: bflynn on January 16, 2019, 04:13:22 PM
I'm personally of the opinion that we're running the wrong half of the government.  Most of what is running via entitlement spending shouldn't be because I don't think entitlement spending is Constitutionally supported.  But that's going to take a huge lawsuit and a willingness to upset the status quo.

Meanwhile, if the rules require that RIFs start happening, then that isn't the president's scheming, that is on whoever made that rule. 
Title: Re: Shutdown trap?
Post by: Number7 on January 16, 2019, 06:18:06 PM
When dealing with anything in the present day, EVERYTHING is President Donald Trump's fault.

However, if all these people are working nonessential jobs, why not close all those jobs down and right size the government into only essential departments? Think of all the power communists (democrats) would lose.