Post by: Lucifer on January 04, 2018, 07:04:11 AM
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Post by: Anthony on January 04, 2018, 08:20:08 AM
The DNC is worse than the Communist Party.
Post by: Number7 on January 04, 2018, 08:47:53 AM
The Democrats are in bed with the radical, anti American Antifa, and Black Lives Matter. Both violent, using fascist tactics. It is who the Democrats are today, and that's why they have been losing so many elections. They are way too far left, out of touch with all but the most radical, and want to destroy our country from within. It is the Fundamental Transformation Obama pushed, as if we were such an awful place that we needed a top to bottom overhaul. We didn't need, nor want Fundamental Transformation, and rejected it soundly after the first two years of Obama.
The DNC IS than the Communist Party.
Fixed that for clarity
Post by: Little Joe on January 04, 2018, 09:35:06 AM
Fixed that for clarityuh, no. That wasn't clear.
I think you meant "The DNC IS the communist party".
Post by: Number7 on January 04, 2018, 10:16:54 AM
uh, no. That wasn't clear.
I think you meant "The DNC IS the communist party".
I bow to your superior intellect!
Post by: Little Joe on January 04, 2018, 10:19:12 AM
I bow to your superior intellect!Not superior intellect. Just one that is familiar with interpreting typos (my own).
Post by: Number7 on January 04, 2018, 03:34:28 PM
The rest of the time I know they are a bunch of spoiled brats, whining because their mothers made them wash behind their ears.
The level of outright delusion is so great that it is impossible to imagine that these are grown adults.
Post by: asechrest on January 04, 2018, 04:03:12 PM
Sometimes I think of the Democratic Party as a group of adults that have lost their way.
The rest of the time I know they are a bunch of spoiled brats, whining because their mothers made them wash behind their ears.
The level of outright delusion is so great that it is impossible to imagine that these are grown adults.
If you know many adults, you know it's NOT impossible to imagine.
Post by: Number7 on January 04, 2018, 05:40:45 PM
If you know many adults, you know it's NOT impossible to imagine.
I think of Nancy (You have to PASS the bill to find out what's IN the bill) Pelosi, proclaiming her outrage that the Trump tax relief bill will be voted on before everybody in creation gets to read and fully understand it.
Then there's Chuck Schumer, barack obama, Bill Clinton, and a host of other democrats calling for border enforcement at various times in the last thirty years, and how these clown-ass, idiots are making hay pretending to be the exact opposite.
Then there was Al Franken and his derisive attacks during the confirmation hearings about sexual harassment, Maxine Waters - well, I don't actually have to say anything except, Maxine Waters. Everyone with a brain knows about that pig.
Then there is Sheila Jackson Lee... John Conyers... Alcee Hastings...
The list is quite lengthy.
These people are psychopathic liars, completely detached from reality, and stalwarts of the democrat party.
I think they must have a mental test to join, and anyone that passes, is not allowed to run for office as a democrat.
Post by: Anthony on January 04, 2018, 06:01:18 PM
The Republicans like the Democrats would, and probably have sold their souls just to get re-elected.
Post by: Lucifer on January 04, 2018, 06:28:30 PM
Yes the Democrats are dysfunctional, yet the Republicans can't work together, and present a united front to get things that would be good for the country passed. McCain, Graham, Murkowski, Collins, etc. As obstructionist as the Democrats, perhaps more so. McConnell, Ryan, and their Establishment, committee leadership crazed minions do the rest of the obstruction. Then you have people lie Mitt Romney, and George W. Bush badmouthing Trump.
The Republicans like the Democrats would, and probably have sold their souls just to get re-elected.
"There's not a dime's worth of difference between the Democrat and Republican parties,"- George Wallace
Post by: Anthony on January 05, 2018, 05:52:41 AM
"There's not a dime's worth of difference between the Democrat and Republican parties,"- George Wallace
When you are beholden to special interests due to campaign funding, and not the people you supposedly represent, that will happen.
Post by: Rush on January 05, 2018, 09:06:23 AM
Sometimes I think of the Democratic Party as a group of adults that have lost their way.
The rest of the time I know they are a bunch of spoiled brats, whining because their mothers made them wash behind their ears.
The level of outright delusion is so great that it is impossible to imagine that these are grown adults.
I think there is something to that, at least for some liberal Democrats, that is, it's a form of emotional immaturity. The reason I think that is when I was a teenager I remember one time hearing a conservative talk show on the radio. I recall feeling kind of anti-authority towards him, like he would have forced me to wash behind my ears as you put it. But when I was 18 I met the guy that would introduce me to libertarianism and I learned critical thinking skills and how to choose a political position on issues, not my emotion. Well, I basically grew up. Now when I listen to conservative talk shows, I feel myself on equal level with them as far as authority figures go.
I can't help but think liberals still picture themselves as kids who are threatened by conservatives. My own brother who is a radical leftist strongly strikes me that way. Any conversation with him about politics will have him descending into angry fits and argumentative dislogic to the point where it reminds you of a toddler throwing a tantrum. You can't reason with him, because his opinions aren't based in reason. They are based in emotion.
I have the impression he started out like me but never outgrew the phase of viewing conservatives as some kind of surrogate parent - or worse, people of God-like authority, who just want to boss him around. This is all deeply subconscious of course, no liberal would admit to it, but I wonder, if they allow themselves to listen to a conservative talk show, do they get that uncomfortable feeling that somebody wants to control them like a child?
Having said all that, make no mistake, I'm not a conservative, I'm a libertarian and so naturally do indeed view authority with suspicion. I do indeed resent a conservative (or anyone) telling me I can't grow a potted plant for example (also make no mistake I don't grow or use the stuff at all but would like to have the legal freedom to do so if I ever get cancer or something).
So from this perspective I completely agree with liberals, and I do side with them on other issues. But my position today comes from studying facts and reality (for example the harm done to society by the failed war on drugs). It no longer comes from an irrational hatred of anything that "feels" to me like a parental authority. I grew up; nothing and no one feels like a parental authority to me now, except my still living mother. At 91 years old she can still reduce me to a self-doubting mass of inner conflict, but that's another story.
Post by: Anthony on January 05, 2018, 09:19:50 AM
Post by: nddons on January 05, 2018, 10:16:54 AM
I am a Conserva-tarian. Lots of Libertarian live, and let live leanings. I also don't like to be dictated to, and controlled by authority that is often corrupt. I am not into what some conservatives want to control in people's personal lives, but I think that is lessening with the decline of the religious right.Spot on. I’m on the same page.
Back to the point of the OP. I could be wrong, but I suspect perhaps 15% of Democrats are the Madison protesting, BLM marching, anti-freedom anarchist Antifa terrorizing cabal that Ellison and other far left zealots are embracing.
Just as good conservatives have pushed back on the GOP establishment that is trying to assert that THEIR brand of government control is better than the democrats brand of government control (but they still want to control), I think - hope - that the rank and file democrat will recoil at the clear endorsement of terrorist tactics that Ellison is backing.
The GOP should have that picture, and videos of Antifa terrorists attacking people attempting to speak freely, broadcast on every race in the 2018 election cycle.
But alas they won’t. They’ll continue their tone deaf messaging of repealing Obamacare and closing the borders, with nothing to show for it, and allow themselves to get trounced by the weakest democrat party that I have seen in my adult lifetime.
Post by: Rush on January 05, 2018, 11:27:42 AM
I am a Conserva-tarian. Lots of Libertarian live, and let live leanings. I also don't like to be dictated to, and controlled by authority that is often corrupt. I am not into what some conservatives want to control in people's personal lives, but I think that is lessening with the decline of the religious right.
That is indeed probably a better description of me also. I like that term. I might start calling myself a conserva-tarian from now on.
The reasons are, I think libertarianism has partly been confiscated by some leftists who might be more anarchist socially and actually collectivist economically which makes no logical sense but then leftism never did in any of its forms ("The People's" never actually means it's best for the people. Always implies a self anointed ruling class that are actually low life thugs who took power violently.)
And secondly, even if I were to agree more often with the left than the right on issues, numerically, the issues I agree with the right on are so very important that when it comes down to it, meaning voting or a shooting war, I must side with conservatives. Specifically, economic freedom and second amendment rights. Without these two things nothing else really matters. Economic freedom brings a vibrant economy which brings your food and energy for survival and the right to stay armed defends that and everything else.
Post by: Anthony on January 05, 2018, 11:52:17 AM
LOL! :)
Post by: Rush on January 05, 2018, 05:51:47 PM
^^^^^^Rush, it is well known that you and I have been on the same page for years. Now I just have to get rid of Mark.
LOL! :)
:D :D :D hahaha, you just made my day!
Post by: Anthony on January 06, 2018, 09:15:07 AM
:D :D :D hahaha, you just made my day!
Anytime!
:)
Post by: nddons on January 06, 2018, 09:33:16 AM
Anytime!Get a room!
:)
Post by: Anthony on January 06, 2018, 01:55:58 PM
Get a room!
As I said, anytime! :)