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Spin Zone / Re: Symbols of Hatred
« on: August 19, 2017, 09:51:58 AM »
I was wondering what was up....

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Spin Zone / Braveheart
« on: August 12, 2017, 02:45:24 AM »

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Spin Zone / Re: Where's the Special Counsel for this?
« on: August 08, 2017, 09:02:33 AM »
Be very careful.

I'm pretty sure even discussing Loretta Lynch breaking the law is racist.

Or Eric Holder, and if you discuss Lynch you are racist, and sexist. 

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I do not like the man's politics, nor demeanor, but I would not wish ill on him.  I hope he recovers, and retires.

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Spin Zone / Re: NYT just can't let it go
« on: July 14, 2017, 07:36:19 AM »

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McCain is the worst scum. I am ashamed that he's a veteran, and a republican. Nothing McCain has ever done for the US in uniform is worth all the damage he's caused. Nothing.

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Spin Zone / Re: Internet flooded with new Trump vs CNN memes
« on: July 09, 2017, 06:48:24 AM »
If progressives had the ability to be adult, they would get tired of causing themselves such embarrassment.
How many times will they invite the entire world to kick them in the crotch before they learn anything???

Prime example:


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Also, at least the media is held accountable for lies.


HaHaHaHa,
That's the funniest thing  have read in a long time.  You can count on one hand, without using your thumb, the number of times a liberal reporter has been disciplined for outright lying.

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Spin Zone / Re: Google gets fined by EU for $2.71 Billion
« on: June 28, 2017, 08:10:06 AM »
The EU is NOT an elected body. It is a parasitic bureaucracy that acts without reasonable, or effective oversight and it is doing this for money, just like every other progressive organization on earth.
Like the pig, Jesse Jackson, Jr. Said, "It's all about the money."
Now that England is moving out, they have to steal from others to make up the difference, so they have money to force democracies to indulge their communist agenda.

Yeah, I got that. Which is why I called them 'autocrats' and not something else. But - the nations that make up the EU are supposed to be democracies? Germany was a republic, but I guess they are some kind of hybrid now. France is a democracy, UK, a parliamentary republic, etc. So, the EU sets a law, google supposedly violates it, EU fines them, and then google tells them to pound sand.

The question remains. If I was in charge of google I would tell the EU to get stuffed. There is NO WAY the EU powers would block the google URL. It just wouldn't happen. In fact, I might self-block the EU from accessing google URLs for a few days, just out of spite. Of course, that would cost money, but the alternative to knuckling under to the EU is unacceptable. Google owns the domain, they don't have to play nice about it. As much as I dislike google, their motives are fundamentally sound. Advance google, and the google brand(s). There are other search engines, plenty of them. Can you imagine if they forced Vauxall to advertise Peugeot cars along side Vauxall cars?  Lunacy

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Spin Zone / Re: What is wrong with Corporate America?
« on: June 19, 2017, 08:27:19 PM »
Then they have every right to stupid shit like this.  And we have every right to publicize it and to not shop there.

Of course.

Just wanted everyone to be aware that the company was essentially private and acting according to the principles of its owners. So their actions aren't generalizable to public companies.

I don't think I've ever purchased anything from Patagonia. I was vaguely aware they were run by ecological liberals, but had not bothered to research them till this thread appeared.

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Spin Zone / Re: Trump is a fucking moron
« on: June 16, 2017, 04:01:00 PM »
I love Trump's tweets and I am glad he continues to tweet.
Me too. If he stops tweeting, that is when I will worry.

Even diehard leftists must see that Twitter is Trump's way of cutting through the shitload of spin and hyperbole and lies they dump on him every day.

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Spin Zone / Re: An Example on How Out of Touch Hollywood Really Is
« on: June 14, 2017, 04:38:24 PM »
One thing liberal progressives NEVER show is any inclusive behaviors that include ANYONE who dares disagree with their agenda.

The most intolerant, racist, bigoted and downright ugly people I ever met were far left democrats, the same people who brought the world the KKK and Jim Crow laws.

Remember always, the Left accuses other of their own beliefs and actions. Some kind of psychological projection...

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Spin Zone / Re: One of the secrets of being old
« on: June 11, 2017, 10:18:21 AM »
"Relating to young people is no different than it was fifty years ago.
Instead of pretending to understand, or appreciate their style of music and entertainment, I ask open ended questions and see what comes next. Some young people are quite erudite and intelligent and some are airheads, which tracks with people of my generation.
The difference comes when smoke and vapor issues come up like 'social justice' and personal responsibility. Most young people have been indoctrinated into code words and trigger phrases that they cant define, nor apply with anything more than generalizations and flat out wrong retorts.

I think this is part of being a young adult. You come into awareness of broad social issues, and you take on the surface opinions floating around out there. There is a transition from just accepting what your parents taught you to what you imagine by comparison is "thinking for yourself" as an adult.  Unfortunately today the predominant opinions available are these code words and trigger phrases being trotted out by a media with a very biased agenda. So these young people are NOT actually thinking for themselves; they're taking on the culture around them with no more depth than when they simply accepted what their parents told them as a child. 

The next step in maturity is to dig deeper. Rather than believe for example that women are being unfairly compensated for work because of sexism just because you keep hearing this in the media and all your friends believe it, you question whether this is in fact true, and you work at gaining a more comprehensive understanding of the issue. This requires applying critical thinking, objectivity, willingness to accept new information, and so on. To fully appreciate the women's compensation issue, you even need to have a working knowledge of basic economics; supply and demand and so forth.  Over time you learn that issues aren't so simple, but there are layers of facts to be considered, that you simply aren't aware of when you first consider the idea.

For example when I was 14 the Vietnam War was in full force.  Because I never fit in with the popular kids at school, my friends were the nerds and rejects, and several of them were taking on the hippie culture. For my part, I saw on TV every day reports of Americans killed. Without much depth of thought or understanding, I took on the opinion the war was "bad" and we should get out of it, simply because my friends thought that and I had no more information than Americans were being killed and some of them were going to be my friends. Indeed a common topic of conversation with my male peers was the draft lottery.

Fortunately at age 14 I had not yet started writing letters to the editor or participating in any demonstrations so my opinion had no effect on society. By the time I started doing those things I had matured and come to a deeper understanding of the whole thing.  I came to understand how we become involved, WHY we were involved, and furthermore, the mistakes we made and the reasons we failed, and the reasons the anti-war activists were in fact wrong and caused much more needless damage, probably even causing us to lose the war. That's the difference between an immature opinion and a fully informed mature opinion.

Such nuanced concepts such as this: No matter whether it is right or wrong to have entered a war, once entered, you must fully support it to win as fast and as decisively as possible or you'll cause massively increased human suffering.  I didn't get that at age 14.  I do now.

I'm not saying my fully formed opinion is the correct one; someone else might have a different opinion but also based on a lot of critical thinking to support it.  There are so many different ways to study a thing we don't all come to identical conclusions.  I'm saying that young people go through a process of maturity that involves increasingly complex steps of thought in forming their views.  IN GENERAL the younger they are, the more shallow their opinion. They may FEEL deeply about it, but that's not the same as having performed deep objective examination.

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Rather than talk to a blank wall, its best to simply point out the facts and offer actual examples of things that accomplish something instead of sounding nice and PC.

Yes and you are helping them start the process of critical examination of all the facts. First they need to be made aware that there are facts outside their limited viewpoint. Hopefully that should be all that's needed to get them to explore the matter more deeply. To recognize propaganda is one of the first things they must learn.

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I too plant and care for flower beds, feed squirrels and birds, pet the neighbors dogs and engage their kids in discussions about the latest superhero, or really cool video game. When they grow up I try to engage them in substantive discussions about their future and their civic responsibility, which has become so old fashion that its about to become popular again.

Sounds like you're pretty cool.  One of the things wrong with our educational system and our lifestyles in general is that we segregate the generations.  Kids are put into classes with all the same age rather than benefiting from older ones and helping younger ones. Grandparents live in retirement farms now rather than staying in the home with the family. We've lost some of the benefits of young people being exposed to older people's ideas, and old people enjoying being around the optimistic energy of the young.

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Spin Zone / Voter Fraud
« on: June 09, 2017, 10:56:17 AM »
Of course we'll be told this (a) really didn't happen, (b) is an isolated case, makes no difference, or (c) "It's Trump's collusion with the Russians!!"

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/09/canvassers-for-dem-tied-group-charged-in-voter-registration-fraud-scheme.html

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Spin Zone / Re: First Arrest in Govt Leaks
« on: June 08, 2017, 10:58:05 AM »
Hello good people of pilotspin! There is no intro forum which is ok with me, so  I'll just get things started here. I'm a pilot(duh), and have been for decades. I fly a small SE prop plane around the US mostly. Look forward to engaging in lively comms with all of you.

Here's where the media doesn't tell you want you need to know.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/06/07/accused-nsa-leaker-reality-winners-motives-mystery-at-least-to-abc-nbc-and-cbs.html

Mainstream media can't seem to figure out that Winner is an alt-left radical socialist, motivated to bring down Trump any way she can.

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