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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Number7 on August 20, 2021, 04:15:02 PM
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For any Spin Zone members and families in the track of Henri, Be safe and take care.
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yikes!
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Between COVID and Global warming/climate change, we may just yet get the population down to a manageable level.
But I doubt it. I think we need to lose a couple of billion people to make a difference.
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um, let's not overreact. And, yes, I'm in New England (near KBED outside of Boston)
Sure, unlike Florida, the Carolinas, etc etc, we in New England rarely see an actual hurricane. But Henri probably won't even be a Cat 1 Hurricane by the time it proceeds over land.
You would be amazed at how TV stations, etc, are panicking, advising people to have plans for meeting up if they get separated during an evacuation... make sure you charge your electronics. oy.
Having said that, thanks for any well wishes.
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I agree with the above. The local TV is going apeshit over Henri paying us a visit. I almost broke out laughing on one of the Boston stations it seemed the weather girl was almost having an orgasm reporting about what conditions to expect, etc. I did fire up and check the generator today just in case. I don't expect anything worse than wind and rain here in southeast New Hampshire. Time will tell.
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Between COVID and Global warming/climate change, we may just yet get the population down to a manageable level.
But I doubt it. I think we need to lose a couple of billion people to make a difference.
Global warming/climate change is killing people?
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Global warming/climate change is killing people?
Don't know yet. A lot of people die from hurricanes and drought caused fires.
Climate change has been happening for as long as there has been a climate, and it will keep changing, and whole species will either adapt or die. Florida used to be underwater and it will be under water again some day. Where will all the people go?
In the past, war, pestilence and natural disasters have helped to control the population. If we continue to be successful at preventing that stuff, there will soon be way too many people and nature will resort to even more drastic measures to get it back under control and to sustainable levels.
I like my little acre on the river. "I want to be far from the madding crowd." I would rather die here when the ocean rises than to join the rest of the state in a mass evacuation and live in refugee centers or a condo tower on the 99th floor.
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Don't know yet. A lot of people die from hurricanes and drought caused fires.
Climate change has been happening for as long as there has been a climate, and it will keep changing, and whole species will either adapt or die. Florida used to be underwater and it will be under water again some day. Where will all the people go?
In the past, war, pestilence and natural disasters have helped to control the population. If we continue to be successful at preventing that stuff, there will soon be way too many people and nature will resort to even more drastic measures to get it back under control and to sustainable levels.
I like my little acre on the river. "I want to be far from the madding crowd." I would rather die here when the ocean rises than to join the rest of the state in a mass evacuation and live in refugee centers or a condo tower on the 99th floor.
I don’t think overpopulation will be a problem, the reverse will.
But you’re right. While I agree that news stations sensationalize and fearmonger, you can be caught totally off guard by weather. In 1996 central NC, far inland, was devastated by Hurricane Fran. NOBODY saw it coming. Not the forecasters, not the residents, and in that case there was no overzealous news warnings to make fun of, there were no warnings at all, not to us, it was all directed at the coast as usual.
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I don’t think overpopulation will be a problem, the reverse will.
Why do you think under population will be the problem? Of even A problem?
Are you saying that you think the population will actually shrink, or that we need continuous growth in population? What could cause the population to shrink other than War, pestilence and global climate change? (Notice, never did I say MAN-MADE climate change).
The higher the population, the denser the urban cities will become. What happens to politics when that happens? Socialism reigns. I would love for the population to be cut in half. Perhaps not immediately, but a steady decline. Bonus points if it were the stupid lazy people that went first.
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Why do you think under population will be the problem? Of even A problem?
Are you saying that you think the population will actually shrink, or that we need continuous growth in population? What could cause the population to shrink other than War, pestilence and global climate change? (Notice, never did I say MAN-MADE climate change).
The higher the population, the denser the urban cities will become. What happens to politics when that happens? Socialism reigns. I would love for the population to be cut in half. Perhaps not immediately, but a steady decline. Bonus points if it were the stupid lazy people that went first.
As nations modernize women have less children and you get to a point they are having less than the replacement rate. Things are headed in that direction everywhere except Africa and India although in India the annual growth rate has been steadily declining since about 1950 and their population total is projected to top out in 2050 and then to actually start decreasing.
China is in a panic now as they’re facing a population implosion as their growth rate is tanking. I guess the one child policy worked too well and after loosening to two child in 2015 they already went to three just this past May and I expect will abandon all limits as their citizens fail to want three kids. You might see them go from forced abortion and forced sterilization to banning contraceptives and abortions.
The world population’s growth rate as a whole peaked in 1962 and been declining ever since. The time it took for the world’s population to double got less and less up until 1987 at 37 years but now has reversed and is projected to be 48 years in 2023 and up to 109 years in 2100 however if fertility continues falling at the rate it has been, a peak world population will be reached at around 11 billion after which it will begin to decline. So while the population total is still increasing, the rate of increase is absolutely crashing and there are no signs that’s going to change. Meanwhile old people continue to die so eventually the line is crossed with more dying than being born and it looks like that’s the direction we’re going.
However it’s very difficult to see the coming problem as we’ve grown up watching the world’s population rocket skyward in the past couple centuries, AND, as you point out, people move to the cities making them more densely crowded making it feel like overpopulation is out of control. But the rural areas are being emptied.
So yeah I think it’s going to be a big problem, unless we stabilize out somewhere. I see no scenario we will continue to grow much past 11 billion. Women are not going to go back to having a baby every 3 years, ever. Unless we manage to bomb ourselves back to the Stone Age.
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Why do you think under population will be the problem? Of even A problem?
Are you saying that you think the population will actually shrink, or that we need continuous growth in population? What could cause the population to shrink other than War, pestilence and global climate change? (Notice, never did I say MAN-MADE climate change).
The higher the population, the denser the urban cities will become. What happens to politics when that happens? Socialism reigns. I would love for the population to be cut in half. Perhaps not immediately, but a steady decline. Bonus points if it were the stupid lazy people that went first.
What is definitely a problem in the United States is that we have fewer and fewer young people to sustain the social safety net and runaway governmental spending. It’s math.
Second, the US feeds the world. Farmers are having a tough go at it, aren’t appreciated, and are selling their land to real estate developers, or worse, the federal government.
The overpopulation thing is hyperbole that has been talked about for 60 years. If there’s food/water shortages, it has nothing to do with lack of supply.
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What is definitely a problem in the United States is that we have fewer and fewer young people to sustain the social safety net and runaway governmental spending. It’s math.
Second, the US feeds the world. Farmers are having a tough go at it, aren’t appreciated, and are selling their land to real estate developers, or worse, the federal government.
The overpopulation thing is hyperbole that has been talked about for 60 years. If there’s food/water shortages, it has nothing to do with lack of supply.
Don’t forget the communist Chinese buying up our farmland and buying into large farming/food producers.
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We just got back from the store and it was a zoo. People were buying bottled water like crazy. We can't figure out what's going on, there's no hurricane warnings here (for once).