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Pilot Zone => Pilot Zone => Topic started by: acrogimp on November 01, 2015, 09:05:16 PM

Title: Travel Policy and the 10 hr trip to PHX from SAN
Post by: acrogimp on November 01, 2015, 09:05:16 PM
Our current company travel policy prohibits flying myself in the Yak or in a Club plane, and I have to be in PHX tomorrow to kick off a new project with a new customer.

Left the house at 3:30, plan was fly out Sunday evening via the Majors (Delta), get a good night's sleep, and jump in bright eyed and bushy tailed at 0800.

WAS being the operative term. 

1 hr delay out of SAN, followed by 2 hr delay out of LAX, was going to arrive around 9:30PM, now will not make my hotel until 1AM.

Would literally have been 3 hours faster to drive my Jeep from my house to Mesa.  The Yak with a fuel stop would have been 6 hrs faster.  172RG or 182 would have been 7 hrs faster.

AAAAARGH!!!

Sitting here in LAX, with a COMM-ASEL/Instr........working up a proposed change to the travel policy ;D

'Gimp
Title: Re: Travel Policy and the 10 hr trip to PHX from SAN
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 01, 2015, 09:25:09 PM
Is it a liability thing?  Hope you get some good sleep!
Title: Re: Travel Policy and the 10 hr trip to PHX from SAN
Post by: nddons on November 02, 2015, 05:41:46 AM
That's frustrating.

Is your Yak IFR capable?
Title: Re: Travel Policy and the 10 hr trip to PHX from SAN
Post by: DJTorrente on November 02, 2015, 11:25:53 AM
Does your company book your travel for you or are you on your own?  Can you tell them you'd rather drive?  Google maps says its about 350 miles and 5+ hrs one way.  Honestly, at that distance, I'm never flying commercial anyway.  The overhead hassle getting to and from the airport on either end, security waits, doesn't save anything -- time, money or aggravation.  And if your expense report lists 355 miles at the IRS approved ~$0.51 per mile, who's to say you didn't drive?
Title: Re: Travel Policy and the 10 hr trip to PHX from SAN
Post by: nddons on November 02, 2015, 12:37:19 PM

Does your company book your travel for you or are you on your own?  Can you tell them you'd rather drive?  Google maps says its about 350 miles and 5+ hrs one way.  Honestly, at that distance, I'm never flying commercial anyway.  The overhead hassle getting to and from the airport on either end, security waits, doesn't save anything -- time, money or aggravation.  And if your expense report lists 355 miles at the IRS approved ~$0.51 per mile, who's to say you didn't drive?

I do the same thing when going to Minneapolis. It's a 5 hour drive, vs a 1 hour flight by airliner. But add boarding 30 minutes earlier, getting to the airport an hour before that, a 45 minute drive to the airport, and probably 45 minutes minimum to downtown MLPS.  So call it 1 hour longer driving, but that presumes the flight times are when I want them, which never happens. I call it a push.
Title: Re: Travel Policy and the 10 hr trip to PHX from SAN
Post by: Mr Pou on November 03, 2015, 07:28:04 AM
My general rule of thumb is if you can drive it in 6 or less, you can meet or beat the airlines.
Title: Re: Travel Policy and the 10 hr trip to PHX from SAN
Post by: pilot_dude on November 03, 2015, 02:33:41 PM
My general rule of thumb is if you can drive it in 6 or less, you can meet or beat the airlines.
I'm a little less generous using 5 hours as the threshold.
Title: Re: Travel Policy and the 10 hr trip to PHX from SAN
Post by: Docmirror on November 11, 2015, 10:49:12 AM
We took a flight to Cayman Is last month, and my wife was complaining about the trip time. I told her the Bonanza was faster, and she said 'bovine scatology' or words to that effect.

So, when we get there, and sat down with a beer I told her that from the time we left the house, to the time we cleared customs in Georgetown, it was 11:38 by comm, and none of that was discretionary, meaning we HAD to leave the house at 03:20 to reach the plane, or we would forfeit our tickets. However, we could hop in our plane, stop at the customs airport briefly on the way out, stop for gas in Cancun for an hour for gas and pee and we would still get in less than 11 hours. So, we could leave at 5:30 am and get in at 4:30 pm with no groping. Then coming home we could do the same thing. It would cost us about the same, maybe a bit less when we added in the airport parking, and the three tickets round trip.
Title: Re: Travel Policy and the 10 hr trip to PHX from SAN
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on January 03, 2016, 09:30:54 PM
We took a flight to Cayman Is last month, and my wife was complaining about the trip time. I told her the Bonanza was faster, and she said 'bovine scatology' or words to that effect.

So, when we get there, and sat down with a beer I told her that from the time we left the house, to the time we cleared customs in Georgetown, it was 11:38 by comm, and none of that was discretionary, meaning we HAD to leave the house at 03:20 to reach the plane, or we would forfeit our tickets. However, we could hop in our plane, stop at the customs airport briefly on the way out, stop for gas in Cancun for an hour for gas and pee and we would still get in less than 11 hours. So, we could leave at 5:30 am and get in at 4:30 pm with no groping. Then coming home we could do the same thing. It would cost us about the same, maybe a bit less when we added in the airport parking, and the three tickets round trip.

Anyone ever tell you that you look a lot like Number 7?