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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Lucifer on October 30, 2016, 07:18:06 AM

Title: Karma
Post by: Lucifer on October 30, 2016, 07:18:06 AM
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/flashback-clinton-cheered-11th-hour-indictment-that-doomed-bush-reelection/article/2606000
Title: Re: Karma
Post by: LevelWing on October 30, 2016, 07:32:09 AM
Irony at its best. Just a few months ago the Democrats were lauding Comey and trotting around saying that Clinton was cleared because she didn't do anything wrong. Now they're attacking him and saying he's trying to influence a presidential election. I'm very interested in seeing the poll numbers this week.
Title: Re: Karma
Post by: Lucifer on October 30, 2016, 07:36:22 AM
Comey knows about something and he's in ass saving mode.

IMO, Weiner tipped off the FBI about the emails in an effort to save himself from jail.   And I believe a large part of the 33,000 missing emails are on that computer.
Title: Re: Karma
Post by: Anthony on October 30, 2016, 07:45:15 AM
Hillary, and Bill are obvious CRIMINALS.  They have skirted the law, and have been given a pass due to their political status, and now status as puppets of Soros, and foreign governments, and interests.  They have become wealthy from selling influence to enemies of the U.S.  They are traitors of the highest order.  The media has largely covered up, and under reported their illegal, unethical, and immoral activities.  It is about time the rule of law re-emerges in this country, and they finally get what is coming to them.     
Title: Re: Karma
Post by: LevelWing on October 30, 2016, 07:51:18 AM
Comey knows about something and he's in ass saving mode.

IMO, Weiner tipped off the FBI about the emails in an effort to save himself from jail.   And I believe a large part of the 33,000 missing emails are on that computer.
At this point, anything is possible. Despite Comey not saying what was in the emails and still needing to review them, he has to have an idea of what's contained in them. There are a lot of people (mainly on the Democratic and/or Clinton campaign side) saying that these could just be duplicate emails. I'm sure some may very well be duplicates but if that's all they were then Comey wouldn't have sent the letter he did.

Comey said his team briefed him on Thursday. That gave him the rest of Thursday into Friday to draft that letter and send it which means he also had time to think about the implications of what he was about to do. Logic says there is something in those emails that was a big enough concern for him to send the letter. The next question is whether or not we'll get any more information before the election on what's in those emails.
Title: Re: Karma
Post by: bflynn on October 30, 2016, 07:52:54 AM
Comey knows about something and he's in ass saving mode.

I would say that the obvious conclusion is that they found emails which were relevant to their investigation which Hillary did not turn over.  If so, Hillary is guilty of obstruction of justice. 

It doesn't matter if the emails even contain incriminating information.  If they might be relevant and they were absent then it is proven.  The actual crime (mishandling classified information) might be minor.  The obstruction charge is what sinks you.
Title: Re: Karma
Post by: LevelWing on October 30, 2016, 08:03:55 AM
I would say that the obvious conclusion is that they found emails which were relevant to their investigation which Hillary did not turn over.  If so, Hillary is guilty of obstruction of justice. 

It doesn't matter if the emails even contain incriminating information.  If they might be relevant and they were absent then it is proven.  The actual crime (mishandling classified information) might be minor.  The obstruction charge is what sinks you.
What about lying to the FBI? We know she lied based on Comey's testimony to Congress.
Title: Re: Karma
Post by: bflynn on October 30, 2016, 08:10:58 AM
What about lying to the FBI? We know she lied based on Comey's testimony to Congress.

I'm sure there is some Clintonian explanation.  "She never sent emails containing classified material"....is not the same as never receiving emails containing classified material, nor being careless in her handling of it. 

BTW, if I had been as careless as her in handling classified material, I would still be in Leavenworth making little rocks out of big rocks...and I was just a torpedoman knuckledragger on a submarine. 
Title: Re: Karma
Post by: Little Joe on October 30, 2016, 08:18:10 AM
I know all about the  Clinton's getting a pass because they are, well, ... Clinton's.

But I just don't understand how they got a pass when, after their emails were subpoenaed, they deleted 30,000 of them on their own with the feeble justification of "they were personal". 

Am I mistaken about this?  How could the justice department just ignore that?  Am I wrong in thinking that once something is subpoenaed, it MUST be turned over?
Title: Re: Karma
Post by: Anthony on October 30, 2016, 08:27:42 AM
I know all about the  Clinton's getting a pass because they are, well, ... Clinton's.

But I just don't understand how they got a pass when, after their emails were subpoenaed, they deleted 30,000 of them on their own with the feeble justification of "they were personal". 

Am I mistaken about this?  How could the justice department just ignore that?  Am I wrong in thinking that once something is subpoenaed, it MUST be turned over?

Loretta Lynch, and the Justice Department are political operatives, an arm of the Obama Admin, and the Democrat machine.  They are not accountable to anyone else unless there is some kind of revolution, and they get pulled out of their limousines, and get tarred, and feathered. 
Title: Re: Karma
Post by: nddons on October 30, 2016, 09:11:27 AM
Ugh. For the first time in at least 8 years I watched This Week with  George "Clinton Apologist" Stephanopoulos, to see what the other side has to say about this.  Disgusting lack of concern about the potential substance of this letter, with 100% of the focus on the political implications to Clinton.

No need to watch ABC news any more.
Title: Re: Karma
Post by: Lucifer on October 30, 2016, 09:16:12 AM
Ugh. For the first time in at least 8 years I watched This Week with  George "Clinton Apologist" Stephanopoulos, to see what the other side has to say about this.  Disgusting lack of concern about the potential substance of this letter, with 100% of the focus on the political implications to Clinton.

No need to watch ABC news any more.

ABC?  The "All 'bout Clinton" super PAC?
Title: Re: Karma
Post by: Anthony on October 30, 2016, 09:41:19 AM
Ugh. For the first time in at least 8 years I watched This Week with  George "Clinton Apologist" Stephanopoulos, to see what the other side has to say about this.  Disgusting lack of concern about the potential substance of this letter, with 100% of the focus on the political implications to Clinton.

No need to watch ABC news any more.

George Stephanopoulos is just another media Democrat/Clinton operative like many on ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, PBS, MSNBC, etc.  As you know he was Bill Clinton's Press Secretary before he went to ABC and became a "news" person.  What a joke. 
Title: Re: Karma
Post by: PaulS on October 30, 2016, 12:14:12 PM
They are attacking Hillary because she is a woman.



(Since no Hillary supporters have chimed in I figured I would make the spurious argument for them.
Title: Re: Karma
Post by: bflynn on October 30, 2016, 01:26:55 PM
Are there people here who are young?  Young enough to not know that Stephenapolis was White House Director of Communications and later Senior Advisor under Bill Clinton?  I ask because if you do not know this then you grant him some measure of neutrality when in fact he has always been a huge supporter of the Clintons. 

How young?  He left the White House in 1996, 20 years ago. Depending on how much attention you paid to politics as a kid, you could be 49 and not know.
Title: Re: Karma
Post by: JeffDG on October 30, 2016, 02:05:48 PM
Are there people here who are young?  Young enough to not know that Stephenapolis was White House Director of Communications and later Senior Advisor under Bill Clinton?  I ask because if you do not know this then you grant him some measure of neutrality when in fact he has always been a huge supporter of the Clintons. 

How young?  He left the White House in 1996, 20 years ago. Depending on how much attention you paid to politics as a kid, you could be 49 and not know.
I'm not yet 49, I lived in another country at the time, and I know who Stephanopolis was back then.
Title: Re: Karma
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on October 30, 2016, 03:09:39 PM
I'm not yet 49, I lived in another country at the time, and I know who Stephanopolis was back then.

Some people pay attention to world events.

Some people pay attention to such food for intelligent thought as The Bachelor, Survivor, The View, and Jersey Shore
Title: Re: Karma
Post by: bflynn on October 30, 2016, 04:30:38 PM
I'm not yet 49, I lived in another country at the time, and I know who Stephanopolis was back then.

At 49 you should and you would not be the answer to my question "Are there young people here"...
Title: Re: Karma
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on October 30, 2016, 04:46:02 PM
At 49 you should and you would not be the answer to my question "Are there young people here"...

um, nit pick alert:  He said "not yet 49"

Title: Re: Karma
Post by: Little Joe on October 30, 2016, 04:53:11 PM
um, nit pick alert:  He said "not yet 49"
I read that as "almost, but not quite 49".
So as far as nit picks go, that is one itty bitty nit.
Title: Karma
Post by: JeffDG on October 30, 2016, 04:55:28 PM
I read that as "almost, but not quite 49".
So as far as nit picks go, that is one itty bitty nit.
To be clear, the age 49 was specifically mentioned as an age that someone could be ignorant of Stephanopolis.

And I'm several years short of that age.


Sent from my iPad . Squirrel!!
Title: Re: Karma
Post by: Little Joe on October 30, 2016, 05:02:27 PM
To be clear, the age 49 was specifically mentioned as an age that someone could be ignorant of Stephanopolis.

And I'm several years short of that age.


Sent from my iPad . Squirrel!!
Ok.  I believe that.
And it explains a lot.
Title: Re: Karma
Post by: bflynn on October 30, 2016, 05:21:34 PM
LOL - ok, I see.  I typed that on my phone where I have big fingers and little key buttons.  The age should have been 40.  My rationale was that at age 40, you were 20 years old when Stephanopolis left the White House.  Someone who was focused on college activities at age 20 could be oblivious to who he is.  I know there are college students today who don't know who the vice president is, let alone the Senior Advisor to the President.
Title: Re: Karma
Post by: asechrest on October 30, 2016, 07:26:15 PM

I'm 36. I know who Steph was/is. But I enjoy keeping up with politics and national events, so I am perhaps atypical.