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Spin Zone / Re: The Charlottesville Lie

« on: August 07, 2019, 05:50:45 PM »

Goebbels would have been down right envious of the modern MSM.

And while we're on the subject:

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prop·a·gan·da
/ˌpräpəˈɡandə/
noun
1. information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.

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Spin Zone / Re: The Charlottesville Lie

« on: August 07, 2019, 01:17:21 PM »

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Spin Zone / Re: The Charlottesville Lie

« on: August 07, 2019, 08:33:02 AM »

Quote from: Little Joe on August 07, 2019, 08:14:57 AM

I guess its the "well regulated" part that needs a little clarification. Like I asked before, are those mass murderers part of the well regulated militia?

Please go read up on the history of the second amendment. It's quite extensive and there is hours upon hours of reading on it.

For a quick review

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Spin Zone / Re: The Charlottesville Lie

« on: August 07, 2019, 08:10:36 AM »

Quote from: Little Joe on August 07, 2019, 08:04:43 AM

Doctors. Maybe psychiatrists. I wasn't saying everyone would have to be tested for mental illness. Just that if they have already been tested, then that would be taken into consideration. Sort of like the FAA does.

Yeah, that can be a legitimate objection.

I like this law and it's wording, I think it was careful crafted with purpose: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

I really like the "shall not be infringed" part.

I like the "shall not be infringed" part, but the first part sucks. Would you call those mass murderers part of a "well regulated militia"? Who does the regulating?

I like Trump's suggestion of swift execution of those mass murderers. Preferably while in the act. The only problem with that is that it opens up a viable procedure for suicide by cop.

Actually the first part makes perfect sense when read in the context it was written under. We had just got out from under the British and our founding fathers realized guns were necessary " being necessary to the security of a free State". The militia? That's all of us who will pick up a gun and defend our country.

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Spin Zone / Re: The Charlottesville Lie

« on: August 07, 2019, 07:52:33 AM »

Quote from: Little Joe on August 07, 2019, 07:46:57 AM

Just out of curiosity, what would be the consensus of a Federal program that would "allow" anyone in the country to apply for a license to own a firearm. It would be completely separate from the purchase process, except that you have to have the license in order to own a gun.

The process would include things like criminal back ground checks, permanent address, personal contact information, past mental illness diagnoses, citizenship status and whether you are a Republican or not (ok, that last one was tongue in cheek). It would be sort of like have TSA pre-check.

Perhaps passage of such legislation could be tied to immigration reform. (and I'll be the first to admit that I hate the term "reform" when both sides will have a completely different idea of what "reform" means, but if we are going to give up even that little bit of privacy, we should get something in return for it.

Just throwing that out to see what the objections will be.

"Mental Illness Diagnosis". And who will define this?

Remember, once you allow wording into legislation then it's up to the unelected bureaucrats at the federal level to draft regulations to comply with the laws. I can see where that wording alone could open up a can of worms.

I like this law and it's wording, I think it was careful crafted with purpose: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

I really like the "shall not be infringed" part.

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Spin Zone / Re: Is President Trump to blame for the recent Mass Shootings?

« on: August 07, 2019, 07:06:06 AM »

Quote from: Anthony on August 07, 2019, 06:58:02 AM

Obama is a piece of sh*t. I can't stand him and he's lowered the ex-Presidency to a horrid standard. He is the first ex-President to be actively involved in only negative commentary about the opposing party Trump, and the Republicans. Even fat ass Michelle gets in on the act, which I believe is also a first, except for Hillary who became an active politician, so that doesn't count.

The Democrats have no standards. Many talk about how bad Trump is for his statements. Have you looked at what the Democrats, and their supporters say about Trump, and White American Citizens that are far left progressive bobble heads?

Projection.

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Spin Zone / Re: The Charlottesville Lie

« on: August 07, 2019, 07:04:57 AM »

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Spin Zone / Re: Is President Trump to blame for the recent Mass Shootings?

« on: August 07, 2019, 06:48:32 AM »

Nope.

Conman BHO even jumped in and tried to blame Trump, and Trump promptly reminded him of the mass shootings that happened under his administration and that OBAMA DID NOTHING.

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Spin Zone / Re: The Charlottesville Lie

« on: August 06, 2019, 08:29:17 PM »

Quote from: azure on August 06, 2019, 08:16:03 PM

What does that have to do with Sanders's chances this time around?

A lot. Sanders has others within the party he's seeking the nomination (he's an independent) that are more than happy to pull the knives out and take him down.

Next, while the lunatic fringe progressives have hijacked the democrat party, they are still a small minority. While that fringe may support Bernie, he can gain no traction with the moderate side of the party.

Next, when Bernie ran in 2016, nationally he was relatively unknown, thus why he garnished so much support. Those voters were listening to the message of the moment without realizing his background. We've now had almost 4 years of Bernie and now he's nationally known, and more about him is known, which is to his detriment.

I'll give Bernie this: He is what you see, he doesn't try to hide it. He's a full blown hard core socialist and proud of it. And he's made it clear he would have no problem taxing everyone into oblivion to achieve his goals.

The message "I will implement socialism and raise your taxes" is not a winner.

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