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Title: More mainstreamers changing tune
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 01, 2016, 03:27:16 PM
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Title: Re: More mainstreamers changing tune
Post by: Mase on November 01, 2016, 04:03:06 PM
Hard to believe Matthews said that.  Amazing.
Title: Re: More mainstreamers changing tune
Post by: LevelWing on November 02, 2016, 04:10:52 AM
I have to wonder if they're changing their tune because they see the writing on the wall and don't want to be seen as having endorsed a corrupt and criminal candidate/president. That won't look good for them later on if they've done nothing but endorse her and it turns out she's indicted or has to resign.
Title: Re: More mainstreamers changing tune
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on November 02, 2016, 06:52:01 AM
I have to wonder if they're changing their tune because they see the writing on the wall and don't want to be seen as having endorsed a corrupt and criminal candidate/president. That won't look good for them later on if they've done nothing but endorse her and it turns out she's indicted or has to resign.

They're all trying to get out of a reserved space in the Trump Gulag that they are expecting. Bunch of weasels.
Title: Re: More mainstreamers changing tune
Post by: Rush on November 02, 2016, 07:37:29 AM
I have to wonder if they're changing their tune because they see the writing on the wall and don't want to be seen as having endorsed a corrupt and criminal candidate/president. That won't look good for them later on if they've done nothing but endorse her and it turns out she's indicted or has to resign.

Oh absolutely. If the leftist media suddenly "sees the light" it's not because they gained an appreciation overnight of free market economics.  It's because they are scrambling to keep their side of the bread buttered and keep their own asses out of trouble.
Title: Re: More mainstreamers changing tune
Post by: Anthony on November 02, 2016, 09:19:38 AM
Oh absolutely. If the leftist media suddenly "sees the light" it's not because they gained an appreciation overnight of free market economics.  It's because they are scrambling to keep their side of the bread buttered and keep their own asses out of trouble.

Exactly.  Spot on as usual Rushy!  :)
Title: Re: More mainstreamers changing tune
Post by: bflynn on November 02, 2016, 03:47:54 PM
In the RCP No toss Up map, Hillary is barely ahead, 273 to 265.  But their polling system lags because they are still including polls from two weeks ago.

 The difference is Colorado.
Title: Re: More mainstreamers changing tune
Post by: Little Joe on November 02, 2016, 04:28:55 PM
In the RCP No toss Up map, Hillary is barely ahead, 273 to 265.  But their polling system lags because they are still including polls from two weeks ago.

 The difference is Colorado.
Maybe Jeff's "best case" 269-269 scenario will happen.
Title: Re: More mainstreamers changing tune
Post by: Lucifer on November 02, 2016, 05:02:13 PM
Maybe Jeff's "best case" 269-269 scenario will happen.

 That's just Jeff's wet dream.
Title: Re: More mainstreamers changing tune
Post by: LevelWing on November 03, 2016, 12:13:47 AM
In the RCP No toss Up map, Hillary is barely ahead, 273 to 265.  But their polling system lags because they are still including polls from two weeks ago.

 The difference is Colorado.
There are several different maps that I've seen that lead to a  Trump victory. In a lot of them, it looks as if New Hampshire was a key state in a Trump victory. I don't think Trump will win Colorado though he has now apparently flipped Nevada and is closing the gap in Pennsylvania. If he gets Pennsylvania (assuming he gets Florida and Ohio), I think he wins. Pennsylvania is also probably a long shot but it is 2016, so anything is possible.
Title: Re: More mainstreamers changing tune
Post by: bflynn on November 03, 2016, 05:48:29 AM
Maybe Jeff's "best case" 269-269 scenario will happen.

It voting happened today, it could happen.  With the 273-265 vote, they have New Hampshire and Colorado in the Democrat column.

BUT...I look today and New Hampshire's last poll is +2 Trump.  Colorado is a Tie.  Both of these last polls are mostly from after Comey's investigation announcement.  So, if NH went Red and Colorado goes blue, it becomes 269-269 and you could easily make a case that's legitimately where it is right now.

Or Colorado could flip and then it's an outright Trump win.  Way too close to tell, the key states are within the margin of error.
Title: Re: More mainstreamers changing tune
Post by: nddons on November 03, 2016, 08:19:50 AM
There are several different maps that I've seen that lead to a  Trump victory. In a lot of them, it looks as if New Hampshire was a key state in a Trump victory. I don't think Trump will win Colorado though he has now apparently flipped Nevada and is closing the gap in Pennsylvania. If he gets Pennsylvania (assuming he gets Florida and Ohio), I think he wins. Pennsylvania is also probably a long shot but it is 2016, so anything is possible.
Watch the MSM call Florida for Hillary within seconds of polls closing to suppress voter enthusiasm in the Mountain and Pacific time zones.
Title: Re: More mainstreamers changing tune
Post by: Lucifer on November 03, 2016, 08:22:40 AM
Watch the MSM call Florida for Hillary within seconds of polls closing to suppress voter enthusiasm in the Mountain and Pacific time zones.

Yep.
Title: Re: More mainstreamers changing tune
Post by: LevelWing on November 03, 2016, 09:31:18 AM
Watch the MSM call Florida for Hillary within seconds of polls closing to suppress voter enthusiasm in the Mountain and Pacific time zones.
That wouldn't surprise me in the least. It's too bad you wouldn't be able to prove that being a case of voter fraud.
Title: Re: More mainstreamers changing tune
Post by: nddons on November 03, 2016, 11:35:57 AM
That wouldn't surprise me in the least. It's too bad you wouldn't be able to prove that being a case of voter fraud.
Yep, it gets lost in the cloud called "journalistic judgement."