Post by: Mase on July 12, 2016, 06:56:59 PM
And Chief Brown:
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on July 12, 2016, 07:04:59 PM
Post by: nddons on July 12, 2016, 07:57:32 PM
Somehow Obama couldn't figure out he was speaking at a MEMORIAL service. There are times when you just leave the political shit at home.I heard his speech. Obama is a filthy pig.
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on July 12, 2016, 09:48:31 PM
Somehow Obama couldn't figure out he was speaking at a MEMORIAL service. There are times when you just leave the political shit at home.
Obama is a fucking idiot. The only bigger idiots are the 54% that voted for him. Twice.
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on July 13, 2016, 04:06:43 AM
Obama is a fucking idiot. The only bigger idiots are the 54% that voted for him. Twice.
but but but obama has accomplished so much...
Post by: Little Joe on July 13, 2016, 05:25:52 AM
but but but obama has accomplished so much...Yep. He's responsible for the backlash that brought us Trump.
Post by: Jaybird180 on July 13, 2016, 07:28:30 AM
Funny chit.
Post by: Jaybird180 on July 13, 2016, 07:31:07 AM
See the way Michelle looks at him between :23 and :35
Post by: MarkZ on July 13, 2016, 09:07:06 AM
I heard his speech. Obama is a filthy pig.
What did he say this time that got y'all hot and bothered?
Post by: Little Joe on July 13, 2016, 09:11:15 AM
What did he say this time that got y'all hot and bothered?Doesn't matter. I didn't hear is speech, but he still has me hot and bothered. Mainly because of his "you didn't build that comment". Until he recants that statement, nothing he says will ever placate me.
Post by: nddons on July 13, 2016, 09:11:45 AM
What did he say this time that got y'all hot and bothered?He turned a memorial service into a political rally. Did you not see his speech? It was not the time nor the place. Do you think the families of the slain officers needed to be lectured about race, by the POTUS, at that time? Obviously, a good little progressive community organizer like Obama just couldn't help himself. Or more than likely could not have cared less. Never let a crisis go to waste, right?
Post by: MarkZ on July 13, 2016, 09:37:39 AM
He turned a memorial service into a political rally. Did you not see his speech? It was not the time nor the place. Do you think the families of the slain officers needed to be lectured about race, by the POTUS, at that time? Obviously, a good little progressive community organizer like Obama just couldn't help himself. Or more than likely could not have cared less. Never let a crisis go to waste, right?
I guess we all hear what we want to hear.
I read the transcript and listened to the speech. He praised LEO's and called on citizens' support of our LEO's more than he cited race (which he did too - after all it IS an issue). However, despite his call for support, he did remind everyone that issues within not only the LEO community but our country's overall culture exists.
If that's what causes consternation with you, I can empathize. I think though, given your impression of him being a "good little progressive community organizer," that he could have said everything you wanted a conservative to say, and you'd still find problems with it.
Post by: MarkZ on July 13, 2016, 09:43:44 AM
Doesn't matter. I didn't hear is speech, but he still has me hot and bothered. Mainly because of his "you didn't build that comment". Until he recants that statement, nothing he says will ever placate me.
The funny thing is, right-wing media took one comment out of context and built a slogan of hate around it.
Again, people hear what they want to hear. If someone is pre-disposed to hate or oppose someone, they will find every snippet or comment despicable, no matter how distorted they make the message.
Post by: Lucifer on July 13, 2016, 10:01:25 AM
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on July 13, 2016, 10:16:57 AM
The funny thing is, right-wing media took one comment out of context and built a slogan of hate around it.
Again, people hear what they want to hear. If someone is pre-disposed to hate or oppose someone, they will find every snippet or comment despicable, no matter how distorted they make the message.
My issue with obama goes back to before the 08 election: "spreading the wealth around a little" and the granddaddy "fundamentally changing the united states of america." How that didn't result in a landslide for McCain is proof that the media is 100% complicit.
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on July 13, 2016, 10:17:21 AM
Obama used the speech as an opportunity to push his agenda on gun control which was wrong (this was a memorial service, not a political rally) and in poor taste.
Never let a good crisis go to waste. Despicable.
Post by: Little Joe on July 13, 2016, 11:09:36 AM
The funny thing is, right-wing media took one comment out of context and built a slogan of hate around it.When I heard the media sound bites about that, I was so astounded I couldn't believe he actually said it, so I searched out and watched the whole speech. He may have made a decent statement or two, but he really did say that, and he meant it. Since I had a business that I thought I built from the ground up with my own sweat equity, and substantial risk of life savings, I found his comments entirely without merit and indicative of someone with absolutely no respect for the entrepreneurs that helped make this country as great as it was.
Again, people hear what they want to hear. If someone is pre-disposed to hate or oppose someone, they will find every snippet or comment despicable, no matter how distorted they make the message.
For the first few years, I took home much less than minimum wage. Once I started hiring people, they were taking home more than I was. by the time I had finally built the business to the point that was looked at as "evil rich", the recession hit and for the next few years I dipped into my savings to pay my employees.
I built my business. But if I had been forced to pay my employees even more, especially in the beginning, I probably would have gone bankrupt.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on July 13, 2016, 11:10:51 AM
I guess we all hear what we want to hear.
I read the transcript and listened to the speech. He praised LEO's and called on citizens' support of our LEO's more than he cited race (which he did too - after all it IS an issue). However, despite his call for support, he did remind everyone that issues within not only the LEO community but our country's overall culture exists.
If that's what causes consternation with you, I can empathize. I think though, given your impression of him being a "good little progressive community organizer," that he could have said everything you wanted a conservative to say, and you'd still find problems with it.
It was a memorial service for five murdered policemen.
Post by: Jaybird180 on July 13, 2016, 01:50:33 PM
My issue with obama goes back to before the 08 election: "spreading the wealth around a little" and the granddaddy "fundamentally changing the united states of america." How that didn't result in a landslide for McCain is proof that the media is 100% complicit.Did you oppose George H.W. Bush's "New World Order"?
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on July 13, 2016, 01:56:23 PM
Did you oppose George H.W. Bush's "New World Order"?
No, that was necessary groundwork for the pulling of WTC7, Marv.
Post by: Little Joe on July 13, 2016, 02:08:31 PM
Did you oppose George H.W. Bush's "New World Order"?Do you mean his post cold war theory that we could cooperate with a defeated super power and help foster world peace?
Yes. I agreed with that.
But what does that have to do with anything that we are taking about?
Post by: nddons on July 13, 2016, 02:24:39 PM
I guess we all hear what we want to hear.Nope. If he would have spoken like George Bush, I would acknowledge it. And in fact the front part of his speech was pretty good. But then came the "but..." part of his speech. He clearly didn't give two shits about the families sitting in the front row. He had to give his lecture. It was pathetic.
I read the transcript and listened to the speech. He praised LEO's and called on citizens' support of our LEO's more than he cited race (which he did too - after all it IS an issue). However, despite his call for support, he did remind everyone that issues within not only the LEO community but our country's overall culture exists.
If that's what causes consternation with you, I can empathize. I think though, given your impression of him being a "good little progressive community organizer," that he could have said everything you wanted a conservative to say, and you'd still find problems with it.
Post by: Number7 on July 13, 2016, 05:24:46 PM
Do you mean his post cold war theory that we could cooperate with a defeated super power and help foster world peace?
Yes. I agreed with that.
But what does that have to do with anything that we are taking about?
The idea of America and Russia cooperating on a global level in trade and other economic ways was a great goal but misplayed, as often happens when America wins a war (this time a cold one) and then does everything in our power to lose the peace.
Post by: Mase on July 14, 2016, 05:05:17 AM
http://nypost.com/2016/07/12/how-obama-ruined-his-dallas-memorial-speech/ (http://nypost.com/2016/07/12/how-obama-ruined-his-dallas-memorial-speech/)
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on July 14, 2016, 12:06:20 PM
What did he say this time that got y'all hot and bothered?
Did obama really claim that it is easier for a teenager to buy a glock than get his hands on a book?
is obama really that stupid?
We need leadership, not f'n morons.
Post by: Mase on July 14, 2016, 12:09:51 PM
The idea of America and Russia cooperating on a global level in trade and other economic ways was a great goal but misplayed, as often happens when America wins a war (this time a cold one) and then does everything in our power to lose the peace.
It worked well with Japan and Germany. And Italy. But what is required is full, complete, unconditional surrender in the face of total destruction.
Post by: nddons on July 14, 2016, 12:15:29 PM
Did obama really claim that it is easier for a teenager to buy a glock than get his hands on a book?Yes, he did. THAT'S precisely what widows and fatherless children need to hear when their husbands and fathers are lying in caskets in front of them.
is obama really that stupid?
We need leadership, not f'n morons.
Post by: MarkZ on July 14, 2016, 05:41:05 PM
Yes, he did. THAT'S precisely what widows and fatherless children need to hear when their husbands and fathers are lying in caskets in front of them.
He could have cut his speech by more than half, and still have made his points.
Post by: Lucifer on July 14, 2016, 05:45:00 PM
He could have cut his speech by more than half, and still have made his points.
Why would he need to go to a memorial service to "make his point"?
It's a memorial service for 5 cops who were gunned down, it was not a political event.
Post by: MarkZ on July 14, 2016, 05:49:02 PM
Why would he need to go to a memorial service to "make his point"?
It's a memorial service for 5 cops who were gunned down, it was not a political event.
Keep in mind in no place did I state I agreed with his tactics.
Post by: nddons on July 14, 2016, 06:40:52 PM
He could have cut his speech by more than half, and still have made his points.What points are you referencing?
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on July 14, 2016, 08:07:19 PM
Why would he need to go to a memorial service to "make his point"?
It's a memorial service for 5 cops who were gunned down, it was not a political event.
To Obama, everything is a political event.
Post by: MarkZ on July 14, 2016, 08:47:56 PM
What points are you referencing?It's pretty simple.
Racism still exists. Whether it be in the law enforcement community or with the general electorate, it's still a prevalent part of our society.
A general distrust and resentment of the law enforcement community also exists.
Finally, it is entirely too easy for a disturbed individual to acquire the weaponry necessary to murder innocents in situations like Aurora, VA Tech, Orlando, Dallas, etc.
I tend to agree with him on all but the last point. I'm not against gun control, but I think if we continue to pound our fists to maintain status quo, we aren't doing any favors to find solutions to the deep rooted problems facing our culture and nation.
Post by: nddons on July 14, 2016, 08:58:10 PM
It's pretty simple.
Racism still exists. Whether it be in the law enforcement community or with the general electorate, it's still a prevalent part of our society.
A general distrust and resentment of the law enforcement community also exists.
Finally, it is entirely too easy for a disturbed individual to acquire the weaponry necessary to murder innocents in situations like Aurora, VA Tech, Orlando, Dallas, etc.
I tend to agree with him on all but the last point. I'm not against gun control, but I think if we continue to pound our fists to maintain status quo, we aren't doing any favors to find solutions to the deep rooted problems facing our culture and nation.
And those are necessary "points" at a friggin' MEMORIAL SERVICE??? 😡
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on July 15, 2016, 02:26:21 AM
Finally, it is entirely too easy for a disturbed individual to acquire the weaponry necessary to murder innocents in situations like Aurora, VA Tech, Orlando, Dallas, etc.
I tend to agree with him on all but the last point. I'm not against gun control, but I think if we continue to pound our fists to maintain status quo, we aren't doing any favors to find solutions to the deep rooted problems facing our culture and nation.
If we continue to pound our fists focusing on "assault weapons" and lie about how easy it is to legally obtain a gun, we won't make any progress addressing the root causes of violence and crime.
and more generally, I'm still looking for the anti-gun folks to define "assault weapon"
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on July 15, 2016, 05:30:57 AM
Post by: MarkZ on July 15, 2016, 06:35:44 AM
And those are necessary "points" at a friggin' MEMORIAL SERVICE??? 😡
You had five police officers murdered in cold blood by a lunatic who told police he was going to take as many cops out as he could before they got him.
The last massacre had a similar story, only substitute gays for cops.
I'm guessing Obama was trying to tell folks "it's gonna be all right, and here is how we can be better" and he bungled it. But that's just a guess.
Post by: nddons on July 15, 2016, 07:02:14 AM
You had five police officers murdered in cold blood by a lunatic who told police he was going to take as many cops out as he could before they got him.He's still a filthy pig for doing that to those poor people.
The last massacre had a similar story, only substitute gays for cops.
I'm guessing Obama was trying to tell folks "it's gonna be all right, and here is how we can be better" and he bungled it. But that's just a guess.
Post by: Mase on July 15, 2016, 07:05:29 AM
I'm guessing Obama was trying to tell folks "it's gonna be all right, and here is how we can be better" and he bungled it. But that's just a guess.
I'm guessing he was not letting a crisis go to waste, and was using it to drive his Divide America agenda and his Take The Guns agenda.
Post by: pilot_dude on July 15, 2016, 08:12:22 AM
You had five police officers murdered in cold blood by a lunatic who told police he was going to take as many white cops out as he could before they got him.Added qualifier per perps own words
The last massacre had a similar story, only substitute gays for cops.
I'm guessing Obama was trying to tell folks "it's gonna be all right, and here is how we can be better" and he bungled it. But that's just a guess.
Post by: bflynn on July 15, 2016, 11:47:40 AM
Ummm....George and Laura live in Dallas. Their house is on Daria Pl just west of the DNT, about half way between Walnut Hill and Royal. I think they're already where they came from.
Post by: bflynn on July 15, 2016, 11:51:20 AM
Post by: MarkZ on July 15, 2016, 12:42:36 PM
I'm guessing he was not letting a crisis go to waste, and was using it to drive his Divide America agenda and his Take The Guns agenda.
Really, what rights do you not have today related to gun ownership, that you once had circa 2008?
Post by: MarkZ on July 15, 2016, 12:43:46 PM
He's still a filthy pig for doing that to those poor people.Find me a politician that didn't take an event and find a way to further their agenda.
Your opinion about Obama is noted. I respectfully disagree.
Post by: Steingar on July 15, 2016, 12:57:48 PM
But thinking about the event, what do you guys think he should have done? Just not shown up? The POTUS is supposed to not show up to one of the worst tragedies in US history. Right.
So he shows up. Whats he supposed to do, just keep his yap shut? He's the POTUS for Odin's sake!
So he speaks. What's he supposed to say? Lionize the officers, check. Talk about the problems we've been experiencing between officers and civilians. Check. Talk about how we have to keep things in balance. Presidential.
Like I said, he'd have to disappear through a hole to the 8th dimension and take Joe with him before you guys would be happy.
Post by: Mase on July 15, 2016, 01:05:49 PM
In all seriousness, if he had stopped his speech after the first 15 minutes, there would be few if any complaints.
Post by: Little Joe on July 15, 2016, 01:19:50 PM
He and Bill are much more likable than Hillary, even if they are Dmocrats.
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on July 15, 2016, 04:08:58 PM
I really don't understand all these complaints about the Obominator, other than the fact that the only thing that could possibly come out of his mouth that would make you guys happy are "I resign". The only thing he could do is die.
But thinking about the event, what do you guys think he should have done? Just not shown up? The POTUS is supposed to not show up to one of the worst tragedies in US history. Right.
So he shows up. Whats he supposed to do, just keep his yap shut? He's the POTUS for Odin's sake!
So he speaks. What's he supposed to say? Lionize the officers, check. Talk about the problems we've been experiencing between officers and civilians. Check. Talk about how we have to keep things in balance. Presidential.
Like I said, he'd have to disappear through a hole to the 8th dimension and take Joe with him before you guys would be happy.
first: obama shouldn't lie
second: obama should keep politics out of a memorial service.
why is that so hard for you to understand?
Post by: nddons on July 16, 2016, 07:01:17 AM
Find me a politician that didn't take an event and find a way to further their agenda.You are so blind.
Your opinion about Obama is noted. I respectfully disagree.
Post by: nddons on July 16, 2016, 07:06:17 AM
I really don't understand all these complaints about the Obominator, other than the fact that the only thing that could possibly come out of his mouth that would make you guys happy are "I resign". The only thing he could do is die.He could have remembered that he was at a FUCKING MEMORIAL SERVICE and not on the stump for his agenda. If he shut the fuck up after the first part of his speech, it would have been fine.
But thinking about the event, what do you guys think he should have done? Just not shown up? The POTUS is supposed to not show up to one of the worst tragedies in US history. Right.
So he shows up. Whats he supposed to do, just keep his yap shut? He's the POTUS for Odin's sake!
So he speaks. What's he supposed to say? Lionize the officers, check. Talk about the problems we've been experiencing between officers and civilians. Check. Talk about how we have to keep things in balance. Presidential.
Like I said, he'd have to disappear through a hole to the 8th dimension and take Joe with him before you guys would be happy.
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on July 16, 2016, 09:55:48 AM
Find me a politician that didn't take an event and find a way to further their agenda.
Apparently you are too young to remember President Reagan and the Challenger disaster.
Post by: bflynn on July 16, 2016, 02:07:11 PM
Apparently you are too young to remember President Reagan and the Challenger disaster.
I am but I don't.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on July 16, 2016, 05:12:13 PM
Post by: Mase on July 16, 2016, 05:31:04 PM
Remember how the Paul Wellstone memorial turned into a political rally. The Democrats like to turn everything into a rally.
Yes, I remember, and I remember how Republicans who came to show respect for the deceased were booed.
Post by: MarkZ on July 17, 2016, 08:17:41 AM
Apparently you are too young to remember President Reagan and the Challenger disaster.
Apples and oranges...or NHL vs. Barclay's Premiere League...
Pick a better analogy.
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on July 17, 2016, 09:48:34 AM
Apples and oranges...or NHL vs. Barclay's Premiere League...
Pick a better analogy.
you asked "Find me a politician that didn't take an event and find a way to further their agenda. "
I provided an example.
if you don't like it, too bad.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on July 17, 2016, 10:27:21 AM
Post by: nddons on July 17, 2016, 08:30:53 PM
Looks like he'll get another chance now in Baton Rouge.Maybe he'll bring his BLM house guests along on AF1.
Post by: Lucifer on July 18, 2016, 05:56:19 AM
Maybe he'll bring hisBLMBVM* house guests along on AF1.
FTFY
*BVM= Black Votes Matter
(that's really what it's all about)