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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: President-Elect Bob Noel on October 12, 2020, 07:52:17 AM

Title: Is anyone really tracking the number of recovered cases?
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on October 12, 2020, 07:52:17 AM
It's easy to report the number of people who test positive (even though some people confuse number of people with number of positive tests)

It's easy to report the number of covid-19-related deaths (even though a lot of people don't distinquish between covid-19 causing the death and merely having covid-19 at time of death)

But there doesn't seem to be a particularly robust, well-defined, proceess for collecting/reporting information related to the number of people who have recovered.

World-o-meter referenced this source (https://www.oregon.gov/oha/ERD/Pages/OHA-changes-recovered-cases-reporting.aspx).  This highlights the problem with no meaningful information wrt the number of people that are recovered.

Another problem with the data relates to the age of people with active infections.  Good luck getting a good handle of that...

COVID-19 is more serious for someone who is 80 versus someone who is 18 (kind of like with just about any infection)

Title: Re: Is anyone really tracking the number of recovered cases?
Post by: Anthony on October 12, 2020, 08:01:26 AM
It's been so politicized they don't want real numbers as it wouldn't justify the Fascist lock downs and forced economic hardship.
Title: Re: Is anyone really tracking the number of recovered cases?
Post by: Jim Logajan on October 12, 2020, 08:49:14 AM
All I know is SD tracks recovered cases here, and their demographics tab provides a breakdown by age:

https://doh.sd.gov/news/coronavirus.aspx#SD (https://doh.sd.gov/news/coronavirus.aspx#SD)

As of today there were 28564 cases of which 22413 recovered.

Have no idea about other states.
Title: Re: Is anyone really tracking the number of recovered cases?
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on October 12, 2020, 10:16:51 AM
All I know is SD tracks recovered cases here, and their demographics tab provides a breakdown by age:

https://doh.sd.gov/news/coronavirus.aspx#SD (https://doh.sd.gov/news/coronavirus.aspx#SD)

As of today there were 28564 cases of which 22413 recovered.

Have no idea about other states.

Actually, I was thinking about SD when posting my whine (thanks for the link).

I see how SD counts recovered (uses the CDC guidelines for removing from isolation).  Oregon doesn't count it that way.  Massachusetts doesn't report active or recovered on its dashboard at all.

Title: Re: Is anyone really tracking the number of recovered cases?
Post by: Ron22 on October 12, 2020, 10:19:10 AM
Minnesota kind of keeps track

Total positive cases: 113,439
Patients no longer needing isolation: 101,376

Here is where the kind of comes in
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Patients no longer needing isolation represents individuals with confirmed COVID-19 who no longer need to self-isolate.
MDH does not track cases over time to determine whether they have fully recovered.
Patients no longer needing isolation does not include those who have died.
Title: Re: Is anyone really tracking the number of recovered cases?
Post by: Username on October 12, 2020, 10:55:10 AM
Wisconsin provides numbers on tested (positive / negative) and of the positives recovered and active.  https://www.dhs.wisconsin.gov/covid-19/data.htm

So as of yesterday 1.7 million tests, 150k positive, 1.5 million negative.  Of the positives 120k recovered, 29k active, and 1,465 dead.  Reporting Percent who died: 1.0%.  8k hospitalized which is 5.6%.  They say that they track cases, not tests.  So multiple tests per person are not included in the statistics.

So it's dead with the virus, not necessarily dead because of the virus.