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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Lucifer on March 28, 2018, 09:42:44 AM

Title: Constitution Compels Sessions Dismiss Mueller From Non-Campaign Cases
Post by: Lucifer on March 28, 2018, 09:42:44 AM
A good read with several good points.

If AG Sessions was such a good lawyer, then why is he not doing this?

https://lawandcrime.com/opinion/constitution-jeff-sessions-dismiss-robert-mueller-non-campaign-cases/

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Paul Manafort‘s legal team brought a motion to dismiss on Tuesday, noting that Rosenstein could not appoint Mueller to any investigation outside the scope of the 2016 campaign since Sessions did not recuse himself for anything outside the campaign. I agree with this take on Mueller’s authority. If we follow that argument that would mean Sessions himself has exclusive authority to appoint a special counsel for non-collusion charges, and Sessions has taken no such action. Sessions himself should make that clear to Mueller, rather than await court resolution. Doing so would remove three of the four areas of inquiry from Mueller’s requested interview with President Trump.
Title: Re: Constitution Compels Sessions Dismiss Mueller From Non-Campaign Cases
Post by: acrogimp on March 28, 2018, 10:15:21 AM
Sessions and the establishment R's have already lost the fight with respect to what is or is not sensible, logical, legal or Constitutional. 

This was by design in the setup for this whole thing - ANY attempt to reign in an out of control extra-Constituional Special Counsel is tantamount to admission of guilt because we don't control the media, the opposition does.

The whole thing is a clusterfuck of epic proportions on the part of the establishment R's and an impressive bit of political chess on the part of the deep state.

'Gimp
Title: Re: Constitution Compels Sessions Dismiss Mueller From Non-Campaign Cases
Post by: Steingar on March 28, 2018, 10:20:25 AM
Is that why Ken Starr wound up investigating Monica Lewinsky, who had nothing whatsoever to do with Whitewater.
Title: Re: Constitution Compels Sessions Dismiss Mueller From Non-Campaign Cases
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on March 28, 2018, 10:25:10 AM
Is that why Ken Starr wound up investigating Monica Lewinsky, who had nothing whatsoever to do with Whitewater.
what does that have to do with anything?
Title: Re: Constitution Compels Sessions Dismiss Mueller From Non-Campaign Cases
Post by: Lucifer on March 28, 2018, 04:08:09 PM
Is that why Ken Starr wound up investigating Monica Lewinsky, who had nothing whatsoever to do with Whitewater.

Please take the time to actually open a history book and read it.  And please, not one by some alt left progressive writer or perfesser. 
Title: Re: Constitution Compels Sessions Dismiss Mueller From Non-Campaign Cases
Post by: Lucifer on March 28, 2018, 04:08:52 PM
what does that have to do with anything?

He’s babbling alt left talking points without understanding the context.
Title: Re: Constitution Compels Sessions Dismiss Mueller From Non-Campaign Cases
Post by: invflatspin on March 28, 2018, 05:54:47 PM
It goes back before Ken Starr, to Leon Jaworski. During the Watergate. When Nixon Fired Archie Cox during the Sat night massacre, the AG tried to hire a new one. Leon Jaworski was persuaded to take the job, after declining several times. He would only take the job if he had near unlimited power, and scope. There was to be no stone left unturned, no corner he couldn't pry into, and no person he couldn't anally ream. This became the prototype for extra-judicial investigations, and the die was cast for Ken Starr, and now again in Mueller.

By theory, this concept is a good thing. We don't want to hinder a SP assigned by the highest law group in the nation. In reality of course, absolute power corrupts absolutely, and nothing in the US is immune from political bias. These two issues combined is always too much for any man to resist. So now, the Rs have their teat caught in the vice. Let it play out. Let it run its course. There's going to be some fallout, for sure, because any SP has to justify their existence.

The prosecutions of Manafort and the others will stand, unless they can find a way to turn the political tables(unlikely, as they are not part of the great Korbal(deep state, et al) and make the SP and staff look like the hacks that they really are. The Stoltz debacle and further posturing with the idiocy on the stupid dossier are beginning to show the rot at the top. However, as noted - the Rs don't control, or even have a partial friend in the media. So any attempt to stop the SP, or reduce his scope, or other limitations will be signal to the media for screaming at the admin, and baseless accusations of coverup. That's what got Watergate, not the break in, but the cover up from Nixon right down to the burglars.