PILOT SPIN

Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: bflynn on January 11, 2022, 06:42:47 PM

Title: Crazy grandpa joe
Post by: bflynn on January 11, 2022, 06:42:47 PM
I'm still trying to figure out what Biden was doing in Georgia.  In order to pass his new voting laws, he demanded that Schumer change the filibuster rule.  There's a bigger WTF in here than the fallout from changing the rule.  Democrats should recognize the danger in putting this in place before Republicans are about to take control again next year.

The challenge for Biden and the Dems:  the rules for changing the rules in the Senate are governed by a Senate rule.  Rule XXII, section 2 states that a 2/3 majority is required to change rules.  So Democrats cannot just get together, get a 50-50 tie, let what's her name cast a tiebreaker and change the rules.  They have to have 2/3 voting yes.  There's pretty much a 0% chance of that happening.

Biden has been a Senator for like 244 years.  Surely he knows what is needed to change rules...right?  So why would he issue a rallying cry to do something that Republican can block just by having 41 members say "no"?  He stood up and asked everyone to charge, but he's about to make a great big thud when he hits the ground.

Maybe he forgot?  Is he senile or something, just reading what they put in front of him?  No, don't answer that...

C'mon Man!
Title: Re: Crazy grandpa joe
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on January 11, 2022, 07:42:31 PM
They've been talking about some kind of carve out just for this one thing.
The way things are today, don't put it past Schumer to pull some really weird shit.  Remember, this is about grabbing control of the entire voting process, although I'm not sure how you can do that with Presidential elections without a Constitutional problem.
Title: Re: Crazy grandpa joe
Post by: Jim Logajan on January 11, 2022, 07:58:58 PM
Since Harry Reid managed to change the filibuster rule for judicial nominations (other than SCOTUS ones) with a simple majority, followed later by a change for SCOTUS ones by the opposing party, I think your reference to rule XXII misses the rules that allowed him to accomplish that goal.

Something about points of order, or something:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_option (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_option)

Looks to me that as long as they can muster a majority they can change the rule.
Title: Re: Crazy grandpa joe
Post by: bflynn on January 12, 2022, 03:59:13 AM
Anything they do can immediately be challenged under a non compliance with Article 1, Section 5.  The Senate gets to set their own rules, but once set, they must stick to them. I don’t see any path for them to move anywhere on this.
Title: Re: Crazy grandpa joe
Post by: Lucifer on January 12, 2022, 05:40:17 AM
But he got 81 million votes.
Title: Re: Crazy grandpa joe
Post by: Anthony on January 12, 2022, 08:58:19 AM
Biden is a meaningless puppet. I hate the people running the show.
Title: Re: Crazy grandpa joe
Post by: Mr Pou on January 12, 2022, 09:01:28 AM
Inflation for 2021 released, 7%. Let's go Brandon.

Oh, and still lots of shortages.
Title: Re: Crazy grandpa joe
Post by: Username on January 12, 2022, 09:28:42 AM
Inflation for 2021 released, 7%. Let's go Brandon.

Oh, and still lots of shortages.
Inflation goes up, Fed raises interest rates.  Housing prices crash.  Too bad for all those who bought a house at the peak.  But maybe I can pick up a nice Cirrus for cheap in a year or so.  As the Chinese pick up properties for pennies on the dollar
Title: Re: Crazy grandpa joe
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on January 12, 2022, 09:32:07 AM
Inflation for 2021 released, 7%. Let's go Brandon.

Oh, and still lots of shortages.

Noticing shortages. This all feels like a slow, agonizing, intentionally created death march.
Title: Re: Crazy grandpa joe
Post by: Bamaflyer on January 12, 2022, 10:01:17 AM
Still occasionally calls her President Harris! Should probably be President Susan Rice & Ex Obama.
Title: Re: Crazy grandpa joe
Post by: nddons on January 12, 2022, 12:38:55 PM
Anything they do can immediately be challenged under a non compliance with Article 1, Section 5.  The Senate gets to set their own rules, but once set, they must stick to them. I don’t see any path for them to move anywhere on this.
I think Jim is right however.  I think that’s what Biden will attempt when he thinks he has 50 votes.
Title: Re: Crazy grandpa joe
Post by: Rush on January 12, 2022, 01:13:14 PM
I listened to Glen Beck this morning talking about the great reset and just upsetting the hell out of myself on top of an already hellacious day where everything is going sideways.
Title: Re: Crazy grandpa joe
Post by: nddons on January 12, 2022, 01:24:08 PM
I listened to Glen Beck this morning talking about the great reset and just upsetting the hell out of myself on top of an already hellacious day where everything is going sideways.
That’s why I can’t listen to Beck. I think he’s over dramatic and thinks he’s Nostradamus.  He also leaves me depressed and concerned. Contrast that to the other Rush, who always left you optimistic and enthused.
Title: Re: Crazy grandpa joe
Post by: texasag93 on January 12, 2022, 04:09:47 PM
That’s why I can’t listen to Beck. I think he’s over dramatic and thinks he’s Nostradamus.  He also leaves me depressed and concerned. Contrast that to the other Rush, who always left you optimistic and enthused.

Rush was great at that. 

I miss listening to him.  3 hours a day 4 years and then I found his Rush 24/7 without commercials.   

Nirvana was when I found 1.5 speed and could do the 3 hours in a little over 1 without commercials.

F*** cancer.
Title: Re: Crazy grandpa joe
Post by: Rush on January 12, 2022, 06:50:25 PM
Yep. I really miss Rush. Always made me feel optimistic yet talked about the same reality.
Title: Re: Crazy grandpa joe
Post by: nddons on January 12, 2022, 07:11:44 PM
Yep. I really miss Rush. Always made me feel optimistic yet talked about the same reality.
I felt like Rush was in OUR corner, fighting for US. Not just being king of the obvious, restating everything we knew.
Title: Re: Crazy grandpa joe
Post by: Rush on January 13, 2022, 02:41:39 AM
I felt like Rush was in OUR corner, fighting for US. Not just being king of the obvious, restating everything we knew.

And never a hint of self serving. Beck was talking about the great reset, but he's promoting his book. The facts he presents are all true, taken individually, but taken all together, he paints such a nightmare total dystopian bleak and black future, after listening to it yesterday I just wanted to kill myself. But... he's promoting his BOOK.

Yes the threat of the great reset is real but to whip me into a state of panic and anxiety when there's nothing I can do about it other than vote correctly serves no purpose but to ruin my psyche.  If Rush had done a whole show on the great reset, I am sure I would not feel this way (utter despair). I have never felt totally doomed after listening to Rush.