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Spin Zone / Re: Trump indicted.
« on: April 12, 2023, 04:58:21 PM »
Quote from: Jim Logajan on April 12, 2023, 04:50:05 PM
I can't recall if I previously posted this video, but The History Guy did a nice video on a truly messed up presidential election involving massive voter fraud that makes the 2020 election appear downright tame in comparison:



I bet neither wanted to purposefully destroy the economy, have open borders, put our national security at risk, limit travel, etc., like the current fraudulent occupant of the White House.

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Spin Zone / Re: Trump indicted.
« on: April 12, 2023, 12:49:55 PM »
Quote from: Little Joe on April 12, 2023, 11:30:06 AM
I must be really dense because I have heard that hundreds and hundreds of times, and I still don't believe it.  Sure, there will be some cheating, but the spotlight will be so bright it won't be sufficient. And if it is sufficient to sway the 2024 election, it won't be in 2026 and the pendulum will swing again, as it always does.

It always did but we never had universal mail in voting before. That’s what kicked the cheating way into overdrive and allowed unlimited creation of “votes”.  That genie has not been put back in the bottle and looks like it can’t be.  I see no dedicated effort whatsoever in mainstream GOP to address this.  And like Bob just said, shining the spotlight on it has done nothing except make them thumb their noses at us as they openly ramp up the cheating even more right in plain sight!

There have been no consequences in the district where the 2020 vote total was greater than the entire population- including children.  No consequences in 2022 AZ where the voters in red counties were turned away because of “printer malfunction”.  No serious investigation into Dominion.  No cases prosecuted on the hundreds of witness affidavits of observed ballot tampering, videos of running one ballot through multiple times, videos of ballot harvesters instructing nursing home residents what to mark, etc. etc.

What good has the spotlight done?  I’m hoping that at least Republican poll workers can now be alert to fraud in 2024 but I have no confidence there’ll even be any.  The Dems in those few cities have a lock on administering the election and they will double down in 2024 now that they’ve seen they can get away with it.

I hope to God I’m wrong.

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Spin Zone / Re: Trump indicted.
« on: April 12, 2023, 11:51:18 AM »
Quote from: Little Joe on April 12, 2023, 11:30:06 AM
I must be really dense because I have heard that hundreds and hundreds of times, and I still don't believe it.  Sure, there will be some cheating, but the spotlight will be so bright it won't be sufficient. And if it is sufficient to sway the 2024 election, it won't be in 2026 and the pendulum will swing again, as it always does.

The places with the cheating aren't doing anything to prevent cheating.. no matter how bright the spotlight is.

I don't know how you can say "it won't be sufficient"

it was sufficient.  What will be different?




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Spin Zone / Re: McCarthy Releases 41,000 Hours Of Jan. 6 Footage To Tucker Carlson
« on: April 11, 2023, 11:27:58 AM »
Quote from: elwood blues on April 10, 2023, 10:52:29 PM

I think he’s right. Sadly.

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Spin Zone / Re: Here it comes. We will effectively FORCE you to buy EVs
« on: April 10, 2023, 08:56:54 AM »
Quote from: nddons on April 10, 2023, 08:51:16 AM
The US is not built for an EV wave. Except for the east coast, most Americans drive, and drive meaningful distances.  What may work in Rhode Island won’t work in Texas.

I’m building a retirement home in the Northwoods. EV batteries done do shit when it’s sub-zero, and I have to drive 50 miles just to get to a decent sized town.

Remember the wave of tiny Jap cars they came into popularity in the 1970s due to the pending fear of diminishing oil reserves, gas lines, etc? 

Then miraculously more dinosaurs died, giving us more oil than we can ever burn. It’s almost like we have a refinery in the middle of the planet or something.

So cars got larger (again), trucks and SUVs became popular everyday vehicles, and we have lead the world in productivity.

Same shit, different decade.

The Japanese small car invasion of the 70s was MARKET DRIVEN.  It's what people wanted due to the economic circumstances.  This EV bullshit is Nazi Party driven (Government/Corporate Alliance).

It was Free Choice and people exercising their right to make economic decisions.  The Government/Corporate Alliance didn't ban nor limit big gas guzzlers or force small Japanese cars on them.  Different shit, different decade.  Vastly different.

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Spin Zone / Re: While we are being distracted...........
« on: April 07, 2023, 07:47:37 AM »
Quote from: Username on April 07, 2023, 07:27:16 AM
They all seem to ignore that all communist (also socialist) countries devolved into murderous dictatorships where the population is in horrible poverty (for example, North Korea).  But they also all insist that this time we'll do communism right and everything will be rainbows and unicorns.  We're seeing the devolution of the USA right now.

It’s because they do not understand basic economics.  Like AT ALL.  They have absolutely no clue where stuff comes from and how it gets to people who consume it.  They think all food and healthcare just magically appears and can be equally distributed among everyone.

They have no idea what money is and how it works.  They think you can just print up money and give it to everyone and then everyone can buy whatever they want and need.  They have no concept of things like money supply and how it’s related to price.  High prices are the result of greedy capitalists and nothing else, they think.  They do not understand supply and demand.  They think if you outlaw price gouging then you can buy the thing at a low price.  No idea that what that does is create shortages.

Communism when attempted always results in catastrophic shortages for everyone except the elite leaders. But they’ve not been taught history or if they have they were told lies about why it failed. 

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Spin Zone / Re: Trump indicted.
« on: April 05, 2023, 07:23:18 AM »
Quote from: nddons on April 05, 2023, 07:03:39 AM
If you think I’m not aware of these things, you haven’t been paying attention. But I’m not going sit around and pout, naval gaze, and throw in the cards like a lot of people here.

Will DeSantis be accepted in the DC bubble?  I have no idea.  Will Trump ever get one ounce of cooperation in the DC bubble?  You’re naive if you think he can get anything accomplished.

I’m not throwing in the cards. I said Styx said he isn’t voting for a R if it’s not Trump, I didn’t say I wouldn’t.  Only that I understand Styx’s reasoning.

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Spin Zone / Re: Trump indicted.
« on: April 04, 2023, 08:56:58 PM »
Quote from: nddons on April 04, 2023, 05:37:40 PM
So how do you think a 2nd term Donald Trump will get cooperation from the Republicans when he couldn’t get cooperation in 2017-2021?  Do you think that situation will improve, or decline?

But you are absolutely convinced that if DeSantis becomes president all the republicans will suddenly line up and bow down to him, he'll get everything done he wanted to do, and we'll have rainbows and unicorns and everyone will be happy.  Is that right?

Don't get me wrong, I like DeSantis, but the idea that Washington is going to fix itself, if we just get the right people in!, is fantasy.

No, we are not giving up, as you say, but we recognize and understand that the way we used to do things don't apply anymore -- a concept that you don't seem or want to grasp.  The republic is gone, with Alvin Bragg driving the last nail in the coffin, and it's not coming back until the left is destroyed.

In answer to your question, yes I think it will improve -- after they are beaten down.  The only mistake Trump made was in thinking that after the 2016 election, the country would come together as it always had, but those days are gone.

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Spin Zone / Re: Trump indicted.
« on: April 04, 2023, 05:50:32 PM »
Quote from: nddons on April 04, 2023, 05:37:40 PM
So how do you think a 2nd term Donald Trump will get cooperation from the Republicans when he couldn’t get cooperation in 2017-2021?  Do you think that situation will improve, or decline?

Am I to understand that you believe the RINOs have not, did not, and will not cooperate with President Trump JUST BECAUSE HE IS WHO HE IS?

And that they WOULD cooperate with some other Republican President if magically fraud didn’t happen to prevent another R President ever?

Face it, the UniParty will NEVER allow patriot politicians to stop the Uniparty gravy train OR drain the swamp, OR do the people’s work OR strengthen our country’s borders or military OR fight the woke plague.

Rush’s point is that President Trump tried, and look how he was abused and subjected to vitriolic attacks and look where he is TODAY, April 4, 2023.

They’ll eviscerate and attack anyone who tries again.

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Spin Zone / Re: Trump indicted.
« on: April 04, 2023, 05:49:35 PM »
Someone tell me what the plan is for clearing out all the entrenched bureaucrats at all levels of Government organizations.  With all of these bills written where everything is up to the discretion of the Secretary, I don't see what a President can do anymore.

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Spin Zone / Re: Trump indicted.
« on: April 04, 2023, 04:18:55 PM »
Quote from: Rush on April 04, 2023, 03:14:13 PM
Merely doing some good things is not going to save us now. We need a destroyer. Someone to go in and clean house. I’m not sure it can be done.  I’m not even sure Trump can do it at this point.

Neither am I. They will JFK him if he is having success. I like DeSantis.  He just signed Constitutional Carry. The focus needs to be on the States with the good ones seceding. The Feds are a Fascist lost cause. Not saying I prefer DeSantis over Trump but the States need to start aligning and seceding en masse. Cut off the Feds at the knees.

The Feds are the new British Royalty screaming we must preserve Democracy. They just want to preserve power, control, consolidate wealth and further subjugate us.

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Spin Zone / Re: Trump indicted.
« on: April 04, 2023, 02:15:20 PM »
Quote from: Little Joe on April 04, 2023, 02:04:07 PM
That is the weakest argument I have ever heard.
DeSantis has a record which I am proud of.

And right you should be, as Governor of FL he’s great.  What’s that got to do with draining the DC swamp?

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Spin Zone / Re: Trump v DeSantis 2024
« on: April 01, 2023, 03:57:42 PM »
Well, there's another big reason:  Look at the hits, the arrows in his back.  He takes those hits for the average, ordinary, forgotten American that feels like he's being screwed.  He doesn't have to do that, and no swamp politician would. That demands and deserves our respect.  People are loyal to him because he is loyal to us and shame on anyone who betrayed and abandoned him.

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Spin Zone / Re: Nashville school shooting
« on: April 01, 2023, 09:02:49 AM »

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Spin Zone / Re: Trump v DeSantis 2024
« on: April 01, 2023, 02:57:17 AM »
Quote from: Lucifer on March 31, 2023, 07:37:58 PM
Presidential campaigns are expensive.  The money has to come from somewhere.

Various PAC's are formed to "help" the candidate, and depending on who's putting the money in, it usually comes with strings attached.  People or organizations that make huge contributions aren't doing it for nothing.

Keep an eye on who's making the contributions.  Also, keep an eye on how much support the RNC is giving the candidate.

One of the two biggest reasons I favor Trump.  He is beholden to no one.  The other reason is his proven performance 2017-2019.  He was the ONLY president in my lifetime who made it his JOB to keep his campaign promises.

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