PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Lucifer on July 08, 2017, 02:38:31 PM
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So, once again Trump goes overseas, makes many successful moves, gives a great speech, has a good meeting with Putin, etc, etc.
All positive.
So the NYT just can't take it. Now we see, yet again, another hit piece filled with innuendo, claims of secret documents and of course anonymous sources. No facts, no names, nothing verifiable.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/08/us/politics/trump-russia-kushner-manafort.html
NYT along with CNN and the WashPo have become irrelevant and aren't even worthy to be considered journalism much less news. They are nothing more than propagandist for the radical progressives.
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https://www.circa.com/story/2017/07/08/donald-trump-jr-met-with-russian-lawyer-during-election-but-didnt-follow-up
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When your currency is lies and that is all you have, all you have to offer is lies.
That pretty clearly sums up the entire progressive movement.
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We are witnessing the death throws of the mainstream media.
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The mango Mussilini has been clamoring this whole time that the Russian thing was naught but smoke and mirrors. Now it turns out that his son was actively trying to get dirt on Hillary Clinton from Russian government sources. Lots more smoke, and maybe a little fire too.
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The mango Mussilini has been clamoring this whole time that the Russian thing was naught but smoke and mirrors. Now it turns out that his son was actively trying to get dirt on Hillary Clinton from Russian government sources. Lots more smoke, and maybe a little fire too.
Are you sure the Russian was a Russian government source?
Do you have a problem with a politician trying to get dirt on an opponent?
I admit, the optics are bad, especially when viewed through the MSM spin machine.
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The mango Mussilini has been clamoring this whole time that the Russian thing was naught but smoke and mirrors. Now it turns out that his son was actively trying to get dirt on Hillary Clinton from Russian government sources. Lots more smoke, and maybe a little fire too.
What "Russian government sources"? Can you cite something other than CNN or NYT for a valid source?
And to be sure, I assume you are implying the Hillary campaign did absolutely nothing to dig dirt on Trump?
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I admit, the optics are bad, especially when viewed through the MSM spin machine.
It's another "nothing burger".
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He sought intel from the Russian equivalent of our Attorney General, who was appointed by Putin himself.
Nothing wrong with digging up dirt on your opponent, unless that dirt comes from a foreign government inimical to our interests. I think that there's treason, though I wouldn't go too far out on a limb over it.
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He sought intel from the Russian equivalent of our Attorney General, who was appointed by Putin himself.
What? Please cite the reference for that!
Nothing wrong with digging up dirt on your opponent, unless that dirt comes from a foreign government inimical to our interests. I think that there's treason, though I wouldn't go too far out on a limb over it.
Please cite the law you are using to link this to "treason". Please cite the law that says a private individual may not ask for information from a foreign government.
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He sought intel from the Russian equivalent of our Attorney General, who was appointed by Putin himself.
Nothing wrong with digging up dirt on your opponent, unless that dirt comes from a foreign government inimical to our interests. I think that there's treason, though I wouldn't go too far out on a limb over it.
I thought that PhD's had to take at least one course in Critical Thinking....well, maybe not.
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The mango Mussilini has been clamoring this whole time that the Russian thing was naught but smoke and mirrors. Now it turns out that his son was actively trying to get dirt on Hillary Clinton from Russian government sources. Lots more smoke, and maybe a little fire too.
Let me say this about that:
So what?
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The mango Mussilini has been clamoring this whole time that the Russian thing was naught but smoke and mirrors. Now it turns out that his son was actively trying to get dirt on Hillary Clinton from Russian government sources. Lots more smoke, and maybe a little fire too.
You have a serious issue with hatred of people based on their skin color.
It comes out of you with such blind ease and disgusting predictability.
Without this insane skin color bigotry, do you have any of actual value to offer?
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You have a serious issue with hatred of people based on their skin color.
It comes out of you with such blind ease and disgusting predictability.
Without this insane skin color bigotry, do you have any of actual value to offer?
Orange is the new black.
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He sought intel from the Russian equivalent of our Attorney General, who was appointed by Putin himself.
Nothing wrong with digging up dirt on your opponent, unless that dirt comes from a foreign government inimical to our interests. I think that there's treason, though I wouldn't go too far out on a limb over it.
Words matter, doctor. In your case they demonstrate your partisan ignorance.
The Constitution defines treason:
"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort."
Article III, Section 3
You and Tim Kane are on the same plane of delusion. Do you take the same care when you are instructing your students about science?
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The attorney that met with Trump, jr. told NBC she had NO relationship with the Russian government, nor Putin, past or present, so how could she be their "AG"?
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He sought intel from the Russian equivalent of our Attorney General, who was appointed by Putin himself.
Nothing wrong with digging up dirt on your opponent, unless that dirt comes from a foreign government inimical to our interests. I think that there's treason, though I wouldn't go too far out on a limb over it.
And another big fat "no".
Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya reportedly lured Donald Trump Jr. and other members of his father’s presidential campaign team to a meeting at Trump Tower last June with the promise of providing compromising information on Hillary Clinton.
Veselnitskaya has denied any affiliation with the Russian government. A spokesman for Russian President Vladimir Putin told reporters Monday that the lawyer’s name wasn’t even known in the Kremlin. So who is this latest player now at the center of the ever-changing accounts of ties between the Trump campaign and Russia?
According to an affidavit she submitted to U.S. District court in Manhattan last year on an unrelated matter, Veselnitskaya has been practicing law in Russia since she graduated from the Moscow State Legal Academy with a degree in jurisprudence in 1998.
For three years following graduation, Veselnitskaya said, she worked in the Moscow Prosecutor’s Office, “overseeing the legality of statutes that were adopted by legislators of Moscow Oblast,” before forming her own private law offices in 2003.
Veselnitskaya was allegedly involved in orchestrating U.S. screenings of an anti-Magnitsky film in June 2016, the same month she reportedly sought a meeting with then-presidential candidate Donald Trump’s oldest son.
Though Putin has been a vocal opponent of the Magnitsky Act since it was first considered in Congress, the Kremlin has denied any connection to Veselnitskaya, insisting that it was not even aware of her name.
Lets review:
1. The Kremlin(where Putin works) has no knowledge of her.
2. Natalia has directly and repeatedly stated she doesn't work for the Russian govt.
3. Trump Jr stated she did not represent the Russian govt.
4. She was seeking influence from Trump Jr about the Magnitsky act, and possible overturning it because it interfered in a multi-million dollar judgment against one of her principal clients(who lost, and paid up).
5. She used a third party with connections to Trump Jr to bait him into a meeting by mentioning some kind of vague negative info about Clinton.
6. Trump Jr, in doing his oppo gathering about a rival political party, and in the interest of seeing that NO foreign influence was at work in the DNC accepted the meeting.
7. She delivered the proverbial 'nothing burger'.
8. They talked about Magnitsky act, and that adoptions from Russia might be a bargaining chip if there was movement.
9. Trump Jr told her to go pound govt sand.
10. End of another ludicrous effort to link the prez with some kind of Russian influence.
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The attorney that met with Trump, jr. told NBC she had to relationship to the Russian government, nor Putin, past or present, so how could she be their "AG"?
SILENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You're just a white nationalist, or whatever the insult de jour is.
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SILENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You're just a white nationalist, or whatever the insult de jour is.
White privileged, capitalist pig. :)
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Words matter, doctor. In your case they demonstrate your partisan ignorance.
The Constitution defines treason:
"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort."
Article III, Section 3
You and Tim Kane are on the same plane of delusion. Do you take the same care when you are instructing your students about science?
He sure does. He tells them that man caused global warming, er, uh, climate change.
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He sure does. He tells them that man caused global warming, er, uh, climate change.
To be fair, I have no doub that he blames republican AMERICAN consumers for his FAKE mmgw scare, then. Reminds them of his triple digit IQ.
I wonder how many correctly score his IQ at 000?
That's trip[le digits, right?
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Y'know, I have the walk back the AG thing. That's what it sounded from the outset, but it wasn't that bad. One the other hand, if all these supposedly erudite folks were meeting with her to get dirt on Clinton, why would they bother if they didn't see her as "connected"? I doubt they would have comet see me en masse had I emailed that I had dirt on Clinton.
Still, a far, far cry from Trump's claim that there was no collusion with Russia whatsoever, which he has maintained repeatedly. I'm certain that matters not a whit here. No matter what happened, Trump is innocent and vindicated, and anyone who says anything bad about him has either made it up or is on a liberally-inspired witch hunt. You guys apparently don't mind begin lied to so long as the liar in chief does it.
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Y'know, I have the walk back the AG thing. That's what it sounded from the outset, but it wasn't that bad. One the other hand, if all these supposedly erudite folks were meeting with her to get dirt on Clinton, why would they bother if they didn't see her as "connected"? I doubt they would have comet see me en masse had I emailed that I had dirt on Clinton.
Still, a far, far cry from Trump's claim that there was no collusion with Russia whatsoever, which he has maintained repeatedly. I'm certain that matters not a whit here. No matter what happened, Trump is innocent and vindicated, and anyone who says anything bad about him has either made it up or is on a liberally-inspired witch hunt. You guys apparently don't mind begin lied to so long as the liar in chief does it.
If the Democrats come up with any actual evidence of an actual crime, then I will criticize Trump with the best of them.
But when I wake up each morning and wonder what new accusation will be hurled at Trump, then I open the newspaper or web site news and see multiple new accusations, none of which have any real evidence of any real crime, then I admit I do get a little defensive and supportive of Trump's rebuttal tweets.
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Y'know, I have the walk back the AG thing. That's what it sounded from the outset, but it wasn't that bad. One the other hand, if all these supposedly erudite folks were meeting with her to get dirt on Clinton, why would they bother if they didn't see her as "connected"? I doubt they would have comet see me en masse had I emailed that I had dirt on Clinton.
I have to admit, it is fun watching you make a complete fool of yourself over and over.
First of all, campaigns dig dirt on their opponents, that's a fact. I can guarantee you Hillary invested millions in trying to find anything to use against Trump. I can guarantee you that the DNC had staffers dedicated to dig dirt. And what did they come up with? Basically nothing. Hence the constant propaganda from the MSM trying to produce a scandal from thin air.
And I can also say the RNC also spent considerable time and money digging dirt on Hillary. But most likely they didn't devote as much time and money since Hillary is such a well known criminal and of course has had a scandal plagued life.
Still, a far, far cry from Trump's claim that there was no collusion with Russia whatsoever, which he has maintained repeatedly. I'm certain that matters not a whit here. No matter what happened, Trump is innocent and vindicated, and anyone who says anything bad about him has either made it up or is on a liberally-inspired witch hunt.
Again, you don't even know what the word collusion means, you're just parroting what you see on CNN. How many investigations have turned up nothing? How many congressmen, Senators and heads of Intelligence agencies have repeatedly stated there is no proof?
You guys apparently don't mind begin lied to so long as the liar in chief does it.
And yet you hold these two serial liars as sacred.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/19/hillary-clintons-long-list-of-lies/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/hillary-clinton-who-tells-dreadful-lies/2016/09/19/cd38412e-7e6a-11e6-9070-5c4905bf40dc_story.html
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/07/hillary-clinton-emails-history-214095
http://thefederalist.com/2016/09/02/fbi-interview-catches-hillary-clinton-in-multiple-lies-private-server/
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/08/why-hillary-clinton-keeps-lying/493841/
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/09/08/dr-keith-ablow-hillary-clinton-inside-mind-shameless-liar.html
http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/hillarys-debate-lie-highlights/
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^^^^ Ok, I got a good chuckle out of that one. Classic.
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Now that the Russian lawyer is being connected directly to obama and the DNC, how fast will this fake scandal disappear?
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The democrats have turned into Wyle E. Coyote in the old Road Runner cartoons. They keep ordering a new Russian scandal from ACME and it keeps failing.
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I have never seen a more lying, corrupt party as the Democrats, and that includes the media.
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I have never seen a more lying, corrupt party as the Democrats, and that includes the media.
The democrat party has been hijacked by the progressive movement. They stand to the left of Lenin and Marx now and are being run by a small group that are intent on bringing down this country. If they weren't controlling the MSM then more than likely hardly be heard from.
Let them keep it up. Conservatives are seeing through the charades and the centrist democrats are beginning to back away from them. Come 2018 mid terms expect even more democrat seats to be lost.
Also, more people in this country are cutting off the cable and going to Internet TV services which means the cable news outlets are taking a hit. Broadcast TV is also on a decline. With the internet people now have choices on where to find news and filter out the MSM fake news.
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Y'know, I have the walk back the AG thing. That's what it sounded from the outset, but it wasn't that bad. One the other hand, if all these supposedly erudite folks were meeting with her to get dirt on Clinton, why would they bother if they didn't see her as "connected"? I doubt they would have comet see me en masse had I emailed that I had dirt on Clinton.
Still, a far, far cry from Trump's claim that there was no collusion with Russia whatsoever, which he has maintained repeatedly. I'm certain that matters not a whit here. No matter what happened, Trump is innocent and vindicated, and anyone who says anything bad about him has either made it up or is on a liberally-inspired witch hunt. You guys apparently don't mind begin lied to so long as the liar in chief does it.
For a clown that claims to be so much smarter than everyone else, you certainly spend your days in total denial of the facts and ignorant of the truth.
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Ah, here we go, now the truth is finally coming out:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-12/why-did-loretta-lynch-grant-trump-jrs-russian-lawyer-special-visa-enter-america
With everyone now rummaging through every document, intercept, and memo for something, anything tying Trump to Russia, The Hill's John Solomon and Jonathan Easley have unearthed details that show the Russian lawyer who penetrated Donald Trump’s inner circle was initially cleared into the United States by Loretta Lynch's Justice Department under "extraordinary circumstances" after she had initially been turned down.
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/341788-exclusive-doj-let-russian-lawyer-into-us-before-she-met-with-trump
The Russian lawyer who penetrated Donald Trump’s inner circle was initially cleared into the United States by the Justice Department under “extraordinary circumstances” before she embarked on a lobbying campaign last year that ensnared the president’s eldest son, members of Congress, journalists and State Department officials, according to court and Justice Department documents and interviews.
This revelation means it was the Obama Justice Department that enabled the newest and most intriguing figure in the Russia-Trump investigation to enter the country without a visa.
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You guys apparently don't mind begin lied to so long as the liar in chief does it.
Bwahahhahhhaaaaa..... Oh, the delicious IRONY!!!
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Bwahahhahhhaaaaa..... Oh, the delicious IRONY!!!
If you like your health plan you can keep your health plan.....PERIOD
If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor....PERIOD
It's OK if gasoline prices go up, just not too fast.
Man made climate change is causing terrorism.
I did NOT have sex with that woman....Ms. Lewinsky
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The death of our ambassador was caused by an awful Internet video that we had nothing to do with.
The only emails on there were personal, like for yoga class, and Chelsea's birthday party.
I deplained under enemy gunfire.
My 10,000% profit on commodities market was due to studying the WSJ.
I turned over all my work related emails(under oath)
My attorney and I went over every email, there was no classified marked material there(under oath)
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I don't think Stein gar's communist masters allow him to read about such treasonous facts.
It might poison his triple digit IQ with facts.
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