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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Lucifer on February 06, 2024, 07:41:46 PM
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https://twitter.com/DavidSacks/status/1753874392491438308
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As good a reason as any to cut them off NOW.
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The dictator needs a few more mansions...............
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https://twitter.com/DavidSacks/status/1753874392491438308
Seymour Hersh as a source making the same set of still unverified claims? It's Deja Vu!
http://www.pilotspin.com/index.php?topic=6835.msg123892#msg123892 (http://www.pilotspin.com/index.php?topic=6835.msg123892#msg123892)
Of course this couldn't possibly be an unverifiable story planted by the Kremlin!
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I'm tired of the Ukraine money laundering scheme for our corrupt politicians and all the others. Convention of States to dissolve the Constitution and re-adopt the Articles.
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Seymour Hersh as a source making the same set of still unverified claims? It's Deja Vu!
http://www.pilotspin.com/index.php?topic=6835.msg123892#msg123892 (http://www.pilotspin.com/index.php?topic=6835.msg123892#msg123892)
Of course this couldn't possibly be an unverifiable story planted by the Kremlin!
Yes, we all know St. Volodymyr is working tirelessly for his people, and doing it all on his government income. Why, he simply won't allow corruption!
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-says-defense-officials-stole-40-million-meant-for-ammunition/ar-BB1hnYTy
https://www.npr.org/2024/01/12/1224358013/why-are-nearly-40-000-u-s-weapons-sent-to-ukraine-unaccounted-for
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/04/world/europe/ukraine-military-spending-corruption.html
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/tanyakozyreva/ukraines-ousted-regime-made-40-billion-disappear-and-no
https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/3487430-theres-no-oversight-of-billions-in-ukraine-aid-we-need-an-inspector-general/
https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/20/politics/pentagon-watchdog-report-ukraine-weaponry/index.html
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Sold out again. Imagine what this country could do with $60 billion if given the chance. Remember when congress just couldn't bring themselves to give Trump $5 billion to build a border wall?
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/02/09/america-last-12-senate-republicans-vote-to-send-ukraine-another-60b-after-vowing-to-put-u-s-border-first/
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Sold out again. Imagine what this country could do with $60 billion if given the chance.
Our current leaders might give $6k each to ten million illegal aliens.
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Our political leadership and government in general is doing just about all the wrong things with the major issues we currently face. The border, the illegal immigrant invasion, Ukraine, Israel, climate change actions/fossil fuel, etc. Every move is wrong. All of it. Utterly ridiculous.
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Our political leadership and government in general is doing just about all the wrong things with the major issues we currently face. The border, the illegal immigrant invasion, Ukraine, Israel, climate change actions/fossil fuel, etc. Every move is wrong. All of it. Utterly ridiculous.
Minor point. We need to stop referring to them as "leadership". They are representatives, hired and paid by the voter to work on the voter's behalf. This should include items which would benefit the country and the citizens.
These officials have now taken the view they are leaders, they are not. Many of them couldn't manage a fast food restaurant or a yard mowing service. They ignore the people who elected them and play lapdog to the lobbyist.
The make up of congress and the senate is a total joke. With the exception of a very few, it's a clown show. These idiots don't even read their own legislation, depending on staffers to do it for them.
We complain about the presidency, but in reality it's congress that has us where we are today. If we had a functioning congress the executive would be in check.
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Our political leadership and government in general is doing just about all the wrong things with the major issues we currently face. The border, the illegal immigrant invasion, Ukraine, Israel, climate change actions/fossil fuel, etc. Every move is wrong. All of it. Utterly ridiculous.
Wrong in your mind, wrong on purpose in theirs
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Wrong in your mind, wrong on purpose in theirs
I believe that’s true but I have trouble wrapping my mind around why they want to destroy the entire world, until I remember that they’re sadistic psychopaths and actually enjoy ruining everyone’s lives.
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Exactly. Everything they do is for power and profit.
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Exactly. Everything they do is for power and profit.
Isn't that capitalism at work?
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Isn't that capitalism at work?
Capitalism for normal people is, “We engage in mutually beneficial trade through which I profit and I try to outdo my competition and grow more powerful”. But the elite class destroying the country aren’t normal people. They are pathological and not interested in fair competition or reward for productivity or merit. (Example DEI) They aren’t interested in mutually beneficial trade. They are thieves. They are Machiavellian. They grow more powerful by trampling on others. And they enjoy it.
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Isn't that capitalism at work?
Not so much capitalism as extortion.
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Capitalism for normal people is, “We engage in mutually beneficial trade through which I profit and I try to outdo my competition and grow more powerful”. But the elite class destroying the country aren’t normal people. They are pathological and not interested in fair competition or reward for productivity or merit. (Example DEI) They aren’t interested in mutually beneficial trade. They are thieves. They are Machiavellian. They grow more powerful by trampling on others. And they enjoy it.
Not so much capitalism as extortion.
I guess I should have put that in a green font.
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I guess I should have put that in a green font.
I figured that was a green font comment and I was actually violently agreeing with you.
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Isn't that capitalism at work?
There's a BIG DIFFERENCE between fair market Capitalism and the blatant CORRUPTION we have now. Duh. ::)
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There's a BIG DIFFERENCE between fair market Capitalism and the blatant CORRUPTION we have now. Duh. ::)
Add another one to the list.
But at least we can take Rush off that list. And perhaps Username as well. That leave Anthony.
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Add another one to the list.
But at least we can take Rush off that list. And perhaps Username as well. That leave Anthony.
Yeah, I completely missed the virtual green font. The morning caffeine hadn't kicked in yet.
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Yeah, I completely missed the virtual green font. The morning caffeine hadn't kicked in yet.
Understandable. I do tend to make sarcastic comments.
Some people get it some of the time.
No body gets it all of the time.
Some people never seem to get it.
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Understandable. I do tend to make sarcastic comments.
Some people get it some of the time.
No body gets it all of the time.
Some people never seem to get it.
It is understandable on account of the caffeine. I’m a mess before my coffee. Nothing makes any sense at all. The simplest concept flies over my head like a SR-71.
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It is understandable on account of the caffeine. I’m a mess before my coffee. Nothing makes any sense at all. The simplest concept flies over my head like a SR-71.
Hey, anytime I can be on a list with you and username is a good day. Esteemed company for me.
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https://twitter.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1757164624531673398
‘We are looting the Treasury for Zelensky.’
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Rand Paul is one of the VERY few who gets it.
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(https://i.imgur.com/g3j4zy9.jpg)
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(https://i.imgur.com/tf9a8Hb.jpg)
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That's pure insanity and since it reduces our ability to defend ourselves, treasonous.
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Right. Bet lots are lining up for this.
https://news.yahoo.com/foreigners-allowed-serve-ukraines-national-224347358.html
"Foreigners who are legally on the territory of Ukraine, have not been previously convicted, and meet the requirements for military service as defined by the law of Ukraine 'On Military Duty and Military Service' may be accepted on a voluntary basis (under contract) for military service in the National Guard of Ukraine," the decree says.
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https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/details-failed-russia-ukraine-peace-deal-first-months-war-revealed
Details Of 'Sabotaged' Russia-Ukraine Peace Deal In First Months Of War Revealed
The Wall Street says it has gotten its hands on a secretive document revealing the details of a failed Ukraine-Russia peace deal that was on the table within the opening months of the war. Since then there have been several reports, including from Foreign Affairs which said the UK at the time sought to sabotage the deal.
The draft peace treaty was drawn up by negotiators from both sides in April 2022, and reveals the thinking and objectives of Moscow at the time. The 17-page document has never been made public, with the WSJ for the first time on Friday divulging key sections and points.
Dated April 15, 2022, the document is said to lay out an agreement that turns Ukraine into a "permanently neutral state that doesn’t participate in military blocs". It further stipulated that Ukraine must not build up its military using Western support and that Crimea must remain under Russian control.
The WSJ analysis admits that there were some deep concessions on the table from the Ukraine side, and further underscores many of these things would likely remain in place in any future deal where Ukraine would no doubt be inflicted with even more compromises given its forces are currently being rolled back by superior Russian military might.
"The draft treaty states that Ukraine, while being allowed to pursue European Union membership, wouldn’t be allowed to join military alliances such as the North Atlantic Treaty Organization," according to the report. "No foreign weapons would be allowed on Ukrainian soil."
And importantly, "Ukraine’s military would be pared down to a specific size." The proposed deal even sought to impose permanent limitations on the Ukraine armed forces' troop numbers: "Russia sought to limit everything from the number of troops and tanks to the maximum firing range of Ukrainian missiles."
Another key point dealt with the role of the Russian language in Ukrainian society. Some two-thirds of the country at least knows Russian, while much of the eastern portion that includes the Donbas speaks Russian as their first language. The document reportedly sought to ensure the Russian language had an equal status in Ukrainian government ministries and in courts. The Zelensky government has since the war's start sought to aggressively limit and even stamp out Russian in the public sphere.
According to more context of the draft deal from the WSJ:
The future of the area of eastern Ukraine covertly invaded and occupied by Russia in 2014, wasn’t included in the draft, leaving it up to Putin and Zelensky to complete in face-to-face talks. That meeting never took place.
The treaty was to be guaranteed by foreign powers, which are listed on the document as including the U.S., U.K, China, France and Russia. Those countries would be given the responsibility to defend Ukraine’s neutrality if the treaty were violated. But while the treaty held, guarantors would be required to “terminate international treaties and agreements incompatible with the permanent neutrality of Ukraine” including any promises of bilateral military aid. The international security guarantees wouldn’t apply to Crimea and Sevastopol.
Negotiations stopped completely by June of that year, and there were widespread reports months after indicating that UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson encouraged Zelensky not to make a deal with Moscow.
Meanwhile, entering the third year of this horrific and tragic conflict which has taken countless lives:
Hundreds of billions in arms and funding have since been poured into Kiev and its war effort, and tragically likely hundreds of thousands have died. So much death and destruction could have been averted if an early deal had been reached and held, and backed by external powers.
The WSJ gives specifics on troop limitations from the 17-page document in the following:
The draft treaty with Ukraine included banning foreign weapons, “including missile weapons of any type, armed forces and formations.” Moscow wanted Ukraine’s armed forces capped at 85,000 troops, 342 tanks and 519 artillery pieces. Ukrainian negotiators wanted 250,000 troops, 800 tanks and 1,900 artillery pieces, according to the document. Russia wanted to have the range of Ukrainian missiles capped at 40 kilometers (about 25 miles).
But Ukraine is now likely in for more severe restrictions on any future Ukrainian state and military, should there ever be a negotiation for the end of the war reached (assuming Moscow and NATO don't stumble into direct war by then).
Bloomberg on Thursday issued a report predicting total collapse of the Ukrainian front lines by summer, as the headline suggests (Ukraine Sees Risk of Russia Breaking Through Defenses by Summer): "Ukrainian officials are concerned that Russian advances could gain significant momentum by the summer unless their allies can increase the supply of ammunition, according to a person familiar with their analysis," the report said. Will peace settlement talks begin at that point, or will the West intervene even more forcefully?
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We need Trump NOW. We can’t wait until next January. Fortunately there are signs that Trump is already being viewed by some foreign leaders as the likely next president and so are taking cues from him, and Trump is acting presidential, issuing statements as if he were already the incumbent. Maybe in some way he can begin to facilitate negotiations.
The problem is neither Zelensky nor Putin is likely to give him the time of day. Putin has stated outright that he prefers Biden over Trump for obvious reasons, hence there’s no reason to think he would meet with or talk to Trump unofficially, and Zelensky is not going to end the war while the flow of money continues from the U.S. into his pockets. Trump’s calls would be refused and he’d be arrested on sight if he set foot in Ukraine, and charged with being a “Russian asset” (Zelensky having taken cue from the U.S. state controlled propaganda machine i.e. mainstream media.)
It sounds like things are going to blow up well before this fall. Either Ukraine will fall and be absorbed in its entirety by Russia, or we will have direct confrontation with the world’s second biggest nuclear superpower. Oh goody.
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We will not have a confrontation with Russia. Right now Russia can do whatever they want because they know the US is weak and will not confront them.
If Trump becomes president, they will cool their aggression and use that time to rebuild their military internally.
The real threat to the US is China, Iran and the US Intelligence community.
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We will not have a confrontation with Russia. Right now Russia can do whatever they want because they know the US is weak and will not confront them.
If Trump becomes president, they will cool their aggression and use that time to rebuild their military internally.
The real threat to the US is China, Iran and the US Intelligence community.
Good point, and I agree. I get the idea from Tucker's interview with Putin that Putin himself does not want a direct confrontation with America. Iran on the other hand is run by insane Islamofascists who openly call for the destruction of the U.S. and China simply wants to dominate the western Pacific and the world's economy (both involving Taiwan's chip industry) - I think they will ultimately fail, but they are run by insane communists who actually will never take over the U.S. militarily, but ARE in the process currently of destroying her from within. Buying up farmland, contaminating our children with Tic-Toc propaganda, infiltrating our highest levels of government (Fang Fang) buying off even higher levels (Biden and son). And of course the IC is complicit in ALL of this, themselves now taken over by America-hating leftists and control freak statists.
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https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/details-failed-russia-ukraine-peace-deal-first-months-war-revealed
Details Of 'Sabotaged' Russia-Ukraine Peace Deal In First Months Of War Revealed
Here's the original WSJ article:
https://www.wsj.com/world/russia-ukraine-peace-deal-2022-document-6e12e093?st=jzk6nv1sa9btmmm&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink (https://www.wsj.com/world/russia-ukraine-peace-deal-2022-document-6e12e093?st=jzk6nv1sa9btmmm&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink)
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Ten percent for the big guy too.
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Ten percent for the big guy too.
Here’s what is so fucked up. We (US gov) borrows the money to give to Zelenskyy. So while he gets the cash free and clear, and it’s not a loan, our government (Us) have to pay the interest on this money.
So why doesn’t Zelenskyy go and secure the loans on behalf of his country? We know the answer.
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How many walls could we hav e built? How many EV charging stations could have been built? I have a FB friend that lives in the D.C. area. He took a trip by car to go see the eclipse. On his way back he had stopped near one of Musk's charging stations. He said one was out of order the other were full and cars were lined up waiting. EV's are not serious vehicles for traveling yet. Around town and back and forth to work, maybe.
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. EV's are not serious vehicles for traveling yet.
Keyword being "YET".
IMNSHO, the only legitimate gripe against EVs are the Federal mandates and tax credits. Everything else is just noise.
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Keyword being "YET".
IMNSHO, the only legitimate gripe against EVs are the Federal mandates and tax credits. Everything else is just noise.
B.S. The grid nor generation can't support EVs. Also, most people can't charge at home. Apartment dwellers, row home and people with on street parking (city dwellers), etc. Plus the range and charging stations aren't there.
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B.S. The grid nor generation can't support EVs. Also, most people can't charge at home. Apartment dwellers, row home and people with on street parking (city dwellers), etc. Plus the range and charging stations aren't there.
As I said: Keyword being "yet".
And only people from Philadelphia know what a row home is.
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As I said: Keyword being "yet".
And only people from Philadelphia know what a row home is.
so you are hand-waving away all those fiddling bits (anyone get the reference) and are claiming the legit gripe [sic] are mandates and tax credits? OY. Talk about ignoring the elephant...
btw - plenty of people know what a row home is.
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Also, most people can't charge at home. Apartment dwellers, row home and people with on street parking (city dwellers), etc.
"Sixty-three percent of all Housing Units have a Garage or Carport"
"Note: A housing unit is a house, apartment, group of rooms, or single room occupied or intended for occupancy as separate living quarters."
Source: https://www.energy.gov/eere/vehicles/fact-958-january-2-2017-sixty-three-percent-all-housing-units-have-garage-or-carport (https://www.energy.gov/eere/vehicles/fact-958-january-2-2017-sixty-three-percent-all-housing-units-have-garage-or-carport)
So technically "most" (i.e. >50%) housing units likely have power outlets available to charge an EV at the owner's home parking spot.
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"Sixty-three percent of all Housing Units have a Garage or Carport"
"Note: A housing unit is a house, apartment, group of rooms, or single room occupied or intended for occupancy as separate living quarters."
Source: https://www.energy.gov/eere/vehicles/fact-958-january-2-2017-sixty-three-percent-all-housing-units-have-garage-or-carport (https://www.energy.gov/eere/vehicles/fact-958-january-2-2017-sixty-three-percent-all-housing-units-have-garage-or-carport)
So technically "most" (i.e. >50%) housing units likely have power outlets available to charge an EV at the owner's home parking spot.
A .gov website. Brought to you by a government with an agenda.
Yea, I'm going to trust their data. ::)
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A .gov website. Brought to you by a government with an agenda.
Yea, I'm going to trust their data. ::)
A deep conspiracy in the counting of garages? Hoo boy....
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A deep conspiracy in the counting of garages? Hoo boy....
Yep, the government has never lied, they have never altered data, they have never had an agenda.
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After a couple years my phone’s battery only lasts half a day, in three years my hearing aid batteries were not charging half the time, my laptop battery crashed after four years. Yeah I want a car powered by a rechargeable battery. ::)
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As I said: Keyword being "yet".
And only people from Philadelphia know what a row home is.
There is no "yet". You're NEVER going to have charging stations on street, nor in apartment complexes parking lots for every space. Also, building power plants and distribution takes decades or longer IF it ever happens. So still B.S.
Where do the minerals for batteries come from? They're not here, domestically. Where are most batteries and electric car parts made? CHINA. EVs are the biggest joke since the Covid response. ::)
Of course the two closet Leftists still push for EVs. GMAFB.
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There is no "yet". You're NEVER going to have charging stations on street, nor in apartment complexes parking lots for every space. Also, building power plants and distribution takes decades or longer IF it ever happens. So still B.S.
Where do the minerals for batteries come from? They're not here, domestically. Where are most batteries and electric car parts made? CHINA. EVs are the biggest joke since the Covid response. ::)
Of course the two closet Leftists still push for EVs. GMAFB.
Even if only half, or a quarter of homes will ever have charging stations, compare that to how many homes have gas pumps in their garage?
Top six countries with the largest lithium reserves in the world
1. Bolivia – 21 million tonnes
2. Argentina – 17 million tonnes
3. Chile – 9 million tonnes
4. United States – 6.8 million tonnes
5. Australia – 6.3 million tonnes
6. China – 4.5 million tonnes
And there are several battery technologies that don't depend on some of the nastier elements currently used.
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Even if only half, or a quarter of homes will ever have charging stations, compare that to how many homes have gas pumps in their garage?
The US has 145,000 locations to buy gas. One doesn't need to fill a gas tank daily.
And there are several battery technologies that don't depend on some of the nastier elements currently used.
Those nastier elements are cheaper, hence why the battery producers want them over the more expensive technologies.
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Y'all don't get it. You are not supposed to be driving. You are supposed to be on the bus and the train. No worries about chargers and batteries.
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Our neighbor works for a public utility district. He works directly to maintain our grid. He says it is not robust and they struggle to maintain it, much less expand it. Our area is one that is growing very quickly in population because we had a good thing going before the creeping liberal rot made its way from Seattle to us. But it is here. He says getting parts to maintain equipment and finding good employees have gotten more difficult. Vaccine mandates didn’t help. We saw during covid what even a small supply chain disruption could do.
Idiot governor Inslee is waging war on both natural gas AND internal combustion vehicles. New homes can’t be built that use natural gas. He is imposing ridiculous requirements with lofty, virtue-signalling and totalitarian policies that force everything (EVERYTHING) onto the electrical grid.
I ask you. Wouldn’t competent leadership move into using different sources of energy gradually, instead of forcing too-quick dependence on ONE source? In fact, ALWAYS having a variety of energy sources would be the best. But that’s exactly what “leadership” is not doing.
Someone is profiting from the manufacture of electric cars and batteries, and there is a corresponding and very tempting conduit of control that the electrical grid provides to those who want to control us. That’s not a conspiracy theory. The slavering quest for narrow energy dependence, because it IS unwise and crippling for human flourishing, is one of the big reveals of the rigged and corrupt system we’re living under.
Provide multiple energy sources, innovate, and let people decide which to use. Joe gets his EV and Jose and Maria get their 2002 Honda Accord. The web of transportation is stronger. But don’t skew hundreds of millions of dollars over onto making spots for a diminishing number of people (EVs are not practical and sales are declining) to plug cars into chargers. We have more important needs in this country.
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The US has 145,000 locations to buy gas. One doesn't need to fill a gas tank daily.
Just because it is so simple and easy to charge an EV, it doesn't mean people will need to do it every day. A 200 mile charge will last me over a week.
Those nastier elements are cheaper, hence why the battery producers want them over the more expensive technologies.
Funny how the anti EV crowd has suddenly become a bunch of environmentalists.
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Our neighbor works for a public utility district. He works directly to maintain our grid. He says it is not robust and they struggle to maintain it, much less expand it. Our area is one that is growing very quickly in population because we had a good thing going before the creeping liberal rot made its way from Seattle to us. But it is here. He says getting parts to maintain equipment and finding good employees have gotten more difficult. Vaccine mandates didn’t help. We saw during covid what even a small supply chain disruption could do.
Idiot governor Inslee is waging war on both natural gas AND internal combustion vehicles. New homes can’t be built that use natural gas. He is imposing ridiculous requirements with lofty, virtue-signalling and totalitarian policies that force everything (EVERYTHING) onto the electrical grid.
I ask you. Wouldn’t competent leadership move into using different sources of energy gradually, instead of forcing too-quick dependence on ONE source? In fact, ALWAYS having a variety of energy sources would be the best. But that’s exactly what “leadership” is not doing.
Someone is profiting from the manufacture of electric cars and batteries, and there is a corresponding and very tempting conduit of control that the electrical grid provides to those who want to control us. That’s not a conspiracy theory. The slavering quest for narrow energy dependence, because it IS unwise and crippling for human flourishing, is one of the big reveals of the rigged and corrupt system we’re living under.
Provide multiple energy sources, innovate, and let people decide which to use. Joe gets his EV and Jose and Maria get their 2002 Honda Accord. The web of transportation is stronger. But don’t skew hundreds of millions of dollars over onto making spots for a diminishing number of people (EVs are not practical and sales are declining) to plug cars into chargers. We have more important needs in this country.
My husband and I both worked for electric utilities, my husband up until he retired two years ago. This country has a LOOMING electric grid reliability problem. Not just the grid but ALL utilities and all forms of energy and all transportation and all infrastructure. This is because the people who uphold and maintain all of this are largely older generation MALES, and they are retiring in droves. Yes women are majoring a bit more in engineering and sciences but not in nearly enough numbers to replace the old guys, and not in the boots on the ground work (skilled labor). The young men are first of all, way fewer in numbers as the birth rate has crashed, and secondly, experiencing an epidemic of mental problems rendering them unable to do much but play video games in mom's basement or major in "journalism" in college.
There is such a brain drain in the energy industry that my husband was offered almost $250,000 a year to come back in an engineering management position but they wanted a 3 year commitment and he said fuck that, no way.
Getting parts is a huge problem, because we simply don't make them in the U.S. anymore, we don't make our own steel, we don't make our own electronics. There were big advantages to globalism like taking advantage of cheap labor overseas but the price we pay is loss of control over our own supply chain. Quality control is a HUGE problem. Anything made in China is suspect.
Plants and equipment are aging out and not being replaced. The cheapest most efficient ways to generate electricity are being phased out by incredibly destructive leftist policies based on eliminating fossil fuels or hobbling nuclear generation with crushing regulatory requirements. The latter was a long term problem starting in the 80s or before. I know, I worked at a nuke plant. It was like 90% suck the dick of the federal government and 10% actually get something accomplished. (Excuse my graphic analogy, I've been listening to too much Styx, lol!) If not for that we'd have a robust base of nuclear generation.
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So technically "most" (i.e. >50%) housing units likely have power outlets available to charge an EV at the owner's home parking spot.
how many carports have a power outlet capable of charging an EV?
how many garages in apartment complexes (presumably that would include "housing units") have power outlets for each parking space?
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Just because it is so simple and easy to charge an EV, it doesn't mean people will need to do it every day. A 200 mile charge will last me over a week.Funny how the anti EV crowd has suddenly become a bunch of environmentalists.
I have no problem with EVs if you live in a city and never go nearly far enough in a day to need a charge. More power to you! My beef isn't the environmentalism; it's the impracticality of using it for anyone not limiting their travel to 15 minute runs around the city, and the fact that the left is not keeping it voluntary but pushing mandates that we move to all electric. That's anti-free market authoritarianism, and it's based on a climate change hoax and the goal of the elite class to control all the rest of us. That is a huge problem.
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Just because it is so simple and easy to charge an EV, it doesn't mean people will need to do it every day. A 200 mile charge will last me over a week.
Did your wife finally buy you an EV? What did you get?
The people I know that own EV's charge every night. Why? Because they don't want to get caught in a traffic jam for hours with a half charged (or less) battery. Reality is if one is caught in a traffic jam and runs down the battery, no one can bring you a can of electricity to get you to a charging station.
Funny how the anti EV crowd has suddenly become a bunch of environmentalists.
It's called reality. EV's aren't enviromental friendly as they are made out to be.
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I have no problem with EVs if you live in a city and never go nearly far enough in a day to need a charge. More power to you! My beef isn't the environmentalism; it's the impracticality of using it for anyone not limiting their travel to 15 minute runs around the city, and the fact that the left is not keeping it voluntary but pushing mandates that we move to all electric. That's anti-free market authoritarianism, and it's based on a climate change hoax and the goal of the elite class to control all the rest of us. That is a huge problem.
The leftist communist are making rules through a federal agency (EPA) to force the transition to electric. These rules although administrative have the force of law behind them and are unconstitutional. But the regime doesn't care, just let the executive keep making laws and imposing them while the legislative looks the other way.
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There is no "yet". You're NEVER going to have charging stations on street, nor in apartment complexes parking lots for every space. Also, building power plants and distribution takes decades or longer IF it ever happens. So still B.S.
Where do the minerals for batteries come from? They're not here, domestically. Where are most batteries and electric car parts made? CHINA. EVs are the biggest joke since the Covid response. ::)
Of course the two closet Leftists still push for EVs. GMAFB.
You under estimate the power of Governments to mandate things.
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The leftist communist are making rules through a federal agency (EPA) to force the transition to electric. These rules although administrative have the force of law behind them and are unconstitutional. But the regime doesn't care, just let the executive keep making laws and imposing them while the legislative looks the other way.
The EPA needs to be completely abolished! They’ve ruined my washing machine, and my dishwasher, FUCK THEM and may they be damned into Hell!
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Just because it is so simple and easy to charge an EV, it doesn't mean people will need to do it every day. A 200 mile charge will last me over a week.Funny how the anti EV crowd has suddenly become a bunch of environmentalists.
Before whining about the anti EV crowd, look into how lithium batteries are polluting the environment.
What is funny is how desperate the EV crowd is to shut down dissent.
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Before whining about the anti EV crowd, look into how lithium batteries are polluting the environment.
What is funny is how desperate the EV crowd is to shut down dissent.
They are incredibly dangerous. One of our neighbors’ house burned down a few months ago, the fire department determined it was a battery in a weed eater or the like, in his garage. Just went off, all by itself when nobody was around thank goodness, no one was hurt in the fire. If it had happened in the middle of the night with everyone at home asleep, might have lost more than just their house and all their belongings.
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The EV crowd can’t allow the truth about the false god they worship to impede the leftist agenda and the crowd of useful idiots line up too babble the party line without a shred of honesty, integrity, or intelligence.
When you examine how much energy is wasted in the manufacture of EV’s and the ecological damage their creation causes, you begin to understand how fake the idiot environmental mental cases have become.
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They are incredibly dangerous. One of our neighbors’ house burned down a few months ago, the fire department determined it was a battery in a weed eater or the like, in his garage. Just went off, all by itself when nobody was around thank goodness, no one was hurt in the fire. If it had happened in the middle of the night with everyone at home asleep, might have lost more than just their house and all their belongings.
Ice vehicles are more likely to catch on fire than EVs. And that is per 100,000 vehicles, not raw numbers.
Hybrids are even more likely to catch fire than either. I'd provide a link but it would the link would just be criticized so I suggest you look it up on sites you do believe.
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When you examine how much energy is wasted in the manufacture of EV’s and the ecological damage their creation causes, you begin to understand how fake the idiot environmental mental cases have become.
I'm going to coin a new word:
neo-environmentalist. People that are suddenly environmentalists when it suits their agenda but have never given a shit about the environment before.
But I have neither the energy or desire to counter every stupid argument against EVs from an echo chamber.
I am totally against mandates, tax credits or penalties pushing EVs. But I am just as staunchly against people that try to tell me I am the stupid one or a typical liberal because I think EVs have a future and that they would suit my situation and driving patterns perfectly.
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Funny how the anti EV crowd has suddenly become a bunch of environmentalists.
I'm going to coin a new word:
neo-environmentalist. People that are suddenly environmentalists when it suits their agenda but have never given a shit about the environment before.
Nope. Just pointing out the hypocrisy. I think you already knew that.
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Nope. Just pointing out the hypocrisy. I think you already knew that.
I have no reason not to believe that about you, and a few others.
But many of the anti-EV crowd are actually displaying that same hypocrisy when they whine about how bad batteries are for the environment.
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I'm going to coin a new word:
neo-environmentalist. People that are suddenly environmentalists when it suits their agenda but have never given a shit about the environment before.
But I have neither the energy or desire to counter every stupid argument against EVs from an echo chamber.
I am totally against mandates, tax credits or penalties pushing EVs. But I am just as staunchly against people that try to tell me I am the stupid one or a typical liberal because I think EVs have a future and that they would suit my situation and driving patterns perfectly.
No, Joe. Everyone commenting about the real-world issues EVs have does care about the environment. You’re the one who leapt ahead of that truth and branded us as something you think we are so you could coin your own word and feel condemnatory, which you seem to enjoy.
You assume our “agenda” is to condemn EVs, despite much presentation of and discussion of the again, REAL WORLD issues they have practically, environmentally, and ethically. No one expects you to counter every argument against them, because you’ve clearly established yourself as for them, despite their many problems. Therefore, collective arguments against them, by several people with excellent reasoning, resonate to you as an an echo chamber, yet another condemnatory slap in the face to intelligent discussion.
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Ice vehicles are more likely to catch on fire than EVs. And that is per 100,000 vehicles, not raw numbers.
Hybrids are even more likely to catch fire than either. I'd provide a link but it would the link would just be criticized so I suggest you look it up on sites you do believe.
From crashes and stuff maybe, but I don't believe ICE vehicles are more likely to catch fire just sitting in the garage in the middle of the night for no reason.
I accept the risk on the road. When kinetic, all vehicles are risky and I accept the risk vs the benefit of getting somewhere. That risk is easily managed by me being a good driver. And not smoking like a stupid idiot while filling my tank. It's largely under your control. EV batteries on the other hand go off randomly, so much so that some models even advise against keeping them in your garage, ever. Park them out on the street. Which means you can't charge them overnight, you have to charge them, unplug them, and move them outside before going to bed in the evening.
No thank you.
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I am totally against mandates, tax credits or penalties pushing EVs. But I am just as staunchly against people that try to tell me I am the stupid one or a typical liberal because I think EVs have a future and that they would suit my situation and driving patterns perfectly.
I know you are. I'm not one to think you're a liberal because you like your EV. I have no problem with that if it fits your lifestyle.
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You under estimate the power of Governments to mandate things.
No, I agree. Government are already doing it.
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I have no reason not to believe that about you, and a few others.
But many of the anti-EV crowd are actually displaying that same hypocrisy when they whine about how bad batteries are for the environment.
EVs only work if you have ready access to an ICE vehicle, have a home charging station and enough money to buy them. Then there's still a matter of generation and distribution to support them.
How do they dispose of the batteries? It's not just about their manufacture. Bottom line, this is all to make the players in the public and private sectors richer and LIMIT TRAVEL.
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EVs only work if you have ready access to an ICE vehicle, have a home charging station and enough money to buy them.
That works for me. But I wouldn't have a need for an ICE vehicle too. Although the Bonanza has an ICE.
Then there's still a matter of generation and distribution to support them.
That is just a matter of time. It will happen.
How do they dispose of the batteries? It's not just about their manufacture.
Recycling old batteries is a legitimate problem. But there are technologies in the works that promise to help with that.
A friend of mine has a 2013 Tesla with almost 300,000 miles. He lives about 65 miles from his job in Atlanta, so about 130 miles per day. He has lost about 15% battery capacity since new. He figures he saved enough on gas to buy a new Tesla. And when the battery loses enough to make it unacceptable, it is still perfectly suitable to be used as battery backup for a home or business, which will extend it's life for another 10 years or so. By that time, I suspect battery recycling will be improved.
But why is it that people that are gung ho on nuclear power don't care about that nuclear waste that lasts for hundreds of thousands of years?
Bottom line, this is all to make the players in the public and private sectors richer and LIMIT TRAVEL.
I'm not going to defend the people in the public sector. But what's wrong with people in the private sector developing a technology that will make them richer? But limit travel? I don't think so. If anything, cheaper fuel will enhance travel.
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I'm not going to defend the people in the public sector. But what's wrong with people in the private sector developing a technology that will make them richer?
Nothing at all. I'm a big fan of Elon Musk. My problem is with the climate hoax tyrants and politicians who all try to force it on all of us against our will.
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That is just a matter of time. It will happen.
And how will that happen? Can't build coal fired plants, no one wants to build nuclear plants due the amount of time involved, not to mention the cost. Where will the generation come from?
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Nothing wrong with the private sector making money on a new technology that SELLS ON ITS OWN MERIT due to market demand. Not artificially forced profits due to their corrupt symbiotic relationship with GOVERNMENT and the POLITICIANS and bureaucrats that control agencies like the EPA.
Jeez Joe. Take off the blinders.
Just because you have a place to charge and the money to by an EV, doesn't mean most other people have them. They don't. Most other people live paycheck to paycheck and or need government assistance.
More generation and more distribution will NOT be built in our lifetime. Not even close. Maybe 50 years and then what will be allowed to power that generation? Solar? HA! Wind? HA!
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And how will that happen? Can't build coal fired plants, no one wants to build nuclear plants due the amount of time involved, not to mention the cost. Where will the generation come from?
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Nothing wrong with the private sector making money on a new technology that SELLS ON ITS OWN MERIT due to market demand. Not artificially forced profits due to their corrupt symbiotic relationship with GOVERNMENT and the POLITICIANS and bureaucrats that control agencies like the EPA.
Jeez Joe. Take off the blinders.
I'm not the one with the blinders on.
Just because you have a place to charge and the money to by an EV, doesn't mean most other people have them. They don't. Most other people live paycheck to paycheck and or need government assistance.
Aw gee. You forgot to say "it's for the children".
More generation and more distribution will NOT be built in our lifetime. Not even close. Maybe 50 years and then what will be allowed to power that generation? Solar? HA! Wind? HA!
There is currently more power waiting to join the grid than the total being supplied by the grid today, but the regulatory backlog is over 5 years and growing.
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There is currently more power waiting to join the grid than the total being supplied by the grid today, but the regulatory backlog is over 5 years and growing.
ah, it's the bureaucrats holding back more electricity getting to homes. Nothing to do with grid capacity, nothing to do with the robustness of the grid (or lack thereof). It's just the bureaucrats.
got it.
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ah, it's the bureaucrats holding back more electricity getting to homes. Nothing to do with grid capacity, nothing to do with the robustness of the grid (or lack thereof). It's just the bureaucrats.
got it.
No, you don't got it.
It is not just the bureaucrats. It is also, as you say, grid capacity.
What you don't seem to get is that grid capacity can be increased. The problem is that it is hard to do when half the country opposes anything the other half tries to do.
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Also, regarding grid capacity,
Rooftop solar can increase available power without relying on the grid to any great extent.
Oh, but solar is a bad word because liberals like it.
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No, you don't got it.
It is not just the bureaucrats. It is also, as you say, grid capacity.
What you don't seem to get is that grid capacity can be increased. The problem is that it is hard to do when half the country opposes anything the other half tries to do.
Increasing grid capacity is of course possible (DUH)
what you don't seem to get is the difficulty of doing so... even if the whole country, indeed the whole world supported it.
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Also, regarding grid capacity,
Rooftop solar can increase available power without relying on the grid to any great extent.
Oh, but solar is a bad word because liberals like it.
Roof top solar is great, if you can afford it, to buy and maintain, and if you have your own house. It’s not universally feasible.
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Joe cracks me up. “Solar is a bad word because liberals like it.” Hahahaha!
First, solar is not a bad word. It works great for guys in off-grid settings who don’t have huge household power needs.
I’m in a sunny part of our state, and even with rooftops covered with solar panels people can’t run their homes with the power produced, much less charge their cars. The solar panel homeowners sell the trickle of power to the utility company to put in the grid and then sell back to them.
We know a guy who spent $28,000 to put up the panels. Later he had to move, so never realized that investment in any sort of payback. Plus, complaints are being lodged right and left against the solar panel installers. They’re grifters to a high degree. Reports of damage to roofs and failures to meet promised commitments for repairs and maintenance are common. Access to state and local government energy “rebates” and “incentives” is as tempting to grifters as all the other government largesse schemes. The companies set up in storefronts, make their killings, and vanish. And we the taxpayers and rate payers fund the government participation in this. So.
Have you ever seen the photos of massive solar farms demolished by hailstorms? Have you ever seen a solar panel boneyard? What are the panels made of, and how does their decomposition affect the earth and water?
Joe will say solar is a young industry and has great potential. True. He also doesn’t believe in mandates by stupid, invasive and controlling government entities. Great! Trouble is, our idiot governor has decreed that $89 million will be used to build EV chargers throughout the state. A state with grid problems. The same governor is banning use of natural gas for heating and cooking. He also is trying to eliminate ICE vehicles any way he can. And we’re back where we started. Funneling everyone onto one source of energy, thus creating energy insecurity.
Multiple sources, strong sources, recoverable and sustainable sources. Without a variety of ways to produce and access energy, we are weakened.
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Trouble is, our idiot governor has decreed that $89 million will be used to build EV chargers throughout the state. A state with grid problems. The same governor is banning use of natural gas for heating and cooking. He also is trying to eliminate ICE vehicles any way he can.
And there you have it. The problem isn't with solar or electric. It is with the idiot you guys elected as governor. AND with the idiots that all of us put in the White House and Senate. Yes, WE (the collective WE) elected those idiots.
You need a Ron DeSantis running things for a while.
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If not for the government interference, like the subsidies, and it were a true competitive free market, maybe you could get them without being scammed. There's at least one person I know who has them and likes them, if for no other reason, they will supply at least some power independent of society if the shit hits the fan. Also stocks up on dehydrated food. I do too but not for the zombiepocalypse, just for regular hurricanes.
I also realized I'm sitting in the middle of a target if we get into WW3. I thought this little out of the way corner of the state would be safe but no. This place is full of refineries. What is Ukraine hitting in Russia right now? All their refineries. Fuck it. Nowhere is safe anymore.
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And there you have it. The problem isn't with solar or electric. It is with the idiot you guys elected as governor. AND with the idiots that all of us put in the White House and Senate. Yes, WE (the collective WE) elected those idiots.
You need a Ron DeSantis running things for a while.
There's LOTS wrong with them. Solar and wind are inefficient, very expensive and impractical. Nothing wrong with electricity if we had the generation and grid capabilities.
Battery cars aren't electric. They're battery powered and we've already discussed the plethora of shortcomings they have on their own and the plethora of reasons why most Americans can't use them and can't afford them.
Keep grasping at straws to try to save face, but that ship has sailed.
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Dispersed solar generation and load leveling batteries would be great for Ukraine since Russia has been attacking the small number of large power plants that supply power to Ukraine's grid.
And Russia could use a dispersed raw energy source since Ukraine has started targeting their large oil refineries.
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My husband knows a lot more than I do about the grid. He worked in the electric generation industry for 45 years. Compared to the scant few I did because I quit to have babies. Anyhoo, I asked him about the future of our grid and he said this:
“The current grid capacity isn’t growing and the margins are shrinking. Expect rolling brown outs and black outs in the future and much of it depends on how much faith is put on renewables. The more renewables the less robust the grid will be.”
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Wait, what? Oh, that’s right, this is the Ukraine thread. There’s a whole story about Styx being back in the Netherlands. He had to fly on a Boeing.
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I made the mistake of viewing that video by Tarl Warwick (aka Styxhexenhammer666). He is utterly clueless on this subject because he disregards or doesn't know that Putin will not settle for anything less than total control of Ukraine - by direct control or by a proxy government. He disses celebrities for their positions because they have no expertise that he is aware of, but he is himself known only for being a political/religious bloviating self-created celebrity. Pot, meet kettle.
The following claims could have come from past alter egos of Styx in the previous wars that Russia and the Soviet Union lost to smaller countries:
1994: "It's delusional to think Chechnya can win." (First Chechan War, 1994-1996)
1979: "It's delusional to think Afghanistan can win." (1979 - 1989)
1919: "It's delusional to think Poland can win." (Polish-Soviet war of 1919-1920j
1918: "It's delusional to think Estonia can win." (Estonian war of independence, 1918 -1920)
1918: "It's delusional to think Latvia can win." (Latvian war of independence, 1918 -1920)
Those are just the ones in the twentieth century.
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I didn't realize the Soviet Union won in Afghanistan. Are they still there?
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I made the mistake of viewing that video by Tarl Warwick (aka Styxhexenhammer666). He is utterly clueless on this subject because he disregards or doesn't know that Putin will not settle for anything less than total control of Ukraine - by direct control or by a proxy government. He disses celebrities for their positions because they have no expertise that he is aware of, but he is himself known only for being a political/religious bloviating self-created celebrity. Pot, meet kettle.
The following claims could have come from past alter egos of Styx in the previous wars that Russia and the Soviet Union lost to smaller countries:
1994: "It's delusional to think Chechnya can win." (First Chechan War, 1994-1996)
1979: "It's delusional to think Afghanistan can win." (1979 - 1989)
1919: "It's delusional to think Poland can win." (Polish-Soviet war of 1919-1920j
1918: "It's delusional to think Estonia can win." (Estonian war of independence, 1918 -1920)
1918: "It's delusional to think Latvia can win." (Latvian war of independence, 1918 -1920)
Those are just the ones in the twentieth century.
What did he say that isn’t factually correct? Not counting speculation about what is going to happen in the future which nobody knows. And are you seriously comparing his analysis to that of Barbara Streisand?
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What did he say that isn’t factually correct? Not counting speculation about what is going to happen in the future which nobody knows. And are you seriously comparing his analysis to that of Barbara Streisand?
He was factually incorrect in claiming Russia would accept a peace agreement with the current Ukraine government. Russia has demanded a "neutral" government in Ukraine, which is a demand to replace the existing government with one which they must approve. Also known as a demand for surrender. (Plus a demand to demilitarize - and something about denazification, whatever that means.)
Nor I did not hear him explain why Ukraine winning was delusional. As best I can tell, the closest he came to supporting that statement was noting that several third-world authoritarian countries were supplying Russia with munitions. Presumably those extra munitions outproduce the entire Western alliance?
I don't know what analysis, if any, Barbara Streisand has articulated (likely none.) But even if one adopts "appeal to authority" as heuristically valid I have no idea what experience Warwick has that makes him knowledgable about international politics or military matters that Streisand doesn't have. As best I can tell he, like most bloviators, can articulate his positions better than the average person.
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So where is Ukraine going to find enough troops to “win” this war?
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So where is Ukraine going to find enough troops to “win” this war?
Well, shithead schumer has threatened to send troops. Of course, they would be going in without a mission, a definition of what it would take to win anything, and without a fucking clue but then, democrats are in control, so stupid shit is the order of the day.
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So Blinken wants Ukraine to join NATO.
Does that mean the US will have to pay Ukraine’s membership as well?
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As I understand it, a nation at war cannot join NATO. Ukraine can join once peace breaks out.
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As I understand it, a nation at war cannot join NATO. Ukraine can join once peace breaks out.
We would hope.
But there is no purpose to bring Ukraine into NATO other than to antagonize Russia. Besides, the US is having to support Ukraine financially, which means even if Ukraine was admitted, it would fall upon the US to borrow even more money to give to Ukraine for their membership. And given the fact that several NATO countries don't even pay their fair share as it is, just more opportunities for Zelenskyy and company to skim that money.
Clusterfuck only begins to describe the situation we should have never involved ourselves in.
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Well, shithead schumer has threatened to send troops. Of course, they would be going in without a mission, a definition of what it would take to win anything, and without a fucking clue but then, democrats are in control, so stupid shit is the order of the day.
Oh no. They would have very strict rules of engagement and all actions must be approved by the White House. Goals will be created as needed. This has been a democrat winning strategy since Truman sent "advisors" to Vietnam in 1950.
No disrespect to the troops. Massive disrespect to their political leaders.
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Thankfully Schumer doesn't have the authority to send troops anywhere.
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Oh no. They would have very strict rules of engagement and all actions must be approved by the White House. Goals will be created as needed. This has been a democrat winning strategy since Truman sent "advisors" to Vietnam in 1950.
No disrespect to the troops. Massive disrespect to their political leaders.
Which means our young men die and are wounded for political grandstanding. It's effing criminal.
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Next we will hear how unqualified JD Vance is to have an opinion............. ::)
https://twitter.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1779580973862031501
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Next we will hear how unqualified JD Vance is to have an opinion............. ::)
https://twitter.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1779580973862031501
I surprised CNN even aired a dissenting opinion from the Biden "administration" narrative.
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Next we will hear how unqualified JD Vance is to have an opinion............. ::)
https://twitter.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1779580973862031501
JD Vance says what we all feel.
No more aid for Ukraine.
They can't win the war.
Obviously. I agree that if Ukraine gets no more aid, they can't win the war.
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Obviously. I agree that if Ukraine gets no more aid, they can't win the war.
And how is pouring more money into them going to help them "win"? Where will they get the troops? Will the money buy those?
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And how is pouring more money into them going to help them "win"? Where will they get the troops? Will the money buy those?
Mercenaries? The Russians use them.
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Mercenaries? The Russians use them.
Of course. But in small numbers.
Ukraine needs thousands upon thousands. Who pays for them?
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Of course. But in small numbers.
Ukraine needs thousands upon thousands. Who pays for them?
The treasonous biden crime syndicate will have no problem taking the money from veterans affairs.
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Of course. But in small numbers.
Ukraine needs thousands upon thousands. Who pays for them?
Small numbers? I wonder. How does the number of number of contract players like Blackwater compare to the number of regular troops in Iraq / Afghanistan / etc? The MIC would love to just use mercenaries. No profit in using regular troops.
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Small numbers? I wonder. How does the number of number of contract players like Blackwater compare to the number of regular troops in Iraq / Afghanistan / etc? The MIC would love to just use mercenaries. No profit in using regular troops.
The real money is made in support roles. Food services, cafeterias, warehouses, motor pool, fuel storage and delivery, lodging, logistics and transportation. Also construction services and facility maintenance services.
These support roles outnumber troops, are high paying (usually no compete contracts). Iraq and Afghanistan were a huge financial windfall for the MIC.
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We in America have learned bitter lessons from two World Wars: It is better to be here ready to protect the peace, than to take blind shelter across the sea, rushing to respond only after freedom is lost. We’ve learned that isolationism never was and never will be an acceptable response to tyrannical governments with an expansionist intent.
Ronald Reagan, (6 JUNE 1984)
[Edit to add: I am not a Republican, but the above quote indicates that Lucifer isn't one either.]
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We in America have learned bitter lessons from two World Wars: It is better to be here ready to protect the peace, than to take blind shelter across the sea, rushing to respond only after freedom is lost. We’ve learned that isolationism never was and never will be an acceptable response to tyrannical governments with an expansionist intent.
Ronald Reagan, (6 JUNE 1984)
[Edit to add: I am not a Republican, but the above quote indicates that Lucifer isn't one either.]
Your bullshit aside, (and your observation is pure bullshit) Lucifer would feel offended to be labeled a republican in the modern sense of the word.
And no intelligent adult would ever think you were either conservative or republican.
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And no intelligent adult would ever think you were either conservative or republican.
You might be right,
But what do you think? ;)
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We in America have learned bitter lessons from two World Wars: It is better to be here ready to protect the peace, than to take blind shelter across the sea, rushing to respond only after freedom is lost. We’ve learned that isolationism never was and never will be an acceptable response to tyrannical governments with an expansionist intent.
Ronald Reagan, (6 JUNE 1984)
[Edit to add: I am not a Republican, but the above quote indicates that Lucifer isn't one either.]
Nope, I’m a conservative. You obviously don’t know the difference.
Reagan didn’t write that in defense of a dictatorial country. That’s another part of this you don’t get.
The neocons have pushed this regime change garbage around the world, and not once has it worked out. And now we have a government using a third world country being ruled by a petty dictator as a huge money laundering operation, and the US borrowing billions to give to them with zero accountability, and handing the tax payers the bill for the principal and interest.
You recently posted a thread showing how the debt service on borrowed money is out of control, yet here you are wearing your Ukraine lapel pin cheering more billions to be given to them.
Yes, I’m a conservative and damn proud of it. But the typical liberal will hide behind such things as “moderate” or even call themselves a “libertarian”. But the liberal always comes out.
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Reagan didn’t write that in defense of a dictatorial country. That’s another part of this you don’t get.
That's your incorrect assumption. Zelensky was just an actor who got elected to his position years after the Russians had occupied parts of Ukraine. He proposed constitutional changes to limit corruption. To date he appears to have followed the Ukraine constitution better than Biden has the US constitution. Ukrainians wanted to join the EU (NATO entry already denied,) and not be tied to the Russian economic sphere, and were pursuing that goal. You can claim Ukraine is or was a dictatorship to your heart's content, that don't make it so.
Now suppose Ukraine is as you claim - there were the security guarantees to which the US was a party. US makes agreements with dictatorships all the time. If you can't trust a man, or a country, to keep their word would you trust them in the future?
The neocons have pushed this regime change garbage around the world, and not once has it worked out. And now we have a government using a third world country being ruled by a petty dictator as a huge money laundering operation, and the US borrowing billions to give to them with zero accountability, and handing the tax payers the bill for the principal and interest.
I agree that neocons dish out stupid shit, but I've seen contrary evidence for Ukraine accountability and no mention of regime change in the case of Ukraine. (As to Zelensky-involved money laundering - if the Kremlin intelligence agencies had dirt on Zelensky don't you think they'd publicize it via their proxies? None of the articles you've linked to in the past indicated any enrichment of Zelensky. Other corruption, yes, but becoming less as best I can tell.)
You recently posted a thread showing how the debt service on borrowed money is out of control, yet here you are wearing your Ukraine lapel pin cheering more billions to be given to them.
Yes, I’m a conservative and damn proud of it. But the typical liberal will hide behind such things as “moderate” or even call themselves a “libertarian”. But the liberal always comes out.
I'm a pragmatic anarchist. My use of "anarchy" just means I'd as soon live without organized thuggery (government) while "pragmatic" means I have to settle for adapting to conditions of reality and act as freely as I can. I vote libertarian as a small sop to that end, though it seems a futile effort. Pragmatically I try to keep up on world events because they may affect me. What I see in this case is the die is cast, and that if Putin wins Ukraine because the US stops giving aid, his belief that he need only outlast the West will have been confirmed. The Chinese will learn the same lesson even if Putin doesn't take Ukraine - it knows that it has a chance to dominate the Pacific. Lots of ways such results are bad for me and I think to you too. I cannot see any long term good outcome of suddenly stopping US aid to Ukraine.
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That's your incorrect assumption. Zelensky was just an actor who got elected to his position years after the Russians had occupied parts of Ukraine. He proposed constitutional changes to limit corruption. To date he appears to have followed the Ukraine constitution better than Biden has the US constitution. Ukrainians wanted to join the EU (NATO entry already denied,) and not be tied to the Russian economic sphere, and were pursuing that goal. You can claim Ukraine is or was a dictatorship to your heart's content, that don't make it so.
Now suppose Ukraine is as you claim - there were the security guarantees to which the US was a party. US makes agreements with dictatorships all the time. If you can't trust a man, or a country, to keep their word would you trust them in the future?I agree that neocons dish out stupid shit, but I've seen contrary evidence for Ukraine accountability and no mention of regime change in the case of Ukraine. (As to Zelensky-involved money laundering - if the Kremlin intelligence agencies had dirt on Zelensky don't you think they'd publicize it via their proxies? None of the articles you've linked to in the past indicated any enrichment of Zelensky. Other corruption, yes, but becoming less as best I can tell.)I'm a pragmatic anarchist. My use of "anarchy" just means I'd as soon live without organized thuggery (government) while "pragmatic" means I have to settle for adapting to conditions of reality and act as freely as I can. I vote libertarian as a small sop to that end, though it seems a futile effort. Pragmatically I try to keep up on world events because they may affect me. What I see in this case is the die is cast, and that if Putin wins Ukraine because the US stops giving aid, his belief that he need only outlast the West will have been confirmed. The Chinese will learn the same lesson even if Putin doesn't take Ukraine - it knows that it has a chance to dominate the Pacific. Lots of ways such results are bad for me and I think to you too. I cannot see any long term good outcome of suddenly stopping US aid to Ukraine.
So where will the troops come from to defend Ukraine?
Why does the Biden Regime refuse accountability for money sent to Ukraine? What is there to hide?
Please justify the US borrowing billions to "give" to Ukraine while asking the taxpayer to repay principal and interest on the borrowed money.
Please justify giving this money to Ukraine while the US border is open and Americans go homeless and hungry, not to mention a crumbling US infrastructure.
Please justify the US depleting arms stockpiles to Ukraine. while admitting thousands upon thousands of single military aged invaders into the US.
Why is it so important that the Biden Regime wants Israel to ceasefire with Hamas, yet this same regime has hindered any ceasefire talks between Russia and Ukraine.
You say Ukraine is not a dictatorship, yet Zelenskyy has cancelled elections, shut down media critical of him, closed churches, outlawed opposition political parties, has jailed political opposition and conscripts men into his military by dragging them out of their houses and businesses against their will. Yep, seems he sure loves democracy ::)
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To a left wing liberal all those things above are good as long as used to punish anyone not far left.
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So where will the troops come from to defend Ukraine?
That's for Ukraine to solve. Though with sufficient munitions they were holding their own, particularly with air defense weapons and artillery. (French President Macron has proposed putting French troops in Ukraine, in some alleged non-combat or support roles. Now that would be something if that happened.)
Why does the Biden Regime refuse accountability for money sent to Ukraine? What is there to hide?
When did this refusal take place? The DoD claims processes are in place: https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/3313904/defense-officials-us-ensures-accountability-of-systems-supplied-to-ukraine/ (https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/3313904/defense-officials-us-ensures-accountability-of-systems-supplied-to-ukraine/)
Please justify the US borrowing billions to "give" to Ukraine while asking the taxpayer to repay principal and interest on the borrowed money.
I don't justify it. It is, however, an action already underway. Like the payments I was forced to make to Social Security. If I start taking SS am I then justifying the previous taking?
Please justify giving this money to Ukraine while the US border is open and Americans go homeless and hungry, not to mention a crumbling US infrastructure.
China and Russia appear to be the only powers on the planet that pose any credible military threat to the US. The southern border presents a lower priority threat. Infrastructure and fiscal problems are best solved at the state and local level, not Federal. Unlike national defense, they aren't listed in the Constitution.
Please justify the US depleting arms stockpiles to Ukraine. while admitting thousands upon thousands of single military aged invaders into the US.
See above. "Military aged" is a meaningless scare phrase. That cadre has been entering the US for work since the Mexican Revolution.
Why is it so important that the Biden Regime wants Israel to ceasefire with Hamas, yet this same regime has hindered any ceasefire talks between Russia and Ukraine.
Ok, now you're asking me to defend the idiotic policies of the Biden Regime. I think Israel would be foolish to seek a ceasefire with Hamas just as I think it foolish for Ukraine to cede to Russia.
You say Ukraine is not a dictatorship, yet Zelenskyy has cancelled elections,
Sorry, no. When Russia invaded he invoked Martial Law per the Ukraine constitution. It would last only 90 days unless renewed by Ukraine's parliament. And the parliament has been renewing it, not Zelensky. Their constitution is what dictates (not Zelensky) that elections be suspended during martial law. So legally Zelensky is not responsible for cancelling elections.
shut down media critical of him, closed churches, outlawed opposition political parties, has jailed political opposition and conscripts men into his military by dragging them out of their houses and businesses against their will. Yep, seems he sure loves democracy ::)
I believe all of these are allowed by their constitution while under martial law. Not excusable, but their parliament can undo that authority at any time. Compare to our democracy during the American civil war: Lincoln declared martial law in all states and ordered the suspension of the constitutionally protected right to writs of habeas corpus in the state of Maryland and parts of the Midwestern states. As a result 13,000 civilians were arrested by the military and held indefinitely during the course of the war. Free speech was suppressed.
So because the actions you cite occur during war wherein the leaders are granted broad powers that they don't have in peacetime doesn't per se make them undemocratic or unworthy of support.
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China and Russia appear to be the only powers on the planet that pose any credible military threat to the US. The southern border presents a lower priority threat.
Totally disagree! The hot war threat from China and Russia is dormant. They aren’t actively invading us. And their nuclear capabilities, along with ours, make them a theoretical future threat more than an immediate actual one because of mutual assured destruction. Yes it could happen but odds that it will on any one day are very low.
The invasion on the southern border on the other hand is currently active, it’s already happening and there are known terrorists and criminals among them entering the country that have no such restraints as MAD. The likelihood that they are planning a set of multiple 9/11s is very high.
"Military aged" is a meaningless scare phrase. That cadre has been entering the US for work since the Mexican Revolution.
Not by the millions. Not even close! And historically they’ve all been Mexicans. Hard working Catholics for the most part. Now they are from all over the world including radical Muslims and Chinese on an unknown mission. Erosion of our culture including our form of government can very easily happen from within with this massive invasion. This is a much bigger immediate threat than missiles from Russia or China.
I am for immigration. We need young men. But we must vet them and they must come legally.
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I’m on an iPhone a thousand miles from home, so it’s not easy to answer Jim’s post point by point.
Once again, Jim doesn’t have much knowledge in the areas he addressed. He’s an Ukraine and Zelenskyy fan boy, and any and all the US can keep dumping into that shithole is A-OK by him, screw everyone.
Ukraine doesn’t have the troops to maintain this war. That’s delusional to think they can hold back the Russian Army. Jim doesn’t understand a war of attrition. Sooner than later Dictator Zelenskyy will need fresh meat to send to the meat grinder. And that’s exactly what it is.
Sending billions to a third world dictator with no accountability (Obviously Jim ignores the various senators and congressmen who have been stonewalled by the Biden Regime on accounting for these funds. He also has missed stories of the Pentagon unable to account for funds as well. Doesn’t fit his narrative)
Border security is in the constitution. Jim ignores that.
Justifying Zelenskyy’s totalitarian rule is, well, the exact same thing the Democrat party is doing. Love them a dictator!
Rush gave a good reply above. Jim is happy in SD because the illegal invaders haven’t reached his little paradise, and like a good progressive he’s ok with the government letting in unvetted people with questionable backgrounds. As long as it’s not his state, right Jim?
We can lay the Ukraine Cluster Fuck right where it belongs, at the feet of BHO and FJB. They stoked it, and now it’s out of control. Democrats love creating a mess then want someone else to clean it up, and oh, let someone else pay for it as long as they can make money off of it. “Never let a crisis go to waste”.
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The southern border invasion is a much more immediate and credible threat than China or Russia. I agree with Rush and Lucifer. If that's not stopped, soon, and it won't be, we're toast as a country.
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Maybe Jim can explain to us how these "military aged men" have all been vetted and are not coming here for any nefarious purpose.
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Maybe Jim can explain to us how these "military aged men" have all been vetted and are not coming here for any nefarious purpose.
They don't need to be. They are all just hard working men looking for a better life and they want to embrace the American way of life.
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It's amazing how many of these farm labor migrants are Chinese and African. Clearly coming to our country to pick fruit.
If they are so eager to work hard for a better life, why not do that in their own country? Why travel thousands of miles to pick fruit here? Can't possibly be the five-star hotels, free food, free phones, free money, and all that is given in the "sanctuary cities". Which are cutting their police force and aid to residents to help out these poor migrant fruit pickers.
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It's amazing how many of these farm labor migrants are Chinese and African. Clearly coming to our country to pick fruit.
If they are so eager to work hard for a better life, why not do that in their own country? Why travel thousands of miles to pick fruit here? Can't possibly be the five-star hotels, free food, free phones, free money, and all that is given in the "sanctuary cities". Which are cutting their police force and aid to residents to help out these poor migrant fruit pickers.
FTFY
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FTFY
What, couldn't you hear the tone of my voice? :)
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Let's say 99% of illegals are just looking for a better life, are good people, want a job, and will end up paying taxes and eventually assimilating.
And let's say 1% are criminal psychopaths, which is the actual estimate in the general population. Assume for the sake of argument that the rate of psychopathy among illegals is no higher than that among U.S. citizens.
Almost 7.3 million illegals crossed the border just during the Biden administration, as of February, 2024.
7,300,000 x .01 = 73,000.
So we have 73,000 newly arrived criminally inclined psychopaths just in the past 3 years.
So the argument that illegals are simply looking to escape poverty and be accepted with open arms is technically correct 99% of the time, but doesn't hold water if you are trying to defend the idea that we should just let them all in. A process of vetting would weed out those with a violent criminal history, ties to terrorist organizations, or no discernible job skills meaning they'd just be a parasite. Without control over who enters our country, we aren't a country; no point in even having borders.
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I'm terribly afraid that we will become what I see on House Hunters International from time to time. A fairly nice house with a tall cinder block wall topped with glass shards and razor wire. Lots of houses with steel bars over the doors and windows.
I'm sure that it's racist to try to defend yourself.
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Let's say 99% of illegals are just looking for a better life, are good people, want a job, and will end up paying taxes and eventually assimilating.
And let's say 1% are criminal psychopaths, which is the actual estimate in the general population. Assume for the sake of argument that the rate of psychopathy among illegals is no higher than that among U.S. citizens.
Almost 7.3 million illegals crossed the border just during the Biden administration, as of February, 2024.
7,300,000 x .01 = 73,000.
So we have 73,000 newly arrived criminally inclined psychopaths just in the past 3 years.
So the argument that illegals are simply looking to escape poverty and be accepted with open arms is technically correct 99% of the time, but doesn't hold water if you are trying to defend the idea that we should just let them all in. A process of vetting would weed out those with a violent criminal history, ties to terrorist organizations, or no discernible job skills meaning they'd just be a parasite. Without control over who enters our country, we aren't a country; no point in even having borders.
I also like to point out the hypocrisy of the left when it comes to illegal aliens vs gun control.
They say that illegals are "mostly peaceful" and looking for work to improve their lives. Only a few of them are criminals. You shouldn't punish the majority because of a small minority.
But when it comes to gun control, even though most gun owners are law abiding and peaceful, the left wants to take guns away from everyone because a few are criminally inclined or mentally ill.
The only difference is that gun ownership is constitutionally protected and legal but illegally entering the country is not.
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/04/rep-chip-roy-reveals-only/
Rep. Chip Roy Reveals ONLY $47 Billion of the $113 Billion in Ukraine Funding Went to Lethal Aid – What Was the Other $66 Billion Used For?
But I want everybody out there in the audience to remember, the $113 billion. I want to repeat, the $113 billion that’s already been appropriated for Ukraine – Only $44 to $47 billion of that, two different reports I’ve seen, is lethal aid. So what was the other $66 to $69 billion dollars for? If they had held that back and used it responsibly, then maybe they’d still have money to come over and try to buy the stuff they need. I don’t want to get into the details in terms of classified stuff, but the stuff that they need to continue to fight.
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/04/rep-chip-roy-reveals-only/
Rep. Chip Roy Reveals ONLY $47 Billion of the $113 Billion in Ukraine Funding Went to Lethal Aid – What Was the Other $66 Billion Used For?
I love that term, "Lethal Aid". That so sounds like it means whatever you're sending them will kill them.
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The invasion on the southern border on the other hand is currently active, it’s already happening and there are known terrorists and criminals among them entering the country that have no such restraints as MAD. The likelihood that they are planning a set of multiple 9/11s is very high.
Would the following proposed bill seal the southern border to your satisfaction? I've linked to shorter summaries first since nobody wants to wade through 280 pages.
Border Security Policy Proposal - The Current System: Catch & Release; The New System: Detain & Deport (link to 3 page summary of Border Act) (https://www.lankford.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/FINAL-GENERAL-ONE-PAGER.pdf)
The Border Act (link to summary of each section of the act, 25 pages) (https://www.lankford.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/Section-by-Section_Final.pdf)
The Border Act (link to the act itself, 280 pages) (https://www.lankford.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/MCC24166.pdf)
Not by the millions. Not even close! And historically they’ve all been Mexicans. Hard working Catholics for the most part. Now they are from all over the world including radical Muslims and Chinese on an unknown mission. Erosion of our culture including our form of government can very easily happen from within with this massive invasion. This is a much bigger immediate threat than missiles from Russia or China.
I am for immigration. We need young men. But we must vet them and they must come legally.
What is your source of information? All the demographics on illegal immigrants (that are caught) are collected and published by the government. It is likely that everyone relies on that source - if it is not believed then no valid source of statistics exists to support argument of any sort. That said, I found the following site has collected the government info into helpful graphs:
https://usafacts.org/articles/what-can-the-data-tell-us-about-unauthorized-immigration/ (https://usafacts.org/articles/what-can-the-data-tell-us-about-unauthorized-immigration/)
If you scroll down you'll find various charts showing the demographics by country of origin and a graph where you can select a country and observe the changes in illegal entries. For example, illegal immigrants from Ukraine shot up within a month of the Russian invasion. India is the biggest source of illegals from outside the Americas. I notice that illegals from India and China have both increased in the last two years. Could be more people are wanting to escape authoritarian China. Their economy is hurting too. But Biden's loose illegal immigration policies would explain increases in both Indian and Chinese illegals.
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Would the following proposed bill seal the southern border to your satisfaction? I've linked to shorter summaries first since nobody wants to wade through 280 pages.
Partly. I didn’t even read 25 pages but tried to make it through the first one. Correct me if I’m wrong but I didn’t see where the actual military is deployed along the borders (Canada must be hardened now too). And I didn’t see where they address the organized cooperation between Central American countries and their gangs to support the flow north and through Mexico. They must stop accepting undocumented transits through their countries.
But most of all a proposed bill is useless until it is deployed. I have no faith anything like that will happen. It seems only Trump cares about fixing this.
What is your source of information?
Fox News, some other website with charts and graphs, and various other news sources and podcasts including Jordan Peterson interviewing someone who visited illegal refugee camps and interviewed the illegals. Sorry I didn’t include links, I can only put so much time into social media.
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I also like to point out the hypocrisy of the left when it comes to illegal aliens vs gun control.
They say that illegals are "mostly peaceful" and looking for work to improve their lives. Only a few of them are criminals. You shouldn't punish the majority because of a small minority.
But when it comes to gun control, even though most gun owners are law abiding and peaceful, the left wants to take guns away from everyone because a few are criminally inclined or mentally ill.
The only difference is that gun ownership is constitutionally protected and legal but illegally entering the country is not.
Spot on. At the core of all Leftists are dishonesty and hypocrisy in everything. Man made climate change, Covid, guns, abortion, taxes....everything !
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Spot on. At the core of all Leftists are dishonesty and hypocrisy in everything. Man made climate change, Covid, guns, abortion, taxes....everything !
The biggest most obvious, blatant, outright and deliberate hypocrisy is the need to prevent the people from voting for who they want, in order to “save democracy”.
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The biggest most obvious, blatant, outright and deliberate hypocrisy is the need to prevent the people from voting for who they want, in order to “save democracy”.
Replace the word democracy with the words "the state" and it makes sense.
The lunatic left loves totalitarians, dictators and now communism. It's all about power and control. Watch as they recoil if someone mentions American Greatness, Patriotism or even Freedom.
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Replace the word democracy with the words "the state" and it makes sense.
The lunatic left loves totalitarians, dictators and now communism. It's all about power and control. Watch as they recoil if someone mentions American Greatness, Patriotism or even Freedom.
Exactly.
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The biggest most obvious, blatant, outright and deliberate hypocrisy is the need to prevent the people from voting for who they want, in order to “save democracy”.
They are criminals. Lying scum, all. They need to be stopped with extreme prejudice.
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Replace the word democracy with the words "the state" and it makes sense.
The lunatic left loves totalitarians, dictators and now communism. It's all about power and control. Watch as they recoil if someone mentions American Greatness, Patriotism or even Freedom.
Call it what it is, which is treason and it will be time to start public hangings of those responsible.
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Partly. I didn’t even read 25 pages but tried to make it through the first one. Correct me if I’m wrong but I didn’t see where the actual military is deployed along the borders (Canada must be hardened now too).
National guards from several states are already being used. Using US Army troops would likely require modifying the Posse Comitatus Act. Using the military to enforce civilian laws ended in abuses that made that Act necessary, so I don't think many people want to go there.
And I didn’t see where they address the organized cooperation between Central American countries and their gangs to support the flow north and through Mexico. They must stop accepting undocumented transits through their countries.
I'm not sure how any US legislation can address the internal policies of other countries. Not without getting really really complicated.
But most of all a proposed bill is useless until it is deployed. I have no faith anything like that will happen. It seems only Trump cares about fixing this.
The bill was negotiated and written by Sen. James Lankford at the request of Sen. McConnell. You can check the record yourself, but Lankford is as red as they come. According to Lankford:
"I had a popular commentator, four weeks ago that I talked to, that told me flat out... if you try to move a bill that solves the border crisis during this presidential year, I will do whatever I can to destroy you," Lankford said on the Senate floor Wednesday. "By the way, they have been faithful to their promise."
You may consider solving the border crisis as higher priority than sending aid to other countries, but Trump needs a chaotic border he can pin on Biden. To that end Trump has posted:
"Also, I have no doubt that our wonderful Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, will only make a deal that is PERFECT ON THE BORDER."
Requiring "perfect" is enough to keep the problem alive till after the election. Much as I prefer Trump over Biden that political grandstanding means you were never going to see any resolution till after the election.
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You can check the record yourself, but Lankford is as red as they come.
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia1.tenor.com%2Fimages%2F44c6915876e19db4bb6c6412825bd4c9%2Ftenor.gif%3Fitemid%3D11751297&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=358bf0b92515843dd73aaef53092674352e259b634fc6fb87bce54a8da814941&ipo=images)
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Jim can’t see that he proves the very opposite of the thing he claims to support.
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National guards from several states are already being used. Using US Army troops would likely require modifying the Posse Comitatus Act.
Then modify it. The intent was not to use them against American civilians; it was never intended to hinder national defense in the event of an invasion.
I'm not sure how any US legislation can address the internal policies of other countries.
Not legislation. Diplomatic pressure. Good Lord.
Not without getting really really complicated.The bill was negotiated and written by Sen. James Lankford at the request of Sen. McConnell. You can check the record yourself, but Lankford is as red as they come. According to Lankford:
"I had a popular commentator, four weeks ago that I talked to, that told me flat out... if you try to move a bill that solves the border crisis during this presidential year, I will do whatever I can to destroy you," Lankford said on the Senate floor Wednesday. "By the way, they have been faithful to their promise."
You may consider solving the border crisis as higher priority than sending aid to other countries, but Trump needs a chaotic border he can pin on Biden. To that end Trump has posted:
"Also, I have no doubt that our wonderful Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, will only make a deal that is PERFECT ON THE BORDER."
Requiring "perfect" is enough to keep the problem alive till after the election. Much as I prefer Trump over Biden that political grandstanding means you were never going to see any resolution till after the election.
Are you seriously trying to blame Trump for this?!
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On January 6, 2021 Lankford was in the middle of a speech opposing the certification of Biden's election when he was interrupted by a staffer asking everyone to evacuate.
His voting record and his bio are publicly available. People can research these things themselves.
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On January 6, 2021 Lankford was in the middle of a speech opposing the certification of Biden's election when he was interrupted by a staffer asking everyone to evacuate.
His voting record and his bio are publicly available. People can research these things themselves.
The guys a RINO. But to a liberal, a RINO is a “red” Republican. ::)
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Then modify it. The intent was not to use them against American civilians; it was never intended to hinder national defense in the event of an invasion.
US military are already being used at the border in a number of ways, but can't exercise police powers. The proposed bill would simply have paid for more border police. I can't think of anything more dangerous than granting the military police powers within our borders.
Not legislation. Diplomatic pressure. Good Lord.
It's been tried with only limited success. Trump openly used the threat of tariffs to get central American countries to help slow the tide. Biden eventually used some undisclosed "negotiation" to get similar help from the same countries.
Are you seriously trying to blame Trump for this?!
I only know what has been claimed:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/04/19/sen_lankford_on_immigration_bill_president_trump_said_dont_fix_anything_during_the_presidential_election.html (https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/04/19/sen_lankford_on_immigration_bill_president_trump_said_dont_fix_anything_during_the_presidential_election.html)
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US military are already being used at the border in a number of ways, but can't exercise police powers. The proposed bill would simply have paid for more border police. I can't think of anything more dangerous than granting the military police powers within our borders.
Can you see the difference between the military lined up at the border pointing guns outward toward illegal invaders and the military going around the U.S. interior pointing guns at U.S. citizens?
It's been tried with only limited success. Trump openly used the threat of tariffs to get central American countries to help slow the tide. Biden eventually used some undisclosed "negotiation" to get similar help from the same countries.
Exactly! It works. But you need the strength of personality that Trump has for it to work. Whatever “undisclosed” thing Biden did obviously isn’t working.
I only know what has been claimed:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/04/19/sen_lankford_on_immigration_bill_president_trump_said_dont_fix_anything_during_the_presidential_election.html (https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/04/19/sen_lankford_on_immigration_bill_president_trump_said_dont_fix_anything_during_the_presidential_election.html)
I don’t believe for a second Trump meant that if he said it. I can believe some Republicans twisting what he said into meaning don’t fix the border because it will help us win. I can also believe Trump saying something dripping with sarcasm.
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What proof do we have that Biden has done anything trying to stop the inflow of illegals ("newcomers"). It's already been showing that he's flown them here from other countries. When you are desperate to create new Democrats you'll do whatever it takes since you know nobody can stop you.
The Congress is split down the middle and the Democrats know they can always rely on a percentage of Republicans voting with them so they can accomplish whatever they want legislatively. We've watched the Senate wrest away the power of the purse from the House already. When are we going to face the fact that all is lost. There will be zero attempt to rein in spending at this point. Getting Trump elected won't stop that unless he suddenly grows a bigger pair and learn how to veto stuff.
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Even if a President Trump vetoed, there are enough RINO's to defeat the veto.
We need a wholesale firing of congress and the senate with replacements.
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Agree with the last 2 posts. All Trump can do is try to slow the race to the cliff’s edge but we’re going over regardless. Too much momentum to stop completely.
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The most dangerous things are already happening in this country. A foreign invasion of hostile and potentially hostile people. Destruction of the economy in the name of climate change and large scale government and corporate corruption.
I'd rather face my own military that maybe could be reasoned with than the above.
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(https://i.imgur.com/x5uBal2.jpg)
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https://www.president.gov.ua/en/news/u-chervni-mozhe-pochatisya-shlyah-do-spravedlivogo-miru-zver-90605
Also, our teams, Ukraine and the United States, are currently working on a bilateral security agreement, and we are already working on a specific text. Our goal is to make this agreement the strongest of all. We are discussing the specific foundations of our security and cooperation. We are also working on fixing specific levels of support for this year and for the next ten years, including armed support, financial, political, and joint arms production. The agreement should be truly exemplary and reflect the strength of American leadership. I am grateful to both our team and the team of the American side for the progress in drafting the agreement.
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https://www.president.gov.ua/en/news/u-chervni-mozhe-pochatisya-shlyah-do-spravedlivogo-miru-zver-90605
INSANE.
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It all became clear when the latest billions of dollars was to "slow the Russian advance". Like two weeks to slow the spread of covid. It won't win the war. It will allow it to go on and on and on.
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Tucker is the consummate propagandist - he, like Lucifer, can walk right past and otherwise ignore anything that doesn't lead his audience to the beliefs he intends. (The video doesn't support the broad claim in the video's banner image - but great way to rile people up!)
Consider that this is the same Bob Amsterdam writing with equal confidence about Trump and Russia's hold over him just several years ago (and whose first statement in the video is, contrary to Tucker's goal, "I supported the bill because it is the parishioners of our church who are on the front line right now and could use all the help they can get."):
Robert Amsterdam, a lawyer at international law firm Amsterdam & Partners with considerable experience in Russian affairs, told The Independent there was “no question” that US intelligence agencies and the FBI had information about Trump’s financial dealings with Russian entities prior to the 2016 US election.
“Trump’s relationship with Russia goes back many, many years. I’m sure the FBI was monitoring it,” he said.
Two parallel investigations into alleged ties between Trump associates and Russia during the 2016 presidential election as well as Russia’s alleged tampering with the election are being conducted in Congress at the moment.
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Mr Amsterdam said one possible explanation is “that the FBI has an informer who was once part of the Trump organisation” and that information was not released in order to protect that source.
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Source: https://archive.ph/20210528204149/https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/richard-dearlove-mi6-trump-russia-money-2008-financial-crisis-us-election-a7684341.html (https://archive.ph/20210528204149/https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/richard-dearlove-mi6-trump-russia-money-2008-financial-crisis-us-election-a7684341.html)
In the video he claims the Ukrainian secret police is still heavily infiltrated by Russians. Um, if that was the case wouldn't they be using their fifth column on something more useful to Russia than harassing a Christian church? That claim really undermines his credibility regarding the scope and severity of his claims. The harassment isn't in doubt, since the religious clashes appear to predate the 2022 Russian invasion.
He is representing the Ukrainian Orthodox Church (UOC), which had been a diocese of the Moscow Patriarchate, headed by Patriarch Kirill. Since the 1990s Kirill has been the main proponent of a ban on Jehovah's Witnesses in Russia, among other dubious holdings. Since 2014 he has been a big supporter of the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Allegedly a former employee of the KGB. Not surprising, then, that Ukrainians would harass members of UOC, often unfairly.
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Gee Jim, maybe you can get Tucker cancelled, or better yet, demand the various outlets ban him from putting up content?
The left sure loves them some dictators, especially when they dress up in military garb.
It's amusing watching leftist get triggered when someone pierces the veil of the propaganda machine and reveals the truth.
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(https://i.imgur.com/meBLPqR.jpg)
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https://www.cbsnews.com/video/bars-and-clubs-are-full-in-ukraine-despite-the-ongoing-war-with-russia/
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https://www.cbsnews.com/video/bars-and-clubs-are-full-in-ukraine-despite-the-ongoing-war-with-russia/
I think I have been getting emails from some of those girls at those bars!
If I lived in Ukraine, I would be drinking too.
How much beer can you buy with a couple $billion?
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How much beer can you buy with a couple $billion?
Apparently a lot.
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The democrat reply is always the same, though unspoken. What is the "fair share" that you want millionaires to pay in taxes? All of it. How much do you need to send to Ukraine to win the war? All of it. And even then it's not enough.
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The democrat reply is always the same, though unspoken. What is the "fair share" that you want millionaires to pay in taxes? All of it. How much do you need to send to Ukraine to win the war? All of it. And even then it's not enough.
Ukraine is a giant money laundering scam. The low information types are duped into believing this money will "help them defeat Russia" which is laughable at best. Meanwhile the little Ukrainian dictator is lining his pockets and his regime's pockets with borrowed money we give them and the taxpayer has to pay back with interest.
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More of our money down the drain.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/united-states-expected-announce-400-144454414.html
The U.S. is expected to announce a new $400 million package of military aid for Ukraine on Friday, U.S. officials said, as Kyiv struggles to hold off advances by Russian troops in the northeast Kharkiv region.
This is the third tranche of aid for Ukraine since Congress passed supplemental funding in late April after months of gridlock. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy had warned Thursday that his country was facing “a really difficult situation” in the east, but said a new supply of U.S. weapons was coming and “we will be able to stop them.”
According to officials, the package includes artillery, air defense and anti-tank munitions, armored vehicles and other weapons and equipment. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because the aid has not yet been announced. It will be provided through presidential drawdown authority, which pulls systems and munitions from existing U.S. stockpiles so they can be sent quickly to the war front.
Almost immediately after President Joe Biden signed the $95 billion foreign aid package, the Pentagon announced it was sending $1 billion in weapons through that drawdown authority,. And just days later the Biden administration announced a $6 billion package funded through the Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative, which pays for longer-term contracts with the defense industry and means that the weapons could take many months or years to arrive.
Russia has sought to exploit Ukraine’s shortages of ammunition and manpower as the flow of Western supplies since the outbreak of the war petered out while Congress struggled to pass the bill. Moscow has assembled large troop concentrations in the east as well as in the north and has been gaining an edge on the battlefield, Zelenskyy said.
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Such a joy to see our criminal regime insuring the continuation of permanent war, while our scumbag SOS is distracted saving jack (ass) smith from being indicted for evidence suppression, and perjury.
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Such a joy to see our criminal regime insuring the continuation of permanent war, while our scumbag SOS is distracted saving jack (ass) smith from being indicted for evidence suppression, and perjury.
I'm tired of endless proxy wars with the Sovet Union.
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I'm tired of endless proxy wars with the Sovet Union.
Agreed. The simple solution is for Russia (and soon China) to stop getting them started. But once started, what are we supposed to do? Appeasement doesn't seem to work: Let's give them Ukraine and then they'll stop. Let's give them Taiwan and then they'll stop. Honestly, I don't know the solution.
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Agreed. The simple solution is for Russia (and soon China) to stop getting them started. But once started, what are we supposed to do? Appeasement doesn't seem to work: Let's give them Ukraine and then they'll stop. Let's give them Taiwan and then they'll stop. Honestly, I don't know the solution.
Putin and I think Bush 2.0 were on the way to an alliance when GW went back home and was talked out of it by... whom??? We don't really know. We were already cooperating together on space projects. There is no reason since the breakup of the Soviet Union we can't be friends with Russia. It would mean the likes of NK, China and Iran would be non-issues. We have our differences with Russia but nothing that can't be overlooked given the benefits of the two greatest superpowers on the planet allied against threats such as Islamoterrorists and totalitarian commie regimes. Sure Russia is now a fascist plutocracy but at this point, the U.S. pretty much is too. After all, who were the people that talked GW out of making friends with our former adversary again?
That rebuff pushed Russia toward China and Iran. It's almost like somebody WANTS there to be endless proxy wars between the two biggest superpowers. While China looks for an opportunity to take over Taiwan, Iran gleefully uses the money Biden gave them to fund terrorists attacking Israel (our biggest ally in the MidEast) and "Death to America" protesters all over the world, and North Korea is back to testing nukes.
Good going, whoever the hell you are.
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Agreed. The simple solution is for Russia (and soon China) to stop getting them started. But once started, what are we supposed to do? Appeasement doesn't seem to work: Let's give them Ukraine and then they'll stop. Let's give them Taiwan and then they'll stop. Honestly, I don't know the solution.
The solution is easy. Stop trying to be the world police and the world supplier of free money. Stop meddling in other countries politics. Stop trying "regime change" as a policy.
Also show strength in the world, not weakness. If we do go in to a conflict, go in with brute force and a plan to win. And don't rebuild the mess.
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It's almost like somebody WANTS there to be endless proxy wars between the two biggest superpowers.
The US Military Industrial Complex, war is big business. Buy enough DC career politicians and make an alliance with the numerous US Intel Agencies and it produces an unending income stream.
Now we are watching the Ukraine Clusterfuck which is in reality a huge money laundering scheme.
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Ukraine should be spelled Vietnam II
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Agreed. The simple solution is for Russia (and soon China) to stop getting them started. But once started, what are we supposed to do? Appeasement doesn't seem to work: Let's give them Ukraine and then they'll stop. Let's give them Taiwan and then they'll stop. Honestly, I don't know the solution.
The solution is to be strong like Trump was and let the enemy also think you're a little crazy and reckless enough that they don't feel emboldened to start this crap.
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https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1790423035129815432/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1790423035129815432¤tTweetUser=MyLordBebo
https://twitter.com/mylordbebo/status/1790423035129815432?s=46
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I notice Blinken seems to run Ukraine now.
https://x.com/wendyp4545/status/1790496231149518870