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Title: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on October 19, 2018, 07:47:00 AM
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A former Hillary Clinton campaign staffer raised eyebrows throughout the Democratic Party this week; suggesting the former Secretary of State may be mulling a potential rematch against President Trump in the 2020 race for the White House.
https://www.hannity.com/media-room/a-third-time-top-clinton-aide-says-hillary-may-run-in-2020/
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on October 19, 2018, 07:47:48 AM
Maybe we'll see what kind of balls the DNC has.  ::)
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Anthony on October 19, 2018, 07:48:56 AM
You know the DNC has to be just beside themselves.  They want NOTHING to do with Hillary, and her Chardonnay induced, public rants. 
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Rush on October 19, 2018, 08:47:46 AM
I wouldn't be at all surprised if Hillary is considering running again.  It's been her lifelong dream.  But that's a far cry from winning, or having the Democrat party go for it. On the other hand, maybe she still has enough supporters to maneuver her way into winning a primary and maybe the Democrats are too stupid to learn from 2016.

With all the walkaways, and an incumbent's chances of winning a second term if the economy is doing well, I would think she wouldn't stand a chance.  It's a fantasy of hers she can't give up. She has no other legacy. She HAS to be first woman President or all the sleazy manipulations she's done all her life will amount to nothing.

I wouldn't be surprised if she considers running every four years for the rest of her life.  What's the alternative? What else is she gonna do? Does she have a happy private life to retire to? I think not.
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: SkyDog58 on October 19, 2018, 09:03:11 AM
You know the DNC has to be just beside themselves.  They want NOTHING to do with Hillary, and her Chardonnay induced, public rants.

She drank chardonnay.  She still drinks chardonnay.   She likes chardonnay. 
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Lucifer on October 19, 2018, 09:04:41 AM
Felonious Von Pantsuits is the gift that keeps giving.
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: SkyDog58 on October 19, 2018, 09:09:28 AM
Supposedly Biden is thinking of running as well.  Of course, if he had run in 2016, he probably would have won as most people do not find him as distasteful as they do Hillary or Trump.  It wouldn't quite be the same level of lesser of two evils as it was.  But it would be nice to see some new blood run on the Democratic side and also to see a more reasonable mind run for the nomination on the GOP side against Trump. 
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Lucifer on October 19, 2018, 09:13:08 AM
Supposedly Biden is thinking of running as well.  Of course, if he had run in 2016, he probably would have won as most people do not find him as distasteful as they do Hillary or Trump.  It wouldn't quite be the same level of lesser of two evils as it was.  But it would be nice to see some new blood run on the Democratic side and also to see a more reasonable mind run for the nomination on the GOP side against Trump.

 Biden would have a difficult time in a general election.  There are so many of his gafs, not to mention video after video of him groping women.

 Add to that he'll be 78 if he were to win.  His time has come and gone.

 The democrats need to take back their party and rid themselves of the progressives (communist).  They need to find a moderate that will appeal to the center, preferably someone from the flyover country and not a coastal elite.
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Lucifer on October 19, 2018, 09:22:14 AM
Felonious would have to find donors to support yet another run.  There is no way her and Bill would put up their own money.   

Felonious has lost a lot of donor money with her two previous failed attempts.  With her dis-likable persona and the baggage of her rapist husband I just can't see anyone, except for the alt left progressives putting that sort of cash out again.
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: nddons on October 19, 2018, 09:40:39 AM
I wouldn't be at all surprised if Hillary is considering running again.  It's been her lifelong dream.  But that's a far cry from winning, or having the Democrat party go for it. On the other hand, maybe she still has enough supporters to maneuver her way into winning a primary and maybe the Democrats are too stupid to learn from 2016.

With all the walkaways, and an incumbent's chances of winning a second term if the economy is doing well, I would think she wouldn't stand a chance.  It's a fantasy of hers she can't give up. She has no other legacy. She HAS to be first woman President or all the sleazy manipulations she's done all her life will amount to nothing.

I wouldn't be surprised if she considers running every four years for the rest of her life.  What's the alternative? What else is she gonna do? Does she have a happy private life to retire to? I think not.

If she runs I think the electoral map on Election Day would look a lot like 1984, except with maybe CA and NY going blue.
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Rush on October 19, 2018, 09:41:20 AM
Felonious would have to find donors to support yet another run.  There is no way her and Bill would put up their own money.   

Felonious has lost a lot of donor money with her two previous failed attempts.  With her dis-likable persona and the baggage of her rapist husband I just can't see anyone, except for the alt left progressives putting that sort of cash out again.

Not to mention the whole email scandal. I know the Dems wave that off, but many American voters aren't. I don't know how many liberals and leftists I've seen rant about corrupt Hillary. It's one reason Trump won, a lot of them went third party.
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Lucifer on October 19, 2018, 09:44:55 AM
Not to mention the whole email scandal. I know the Dems wave that off, but many American voters aren't. I don't know how many liberals and leftists I've seen rant about corrupt Hillary. It's one reason Trump won, a lot of them went third party.

Felonious is damaged goods.  Combine all of her scandals, plus the revelations now coming out in the FBI/DoJ scandal and her involvement in the Trump Russia hoax.  Oh, and with the metoo movement the crimes of her husband and how she tried to shut out his accusers.  Then add in the previous two years of all of her inane ranting.

She's done.
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: asechrest on October 19, 2018, 10:26:38 AM
I'll turn into a right winger if the DNC runs Hillary again.
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on October 19, 2018, 11:11:39 AM
I'll turn into a right winger if the DNC runs Hillary again.
Seriously, if that’s your tipping point, why not just come on over to the right immediately? The Dems have shown their hand, and clearly it contains more unsavory cards than Her, with many yet to be played.

Our own PilotSpin WalkAway!
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Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Mr Pou on October 19, 2018, 11:14:17 AM
Felonious would have to find donors to support yet another run.  There is no way her and Bill would put up their own money.   

Felonious has lost a lot of donor money with her two previous failed attempts.  With her dis-likable persona and the baggage of her rapist husband I just can't see anyone, except for the alt left progressives putting that sort of cash out again.

George Soros to the white courtesy phone please, George Soros.........
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Lucifer on October 19, 2018, 11:15:09 AM
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Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Anthony on October 19, 2018, 11:16:08 AM
Felonious would have to find donors to support yet another run.  There is no way her and Bill would put up their own money.   

Felonious has lost a lot of donor money with her two previous failed attempts.  With her dis-likable persona and the baggage of her rapist husband I just can't see anyone, except for the alt left progressives putting that sort of cash out again.

I don't think they could crank up the Clinton Foundation Money Laundering machine again, and get all those $500K "donations" for speaking engagements, including ones from foreigners.  It was clearly to get influence from Hillary when she was Sec. of State, and then they all thought she'd be President.  Once she lost, it all dried up.  Surprise, surprise.  I don't think she could pull that off again. 
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Lucifer on October 19, 2018, 11:17:41 AM
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Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Lucifer on October 19, 2018, 11:23:21 AM
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Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: nddons on October 19, 2018, 12:51:12 PM
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The overwhelming thrill to see Hillary become the George McGovern of the 21st century is almost too much fun to bear.
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on October 19, 2018, 07:50:54 PM
I don't think they could crank up the Clinton Foundation Money Laundering machine again, and get all those $500K "donations" for speaking engagements, including ones from foreigners.  It was clearly to get influence from Hillary when she was Sec. of State, and then they all thought she'd be President.  Once she lost, it all dried up.  Surprise, surprise.  I don't think she could pull that off again.


You forget the upcoming Bill and Hillary, give us all your money, tour.
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Anthony on October 20, 2018, 03:44:15 AM

You forget the upcoming Bill and Hillary, gives us all your money, tour.

You're right.  I did.  Good point. 
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Lucifer on October 21, 2018, 06:35:32 AM

You forget the upcoming Bill and Hillary, give us all your money, tour.

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Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Anthony on October 21, 2018, 07:34:14 AM
Ugh.  I can't imagine what they will talk about on yet another tour.  Will Chelsea Hubble make a guest appearance?  I hope so, she is SO dynamic, and inspirational. 
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Lucifer on October 21, 2018, 02:15:21 PM
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2018/10/21/watch-hillarys-overly-scripted-late-show-interview-is-a-sad-attempt-at-relati-n2530505
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on October 21, 2018, 05:05:47 PM
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2018/10/21/watch-hillarys-overly-scripted-late-show-interview-is-a-sad-attempt-at-relati-n2530505 (https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2018/10/21/watch-hillarys-overly-scripted-late-show-interview-is-a-sad-attempt-at-relati-n2530505)
Absolutely nothing Hillary does is unscripted.
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Lucifer on October 21, 2018, 05:14:42 PM
Absolutely nothing Hillary does is unscripted.

 She's definitely floating the idea of a run.  Delusional.

 Of course, she will have to get control of the DNC (again) to rig the primaries (like before).  Then she will have to get donors, because there is no way in hell she and Bill will put up their own money.
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Anthony on October 21, 2018, 06:08:49 PM
"Why am I not fifty points ahead in the polls you may ask...…."

Said in that fake, phony, shrill Hillary voice.  So thankful she lost.  If she does run again it would only further anger, annoy, and devistate her, because the DNC won't fall for her BS again.  However, she is like one of those horror creatures that just won't die, and pops back up just when you think you're safe.   
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Lucifer on October 23, 2018, 09:00:40 AM
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Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Number7 on October 23, 2018, 08:22:39 PM
If the clinton crime syndicate start ramping up for 2020 because their party has zero actual contenders, the angst among democrat leadership will explode and cause some very interesting fallout.

I can see hilary's crooks killing people - I mean... I see all those amazing coincidences start all over again - like JFK Jr's plane magically crashing just days after people started to talk about him running for his dad's old seat, or political insiders shooting themselves in the head five times in desparet suicide attempts....
holding the gun in the wrong hand...
dragging their own dead body thru the woods to stage a perfect crime scene...

you know...

those things that just happen to follow that bitch around.
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: invflatspin on October 24, 2018, 06:52:35 AM
I don't know that side well, but as far as I see, they have no qualified people to lead a comeback over there. Booker might have given it a go until his last showing at the Ford hearing which was a political disaster. Sacajewarren also shot herself in the mouth with the idiotic DNA test 'proving' her heritage. Imagine what the RNC would do with those two.

They prolly have a governor somewhere who hasn't made a complete fool of themselves, which lets out CO Hickenlooper and CA Moonbeam. Two of the most unlikeable despotic people ever born.

They gotta run a candidate but the young turks aren't going to go to the mattresses for Biden or one of the other old crones. Schumer is angling for the job, and he might be the default guinea pig just because he's a name, and he still has a pulse. Whoever it is, will be in for a nasty ride.
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Anthony on October 24, 2018, 07:12:42 AM
If the clinton crime syndicate start ramping up for 2020 because their party has zero actual contenders, the angst among democrat leadership will explode and cause some very interesting fallout.

I can see hilary's crooks killing people - I mean... I see all those amazing coincidences start all over again - like JFK Jr's plane magically crashing just days after people started to talk about him running for his dad's old seat, or political insiders shooting themselves in the head five times in desparet suicide attempts....
holding the gun in the wrong hand...
dragging their own dead body thru the woods to stage a perfect crime scene...

you know...

those things that just happen to follow that bitch around.

I never thought of that angle.  I just thought Spatial Disorientation, but that makes sense.  JFK Jr would have won any seat he ran for. 
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on October 24, 2018, 07:21:34 AM
No way!

The Clintons are slime creatures (just this morning I read that a bomb has been found at their home ... right! ::) ... like someone would care enough to do that), but JFK Jr.’s crash is TEXTBOOK incompetence, so much so that his terrible decisions and accident chain are used in flight training as an example of how NOT to do it, for heavens sake!
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Lucifer on October 24, 2018, 07:24:55 AM
No way!

The Clintons are slime creatures (just this morning I read that a bomb has been found at their home ... right! ::) ... like someone would care enough to do that), but JFK Jr.’s crash is TEXTBOOK incompetence, so much so that his terrible decisions and accident chain are used in flight training as an example of how NOT to do it, for heavens sake!

 The recent "bomb" discoveries don't pass the smell test.

 This reeks of yet another alt left false flag, planting "explosive devices" in order to change the narrative away from the alt left mobs that are terrorizing people.
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: invflatspin on October 24, 2018, 08:16:45 AM
No way!

The Clintons are slime creatures (just this morning I read that a bomb has been found at their home ... right! ::) ... like someone would care enough to do that), but JFK Jr.’s crash is TEXTBOOK incompetence, so much so that his terrible decisions and accident chain are used in flight training as an example of how NOT to do it, for heavens sake!

Agreed. I was coming home from NorCal one night, flying over the Ventura area. The land turns east, as it goes around Malibu, and down into LA Basin. Sitting in a Citabria, I kept wanting to turn left and keep the coast line lights on my lubber line. It was one of the weirdest visual references that I ever had. Every time I looked at my T&B it showed me in a left turn, but I didn't know I was turning! Stuck with me for 10 min or more. I think the Kennedy's family were just cursed.
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Number7 on October 24, 2018, 12:40:25 PM
No way!

The Clintons are slime creatures (just this morning I read that a bomb has been found at their home ... right! ::) ... like someone would care enough to do that), but JFK Jr.’s crash is TEXTBOOK incompetence, so much so that his terrible decisions and accident chain are used in flight training as an example of how NOT to do it, for heavens sake!

What you know is what was released.

Since when does the government tell the unmitigated truth about anything political? JFK Jr would have crushed felonious in a primary race but he went and died just hours after people started to talk about it.

Maybe Mary Jo Kapeckni drove herself into the river, too.
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Lucifer on October 26, 2018, 07:22:05 AM
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Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Anthony on October 26, 2018, 01:51:42 PM
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Hillary is a LESBIAN.  She gets "laid" by Huma, and any other dyke leftist she wants. 
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Lucifer on October 26, 2018, 02:23:27 PM
Hillary is a LESBIAN.  She gets "laid" by Huma, and any other dyke leftist she wants.

Web Hubbell bedded her. And their daughter Chelsea is proof of that.
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Rush on October 26, 2018, 02:52:26 PM
Web Hubbell bedded her. And their daughter Chelsea is proof of that.

I'm sure she swung both ways. NTTAWWT.
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Anthony on October 26, 2018, 03:16:57 PM
Web Hubbell bedded her. And their daughter Chelsea is proof of that.

Ewwww.  That's a terrible thought.  Yet Chelsea does look like him.  Still.  Ewwww.
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Lucifer on October 28, 2018, 06:03:49 PM
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Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Lucifer on October 28, 2018, 06:05:57 PM
Bill Clinton was walking along the beach when he stumbled upon a Genie's lamp. He picked it up and rubbed it and lo-and-behold, a Genie appeared. Bill was amazed and asked if he got three wishes. The Genie said, "Nope...Due to inflation, constant downswing, low wages in third world countries, and fierce global competition, I can only grant you one wish. So...What will it be?" Bill didn't hesitate. He said, "I want to be remembered for bringing peace to the Middle East, instead of that other stuff with Monica, and Jennifer, and the rest of those women. See this map? I want these countries to stop fighting with each other." The Genie looked at the map of the Middle East and exclaimed, "Oh me, Fella! These people have been at war for thousands of years. I'm good, but not THAT good. I don't think it can be done. Make another wish."

 Bill thought for a minute and said, "You know, people really don't like my wife. Even though she got elected as Senator, they call her a carpetbagger. They think she's mean, ugly, and pushes me around. I wish for her to be the most beautiful woman in the world and I want everybody to like her. That's what I want."

The Genie let out a long sigh and said, "Lemme see that map again."
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: SkyDog58 on October 29, 2018, 03:25:26 AM
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Yep.  Not only did she believe it was her turn but practically the entire Dem establishment thought so as well.  That was a very large factor in the election.  If a more reasonable and palatable Democrat had ran against her for the nomination, that person would have most likely not only defeated her but would have also probably won the general election.  I believe the dem leadership learned their lesson and will not clear the field for her a second time.  I doubt if she’ll run again but if she does, I cannot fathom her winning the nomination. 
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Little Joe on October 29, 2018, 05:14:27 AM
Yep.  Not only did she believe it was her turn but practically the entire Dem establishment thought so as well.  That was a very large factor in the election.  If a more reasonable and palatable Democrat had ran against her for the nomination, that person would have most likely not only defeated her but would have also probably won the general election.  I believe the dem leadership learned their lesson and will not clear the field for her a second time.  I doubt if she’ll run again but if she does, I cannot fathom her winning the nomination.
If she runs against Trump again, I foresee a lot (more) blood in the streets.  It will make Chicago in 1968 look like Disneyland.
And divorce lawyers will get rich as more couples split up over politics.
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Lucifer on October 29, 2018, 05:50:55 AM
A few points to consider about another attempt of Felonious running again:

1) Money.  She will need lots of OPM (other people's money).  While she may have a few that will throw even more of their money away on her, there is not enough to mount a general election campaign.

2) Primaries.  As previously stated, if she can't rig the primaries (again) to her favor, she doesn't have a chance.  In 2016 if the "super delegates" were removed Bernie would have defeated her.

3) She won't go down in history as a three time loser. She's still delusional in thinking that she could defeat Trump, or for that matter, anyone running for president at this point.  She simply is not a likable person, has a crap personality and more than enough baggage to fill a few semi trucks.

4) The FBI/DoJ scandal.  Felonious is up to her neck in this one.  Not only did she collude with Russians and foreign agents, but now there is conclusive proof on how she was exonerated even though the evidence showed, without any doubt, she broke several laws with regards to her mishandling confidential documents.

5) In the past two years since her humiliating defeat, there is a treasure trove of video and sound bites of her often delusional and hate filled thoughts. Any opposition candidate would have a field day with that.

6) Bill.  Need I say more?
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Little Joe on October 29, 2018, 06:08:57 AM
A few points to consider about another attempt of Felonious running again:

1) Money.  She will need lots of OPM (other people's money).  While she may have a few that will throw even more of their money away on her, there is not enough to mount a general election campaign.

2) Primaries.  As previously stated, if she can't rig the primaries (again) to her favor, she doesn't have a chance.  In 2016 if the "super delegates" were removed Bernie would have defeated her.

3) She won't go down in history as a three time loser. She's still delusional in thinking that she could defeat Trump, or for that matter, anyone running for president at this point.  She simply is not a likable person, has a crap personality and more than enough baggage to fill a few semi trucks.

4) The FBI/DoJ scandal.  Felonious is up to her neck in this one.  Not only did she collude with Russians and foreign agents, but now there is conclusive proof on how she was exonerated even though the evidence showed, without any doubt, she broke several laws with regards to her mishandling confidential documents.

5) In the past two years since her humiliating defeat, there is a treasure trove of video and sound bites of her often delusional and hate filled thoughts. Any opposition candidate would have a field day with that.

6) Bill.  Need I say more?
But none of that maters.  All that matters is that liberals hate trump.  They think Trump STOLE the last election, and they have to take that away from him at ANY cost.

My biggest hope is that a lot of those people that got jobs in the past two years may just shed a bit of their "liberalness".  Of course though, many of them resent actually having to hold a job instead of collecting government checks.
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Rush on October 29, 2018, 06:25:27 AM
If she runs again I will vote in the Democrat primaries for Bernie Sanders.
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Lucifer on October 29, 2018, 06:34:50 AM
But none of that maters.  All that matters is that liberals hate trump.  They think Trump STOLE the last election, and they have to take that away from him at ANY cost.

My biggest hope is that a lot of those people that got jobs in the past two years may just shed a bit of their "liberalness".  Of course though, many of them resent actually having to hold a job instead of collecting government checks.

 True.  But the people that make the huge contributions won't throw money away on a loser, no matter how much they hate the opposition.  If the hatred is that bad, they want a winner.

 The dims have a lot of soul searching coming up.  So far their field of competitors is lackluster at best.  With the alt left progressives in control of their party there is a real chance the nomination fores to a coastal progressive elite and not to a moderate.

 It will take a moderate old school democrat from the flyover country to have a chance at defeating Trump in 2020. 
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Anthony on October 29, 2018, 06:37:06 AM
If she runs again I will vote in the Democrat primaries for Bernie Sanders.
Actually, I think Bernie would have a better chance at winning.  Hilllary is a proven LOSER, often says the wrong things, and has the personality of a mean dictator. 
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Lucifer on October 29, 2018, 06:39:18 AM
Actually, I think Bernie would have a better chance at winning.  Hilllary is a proven LOSER, often says the wrong things, and has the personality of a mean dictator.

Hillary has a personality??
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Anthony on October 29, 2018, 06:48:56 AM
Hillary has a personality??
Yes.  A BAD ONE. 
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Rush on October 29, 2018, 07:35:59 AM
Actually, I think Bernie would have a better chance at winning.  Hilllary is a proven LOSER, often says the wrong things, and has the personality of a mean dictator.

Neither would win against Trump.
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Anthony on October 29, 2018, 07:40:27 AM
Neither would win against Trump.

Agreed, but I think Bernie would have a better chance. 
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Rush on October 29, 2018, 08:32:17 AM
Agreed, but I think Bernie would have a better chance.

Nevertheless.  While I voted in the Republican primary solely on who I thought had the greatest chance to defeat Hillary (it was not Trump - I was wrong), at this point I'm so convinced of her corruption and unfitness to lead, I'd do everything (I could vote wise) to prevent any possibility of her being President.

I wonder if you are right though. They say the American people would never elect a socialist. I'm not sure anymore. Too many Americans are now so mal-educated they've no clue what socialism even is, and over four million of them turn 18 every year.
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Little Joe on October 29, 2018, 08:41:13 AM
Nevertheless.  While I voted in the Republican primary solely on who I thought had the greatest chance to defeat Hillary (it was not Trump - I was wrong), at this point I'm so convinced of her corruption and unfitness to lead, I'd do everything (I could vote wise) to prevent any possibility of her being President.

I wonder if you are right though. They say the American people would never elect a socialist. I'm not sure anymore. Too many Americans are now so mal-educated they've no clue what socialism even is, and over four million of them turn 18 every year.
Liberals I know used to get defensive and argumentative when I called them "Socialist".
Now, when I use the word, they say "what's wrong with that"?

It's a different world and I don't know where this is leading.  I'm just glad I'm old.
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on October 29, 2018, 09:12:58 AM
Nevertheless.  While I voted in the Republican primary solely on who I thought had the greatest chance to defeat Hillary (it was not Trump - I was wrong), at this point I'm so convinced of her corruption and unfitness to lead, I'd do everything (I could vote wise) to prevent any possibility of her being President.

I wonder if you are right though. They say the American people would never elect a socialist. I'm not sure anymore. Too many Americans are now so mal-educated they've no clue what socialism even is, and over four million of them turn 18 every year.
Not mal-educated, educated by the left as they would have them educated.
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: SkyDog58 on October 29, 2018, 09:27:28 AM
  It will take a moderate old school democrat from the flyover country to have a chance at defeating Trump in 2020.

True and I think that is probably their best hope.  But I think that even if a good one did run, that the dem powerbrokers and the super delegates that you mentioned wouldn’t allow that person to win. 
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Little Joe on October 29, 2018, 09:32:09 AM
EIGHT MORE DAYS!

I don't know whether I should look forward to this, or just crawl in a hole and close my eyes.  And this is nothing compared to what is in store in 2020.
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Lucifer on October 29, 2018, 09:54:49 AM
True and I think that is probably their best hope.  But I think that even if a good one did run, that the dem powerbrokers and the super delegates that you mentioned wouldn’t allow that person to win.

 Super delegates are no more.  That was an attempt by Felonious to secure the nomination no matter the actual vote count.

 The power brokers are all alt left types, and they have firm control over the DNC, so yes, in essence they control the outcome.
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Little Joe on October 29, 2018, 10:04:24 AM
Super delegates are no more.  That was an attempt by Felonious to secure the nomination no matter the actual vote count.

 The power brokers are all alt left types, and they have firm control over the DNC, so yes, in essence they control the outcome.
She hated the Electoral College (after she lost), but she was just fine with the Super Delegates (having won the D nomination).  I wonder why that is?
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Anthony on October 29, 2018, 10:15:33 AM
She hated the Electoral College (after she lost), but she was just fine with the Super Delegates (having won the D nomination).  I wonder why that is?
Because she is a huge, self serving, elitist hypocrite that will do, and say anything to attain power.  She is tortured every minute of every day at the thought of her losing to Trump, and never becoming the first woman President.  She ADMITEDLY has to drink in order to get a brief respite from it.  I guarantee it is approaching a form of madness within her.  She could be the subject of a Kafka novel. 
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: SkyDog58 on October 29, 2018, 11:13:49 AM
Super delegates are no more.  That was an attempt by Felonious to secure the nomination no matter the actual vote count.

 The power brokers are all alt left types, and they have firm control over the DNC, so yes, in essence they control the outcome.

I knew the dems were talking of changing the superdelegate rules but I did not hear that they had done so.  So I googled it and found this on Wikipedia:

“On August 25, 2018, the Democratic National Committee agreed to reduce the influence of superdelegates by generally preventing them from voting on the first ballot at the Democratic National Convention, allowing their votes only in a contested nomination.”

So they still exist but the change is definitely an improvement though I think they should be eliminated entirely.  But as they say “their party, their rules”. 
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Lucifer on October 29, 2018, 11:16:30 AM
I knew the dems were talking of changing the superdelegate rules but I did not hear that they had done so.  So I googled it and found this on Wikipedia:

“On August 25, 2018, the Democratic National Committee agreed to reduce the influence of superdelegates by generally preventing them from voting on the first ballot at the Democratic National Convention, allowing their votes only in a contested nomination.”

So they still exist but the change is definitely an improvement though I think they should be eliminated entirely.  But as they say “their party, their rules”.

OK, thanks for the clarification.  I knew there was a major change due to the Clinton driven fiasco.

 2020 will be interesting as far as the DNC is concerned.
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: SkyDog58 on October 29, 2018, 11:23:18 AM
...

 2020 will be interesting as far as the DNC is concerned.

And I wholeheartedly agree with that.   I am anticipating or at least hoping for a primary season similar to the one the gop went through in 2016.  It should be entertaining. 
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Lucifer on October 29, 2018, 11:38:26 AM
And I wholeheartedly agree with that.   I am anticipating or at least hoping for a primary season similar to the one the gop went through in 2016.  It should be entertaining.

 It will be entertaining.

 Will they try to "out left" each other?  Will they try to see who is the most far left lunatic fringe progressive?  Or maybe they'll finally open embrace communism....a come out of the closet moment.
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Anthony on October 29, 2018, 11:42:11 AM
The only hope for the Democrats is if the adopt a more centrist platform, and candidate.  Fortunately, they will do neither and continue to think they just haven't been PROGRESSIVE enough.  Look for the promise of more, and more free stuff, of course all paid for by the top 1% which ends up being the middle income earner yet again.
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Lucifer on October 29, 2018, 11:48:33 AM
Many of our current problems would disappear with term limits for both the house and the senate.

Career politicians, from both sides, have found out using tax payer dollars to buy votes is the way to stay in office.

The founders and authors of the constitution would have never agreed to career politicians.  Since they originally envisioned representatives to be average citizens representing their districts, and senators would be appointed by state legislatures the idea of a career politician didn't hold much merit.

 Time for an article V convention.
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: invflatspin on October 29, 2018, 12:05:51 PM
This is going to seem kind of strange, so it fits me perfectly. I don't see that the Dems can or will change much of their platform. I think what they need is someone of stature, or vision, or charisma. If they are going to play to the cult of personality, then that personality needs to have Jesus-like qualities. Good looking, some kind of minority mix, tall, well-spoken, easy-going and friendly personality, etc.

A political used-car salesman would be the ideal guy/gal to lead the left side of the aisle. Sadly, all the power players over there are screaming, angry, frustrated, ugly, followers. I know it's hackneyed but if the Dems can't find their JFK in the next 5-8 years, they are toast for a long time. JFK could(and did) stand there and insult you with a grin on his face and you'd still like the bastard. He had the same kind of platform, but not as radical, but when he spoke to the crowd, we could tell he was not only sincere, but he was dynamic and a force to be reckoned with if he set his mind to something.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCcQ_UfPGqM

Can you imagine ANYONE on the left giving this kind of speech - ever?
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Rush on October 29, 2018, 12:10:02 PM
Liberals I know used to get defensive and argumentative when I called them "Socialist".
Now, when I use the word, they say "what's wrong with that"?

It's a different world and I don't know where this is leading.  I'm just glad I'm old.

I'll never forget the moment my brother first said that.  We were debating some election or other and I said something about the Democrats moving toward socialism, and my brother said, "Well maybe we need a little socialism!"  I was shocked.  It's been all downhill from there.
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Anthony on October 29, 2018, 12:24:49 PM
Many of our current problems would disappear with term limits for both the house and the senate.

Career politicians, from both sides, have found out using tax payer dollars to buy votes is the way to stay in office.

The founders and authors of the constitution would have never agreed to career politicians.  Since they originally envisioned representatives to be average citizens representing their districts, and senators would be appointed by state legislatures the idea of a career politician didn't hold much merit.

 Time for an article V convention.

You DO know how we dealt with Royalty before, right?
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Little Joe on October 29, 2018, 01:01:19 PM
You DO know how we dealt with Royalty before, right?
Yeah,
We gave their marriages and baby announcements 7x24 coverage.

Or are you talking about that one time thing a couple hundred years ago when men had balls?
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: SkyDog58 on October 29, 2018, 04:40:17 PM
You DO know how we dealt with Royalty before, right?

Do you mean the bowing

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-qiL4XlDFX9E/VxZU3GaohFI/AAAAAAAAMeE/R57cBxs0MFsSJ1AGJ8gjek4-LVPkM7hIgCLcB/s1600/PBO_Bowing.jpg)

or the kissing?

(https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-4b662d868b24b80977afb195dce117f4)

Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: invflatspin on October 29, 2018, 05:37:58 PM
I'm not sorry, that is a complete false equivalence attempt. Kissing on the cheeks between a royal and head of state is strictly peer-to-peer. It is in lieu of handshake, where both parties are equal. Now, if the kiss had been on the hand or ring, or some such you might have a case.  The bow(when done correctly, unlike BO) is strictly from a supplicant or person of lesser status to an elder, a boss, or superior

bowing to the engineer;
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAHKqtsGZLU

Elevator lady bowing to passengers and customers;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gOMovWEszo

Nope, BO was being an ass, and plus he didn't' know the protocol for bowing anyway. More than a year spent in Japan, I learned a few things.
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Anthony on October 29, 2018, 06:28:00 PM
I live near Valley Forge.  Guess what response to Royalty I am talk about. 
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Lucifer on November 02, 2018, 03:50:50 PM
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Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Lucifer on November 02, 2018, 03:51:15 PM
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Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Lucifer on November 02, 2018, 03:52:27 PM
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Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Lucifer on November 02, 2018, 03:55:34 PM
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Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Anthony on November 03, 2018, 09:08:16 AM
Hillary is the definition of the "C" word. 
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Lucifer on November 15, 2018, 06:59:08 AM
Looks like no one wants to pay to hear them speak.

http://www.theamericanmirror.com/source-bill-and-hillary-clinton-tour-canceled-due-to-poor-sales-and-broaddrick-movie-shadowing-it/
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Anthony on November 15, 2018, 09:45:51 AM
Who the HELL, beyond committed Leftists would want to see these to has beens speak?  WTF?
Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Lucifer on November 15, 2018, 11:15:09 AM
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Title: Re: A Rematch in the Works?
Post by: Lucifer on November 15, 2018, 11:16:13 AM
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