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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Rush on July 17, 2018, 06:23:55 PM

Title: Trump is a narcissist
Post by: Rush on July 17, 2018, 06:23:55 PM
But so was Obama. 

I just watched a documentary on Trump. I suspected he might be anyway, but now I'm more convinced than ever.  But at this point in history, I think it takes a narcissist to have the supreme level of confidence to stand up to the sustained attacks from the media, the deep state and the hysterical left. He simply refuses to be bested by them. Maybe you have to have a narcissistic belief in yourself to withstand all that.

Obama's narcissism was a fake image (messiah-like) promising a utopia that he never could bring.

Trump's narcissism is fueling a drive to succeed as President against all these enemies - I truly think the more they attack him, the more resolved he is to come out on top.  In his prior life he tended to construct monuments to himself.  Now, he is constructing the biggest monument of all - his legacy as President, and he is trying to make it as great a legacy as possible, and fortunately for us, how he is doing it happens to align with what is good for America.

From his business experience, or his advisers, or where ever, he came up with his campaign promises, and now he is fulfilling them, almost like he made plans for a building, and now he is constructing them.  Fortunately, much of what he's doing is very, very good for America, whether he truly cares, or whether he's just doing it for his own glory, doesn't matter.

Maybe it was only chance that he ran on the Republican ticket, and listens to conservative advisers. Maybe if things had been different, he would have run as a Democrat or a liberal. Maybe he cares less about which side he is on, than about what will uplift him the most. Maybe he simply has enough brains to know that conservative economic policies are what will build America, and hence his own legacy.

In any case, I'm enjoying my tax cut.
Title: Re: Trump is a narcissist
Post by: bflynn on July 18, 2018, 05:38:14 AM
Ok.

I think wanting to run for president REQUIRES a certain minimum level of narcissism.  You are claiming that of all the hundreds of millions of people in the country and the billions on the planet, YOU are the best one to lead the most powerful nation in the world.  Yes, that is certainly narcissism.
Title: Re: Trump is a narcissist
Post by: Rush on July 18, 2018, 06:50:07 AM
Ok.

I think wanting to run for president REQUIRES a certain minimum level of narcissism.  You are claiming that of all the hundreds of millions of people in the country and the billions on the planet, YOU are the best one to lead the most powerful nation in the world.  Yes, that is certainly narcissism.

A certain infamous poster on the AOPA board, gone years now, once told me that. I think it is very possible.
Title: Re: Trump is a narcissist
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on July 18, 2018, 08:16:06 AM
But so was Obama. 

I just watched a documentary on Trump. I suspected he might be anyway, but now I'm more convinced than ever.  But at this point in history, I think it takes a narcissist to have the supreme level of confidence to stand up to the sustained attacks from the media, the deep state and the hysterical left. He simply refuses to be bested by them. Maybe you have to have a narcissistic belief in yourself to withstand all that.

Obama's narcissism was a fake image (messiah-like) promising a utopia that he never could bring.

Trump's narcissism is fueling a drive to succeed as President against all these enemies - I truly think the more they attack him, the more resolved he is to come out on top.  In his prior life he tended to construct monuments to himself.  Now, he is constructing the biggest monument of all - his legacy as President, and he is trying to make it as great a legacy as possible, and fortunately for us, how he is doing it happens to align with what is good for America.

From his business experience, or his advisers, or where ever, he came up with his campaign promises, and now he is fulfilling them, almost like he made plans for a building, and now he is constructing them.  Fortunately, much of what he's doing is very, very good for America, whether he truly cares, or whether he's just doing it for his own glory, doesn't matter.

Maybe it was only chance that he ran on the Republican ticket, and listens to conservative advisers. Maybe if things had been different, he would have run as a Democrat or a liberal. Maybe he cares less about which side he is on, than about what will uplift him the most. Maybe he simply has enough brains to know that conservative economic policies are what will build America, and hence his own legacy.

In any case, I'm enjoying my tax cut.
An excellent theory, and it makes a lot of pieces fall into place in the puzzle that is Trump.

Someone once opined, “He’s a glorious bastard, but he’s our glorious bastard.”
Title: Re: Trump is a narcissist
Post by: Mr Pou on July 19, 2018, 04:33:45 AM
Lots of stuff out there on this subject:

https://www.cheatsheet.com/culture/most-narcissistic-presidents-including-donald-trump.html/

https://bigthink.com/think-tank/why-narcissists-get-elected-president-with-jeffrey-kluger

https://www.washingtonpost.com/name-that-narcissistic-president/39298d22-2962-4540-918c-97b71a749144_quiz.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.27dfa9f2f37b
Title: Re: Trump is a narcissist
Post by: Rush on July 20, 2018, 07:25:15 AM
Lots of stuff out there on this subject:

https://www.cheatsheet.com/culture/most-narcissistic-presidents-including-donald-trump.html/

https://bigthink.com/think-tank/why-narcissists-get-elected-president-with-jeffrey-kluger

https://www.washingtonpost.com/name-that-narcissistic-president/39298d22-2962-4540-918c-97b71a749144_quiz.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.27dfa9f2f37b

Very interesting.  I had a lot of commentary on it and my iPad somehow made it all disappear and now I don't have enough time to rewrite it.  :'(
Title: Re: Trump is a narcissist
Post by: Anthony on July 21, 2018, 10:18:00 AM
Yes. He is a narcissist, but as you say his direction is positive for the U.S.  Most CEOs are narcissists.