PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: President-Elect Bob Noel on November 10, 2016, 09:04:01 AM
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Could it perhaps been because of the DNC platform?
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Could it perhaps been because of the DNC platform?
Believe the platform was a minor point. Hillary was a weak candidate. Probably a couple of reasons:
A significant portion just didn't want another Clinton
Poor campaigner
Trust and credibility issues
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Believe the platform was a minor point. Hillary was a weak candidate. Probably a couple of reasons:
A significant portion just didn't want another Clinton
Poor campaigner
Trust and credibility issues
And I now believe they severely underestimated the opposition.
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Believe the platform was a minor point. Hillary was a weak candidate. Probably a couple of reasons:
A significant portion just didn't want another Clinton
Poor campaigner
Trust and credibility issues
Clinton: Bought and sold, chameleon changed image based on surroundings
Trump: His own person, needs nothing from anyone, what you see is what you get
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And I now believe they severely underestimated the opposition.
Exactly. Tell your lib friends that every time they call someone a racist, homophobe, Islamaphobe, or hater, they have just created another Trump voter.
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Could it perhaps been because of the DNC platform?
I think it was a combination of things. Many are tired of the Big Government, and high tax solutions TO EVERYTHINGING that the Democrats always push. Some of it was just Hillary, a very flawed person, and very flawed candidate. She has a mean, selfish, dishonest persona, and no real personality. She also provided no plan, nor any solutions, just bashed Trump.
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Could it perhaps been because of the DNC platform?
No.
She lost because:
1) 8 years of Obama. She kept saying she wanted to continue his policies.
2) She is a terrible politician. She is not her husband.
3) Lack of personality. She is cold, calculating and insulates herself from the world. Her disdain for people is very apparent.
4) She's self adsorbed. It's all about her. This was suppose to be hers as in a coronation.
5) Lies, Lies, Lies, and even more Lies. She's not even a convincing liar.
6) Calling Trump supporters "deplorables" and other unsavory names.
7) No accomplishments after 30+ years in government. As First Lady she kept the WH embroiled in controversies and scandals. As a junior Senator she accomplished very little. As SOS she was a walking disaster as her and Obama's foreign policy destabilized the ME and lowered the US standing in the world.
8 ) Couldn't motivate her base.
I could go on and on. The DNC got snookered into nominating her (rigged nomination) and after 8 years of the worse president in history they needed some new energy, not a rehashed tired sick old woman.
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People recognized her for what she was; a lying, cheating, scheming, selfish, "politician".
People didn't like it that she sold influence , especially to hostile, foreign nations.
And people just didn't like her:
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/hillary-clinton-steven-spielberg/2015/09/26/id/693504/
Hillary Clinton grudgingly enlisted Steven Spielberg at her husband's insistence for secret coaching lessons to improve her image on the campaign trail, but the former first lady junked the "likeability lessons" as the race heated up for the Democratic presidential nomination.
"I get $250,000 to give a speech," according to a Clinton friend quoted in Klein's book, "and these Hollywood jackasses are going to tell me how to do it!"
Weren't these "Hollywood Jackasses" some of her biggest supporters; and donors?
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Believe the platform was a minor point. Hillary was a weak candidate. Probably a couple of reasons:
A significant portion just didn't want another Clinton
Poor campaigner
Trust and credibility issues
Trust and credibility here. I was undecided until about two weeks ago although pretty much always strongly leaning away from Hillary.
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No one wanted to listen to her screeching voice for 4 years. ;D
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Posted on Facebook: I guess a woman can be anything she wants, except President.
Reply: A woman sure can, just not THIS woman.
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No.
She lost because:...
I agree with most of that. Not so much about not being able to motivate her base. She did that really well in my opinion. She was weak in convincing those outside her base to embrace her though.
I think a good portion of the people who voted for her did so just because they were anti-Trump. The funny thing about the people who voted for Trump though is that most of them aren't just anti-Hillary, they're actually pro-Trump.
Personally, there was nothing attracting me to Hillary. Nothing she has done, nothing she said she planned on doing. Trump, on the other hand, actually had some good points. But he's an immature lunatic and I can't fathom him behaving any differently once he's in office. In a sense, I equate him to people who open carry. Yes, you have the legal right to do that, but you know you're going to scare the hell out of a lot of people. Trump leaves many with the impression that he's clueless, tempermental, doesn't want to know the details but can't see the big picture either. It's like a kid writing a high school paper. "If I were president I'd...", with no idea of how things are actually done, or the fact that if you do x, then Y will happen. The only hope we have is that he'll surround himself with knowledgeable people who will be able to influence him.
I didn't agree with everything Cruz had to say, but I was still rallying for him long after he was out of the game. I was sure people would come to their senses and put him back in the running.
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1 - she was an extremely flawed candidate, far more than Trump
2 - folks in the middle are tired of being ignored, mistreated, called the most vile and desipicable names, etc
3 - folks in the middle are tired of occupy this, those lives matter, men in the ladies room, and the general rejection of common values that have held us together for a couple centuries
4 - she was an extremely flawed candidate
5 - she is an extremely unlikeable person
6 - she is very likely the most corrupt person ever to run for the office, and she was unable to hide that fact (thanks wikileaks)
7 - the special snowflakes have behaved so poorly that people are out to deliberately hurt their feelings (fun to watch them cry and bite their pillows)
8 - she was an extremely flawed candidate
9 - the platform was too radical
10 - Trump's message resonated with people
'Gimp
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Hilary Clinton represented just everything that people come to hate over time.
Even the snowflakes were turning against her. If the election were another month out, you would see an even greater margin of defeat because of her likeability crisis.
The establishment (many on the right side of the aisle, wet their pants at the thought of the corruption that would be possible with the corrupt doormat sitting behind the Resolute Desk, but while they were partying and spending like drunken sailors, people were experiencing diminishing household income coupled with skyrocketing obamacare premiums, and an economy built to fail. That doesn't endear you to many voters.
When things started to tighten the Clinton Crime Syndicate trotted out old, worn out, stupid people to order voters to do what they are told, not what they wish and that went over poorly, too.