PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Rush on February 24, 2020, 05:12:32 PM
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Trying to figure out who all I'm voting for in this election.
The craziest stuff, a Republican candidate for U.S. Senator says about gun violence: Guns are not the problem (Yay) 90% of school shootings can be traced back to anti-depressants. THEREFORE: if you're prescribed anti-depressants, you can't live in the same home as someone who owns guns.
ARRRRGGGHH!! The idiocy. First of all, the school shooters are crazy first, on ADs second. Maybe it's the crazy, not the AD that makes them shoot up schools.
Secondly, 90% of school shooters being on AD is not the same as saying 90% of people on ADs will shoot up schools. Probably 99.9999% of people on ADs do not shoot up schools. You want to deprive 99.9999% of people on ADs of their second amendment right to protect themselves because of the extremely rare case of school shooters.
That's a REPUBLICAN.
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Government stooges whether Republican or Democrat hate that people can be self sufficient and protect themselves. They all want to disarm us to create dependency and control.
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There is nothing I hate more than people who can’t see logic. The illogic of that guy is unforgivable. Maybe he is trying to pander to some anti gunners to get their vote.
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I guess he was talking about school shootings which are very rare and in which few people die. The vast majority of shootings are by by inner city, Black on Black violence, where those that do the shooting often are Felons and prohibited from even touching a gun.
Recidivism is the real problem. Keep violent criminals in jail. The DA's plea down the gun chargers and let these guys do little or no jail time.
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I guess he was talking about school shootings which are very rare and in which few people die. The vast majority of shootings are by by inner city, Black on Black violence, where those that do the shooting often are Felons and prohibited from even touching a gun.
Recidivism is the real problem. Keep violent criminals in jail. The DA's plea down the gun chargers and let these guys do little or no jail time.
The only thing I liked about Bloomberg was that he said essentially the same thing.
One of the many many things I do NOT like about Bloomberg is that he apologized for saying it.
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The only thing I liked about Bloomberg was that he said essentially the same thing.
One of the many many things I do NOT like about Bloomberg is that he apologized for saying it.
Do you mean "Stop and Frisk"? I know that it was reportedly effective, but I don't like it because it allows Police to harass anyone for no reason, and no probable cause. It is a dangerous trend. What's next? Illegal search and seizure?
But yes, he went back on it and said it was wrong. Purely to attract the Black vote, because the stop and frisk occurred mostly in Black neighborhoods were most of the crime occurs. Blacks commit more crime, especially violent crime. Therefore, they are going to get scrutinized more. I am FOR profiling, but not stop and frisk prior to any crime being committed.
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There is nothing I hate more than people who can’t see logic. The illogic of that guy is unforgivable. Maybe he is trying to pander to some anti gunners to get their vote.
but what feels right?
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Do you mean "Stop and Frisk"? I know that it was reportedly effective, but I don't like it because it allows Police to harass anyone for no reason, and no probable cause. It is a dangerous trend. What's next? Illegal search and seizure?
But yes, he went back on it and said it was wrong. Purely to attract the Black vote, because the stop and frisk occurred mostly in Black neighborhoods were most of the crime occurs. Blacks commit more crime, especially violent crime. Therefore, they are going to get scrutinized more. I am FOR profiling, but not stop and frisk prior to any crime being committed.
Not necessarily "stop and frisk". I was mostly referring to him saying that the majority of crime was committed by young men, and most of them were black. And also that they had an increased police presence in poor black areas because that was where most of the crime was. All of that was true, but he apologized for saying it.
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Not necessarily "stop and frisk". I was mostly referring to him saying that the majority of crime was committed by young men, and most of them were black. And also that they had an increased police presence in poor black areas because that was where most of the crime was. All of that was true, but he apologized for saying it.
I wasn't aware that he said that, but yes it is accurate. He recanted it and the stop and frisk policy purely to pander to Blacks for the Black vote. He's just a liar, and when politicians like him lie it sometimes comes back to bite them.
My big beef with Bloomberg, but not my only one, is his funding of anti (legal) gun groups and promotion of gun bans, and confiscation. He as a large, personal, well armed security team because he is just oh so special. We're not, at least to him. He is just another Democrat HYPOCRITE, liar.
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Not necessarily "stop and frisk". I was mostly referring to him saying that the majority of crime was committed by young men, and most of them were black. And also that they had an increased police presence in poor black areas because that was where most of the crime was. All of that was true, but he apologized for saying it.
Yeah he was sort of just speaking facts and he's being blasted for it, including Sean Hannity. On the one hand I like facts and I don't like PC. On the other hand, right now we are in a situation where mentioning the facts (that young black males disproportionately represent criminals) is not helping.
One way of addressing crime in the inner cities is to send in the police, crack down hard, profile, stop and frisk, etc. But if we don't fix what's broken, this may dampen crime in the short run but is having terrible consequences in the long run. It has led to the whole BLM movement and backlash against law enforcement. Much of it is justified, but much isn't. Destroying respect for cops isn't the answer.
We have yet to address the REAL cause of young black male crime: Lack of jobs, lack of moral guidance from male role models, the rise of welfare, and the disastrous drug laws. Also the failure to integrate into mainstream society leads to gangs, which do not necessarily arise for the purpose of crime, but simply for the purpose of creating a community group to which young men can belong, and all young males must group bond with other males; it's in our DNA. As long as there were jobs downtown, blacks were rising economically, slowly overcoming history.
Part of the high crime rate among young black males is unfair overly enthusiastic prosecution against people too poor to afford good lawyers. Prosecutors, yes even black ones, maybe especially black ones, go for a high conviction rate and this ensnares a lot of innocents.
For Bloomberg, or Hannity, or anyone on the left or the right to talk about high crime rate among blacks in terms of only how to police them, punish them, and keep guns away from them while ignoring all these root causes is atrocious all around.
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Not necessarily "stop and frisk". I was mostly referring to him saying that the majority of crime was committed by young men, and most of them were black. And also that they had an increased police presence in poor black areas because that was where most of the crime was. All of that was true, but he apologized for saying it.
The proper reasons for increased police presence would be going where the crime is, responding to citizen requests for additional protection and attempting to interdict before the crime problem blossoms even more.