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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Lucifer on December 05, 2016, 12:23:53 PM

Title: Constitutional Convention?
Post by: Lucifer on December 05, 2016, 12:23:53 PM
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_GOP_CONTROL_AMENDING_THE_CONSTITUTION?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-12-05-12-00-41
Title: Re: Constitutional Convention?
Post by: Mase on December 05, 2016, 12:54:32 PM
http://www.conventionofstates.com/ (http://www.conventionofstates.com/)
Title: Re: Constitutional Convention?
Post by: Jim Logajan on December 05, 2016, 03:42:54 PM
My fear is that both Republican and Democrat delegates to such a convention would do as they have often done when legislating: reduce or trim away the few freedoms that remain in the constitution.
Title: Re: Constitutional Convention?
Post by: nddons on December 05, 2016, 03:54:19 PM
My fear is that both Republican and Democrat delegates to such a convention would do as they have often done when legislating: reduce or trim away the few freedoms that remain in the constitution.
Any action would have to be approved by legislatures (not governors, not the US Congress) of 38 states.

I see nothing but positives coming out of a Convention of States today.
Title: Re: Constitutional Convention?
Post by: bflynn on December 06, 2016, 08:33:46 AM
Any action would have to be approved by legislatures (not governors, not the US Congress) of 38 states.

I see nothing but positives coming out of a Convention of States today.

I'm with Jim.  There is much to be feared from a convention.  I don't trust that the delegates would be neutral and civic minded.  They would each be there trying to push their personal prejudices into law.  That's no way to make law and it's an even crappier way to make a Constitution.
Title: Re: Constitutional Convention?
Post by: Anthony on December 06, 2016, 08:43:04 AM
I'm with Jim.  There is much to be feared from a convention.  I don't trust that the delegates would be neutral and civic minded.  They would each be there trying to push their personal prejudices into law.  That's no way to make law and it's an even crappier way to make a Constitution.

It is a big risk for sure.  I am willing to give Trump a chance to see if he can turn the PC, anti Capitalism, big government cabal around.  If that doesn't happen, I'd be willing to roll the dice to either bring back what the Founding Fathers wanted (strong states, weak Federal government) or go to all out, central collective Communism.  Then the real decisions will have to be made by those that want freedom, and liberty. 
Title: Re: Constitutional Convention?
Post by: LevelWing on December 06, 2016, 01:14:28 PM
I'm with Jim.  There is much to be feared from a convention.  I don't trust that the delegates would be neutral and civic minded.  They would each be there trying to push their personal prejudices into law.  That's no way to make law and it's an even crappier way to make a Constitution.
If this occurred then it would just be deadlocked and nothing would get passed. The problem with that is that it would likely prevent or make it even more difficult in the future for a convention of the states. That's why, according to the article anyway, they are meeting in Tennessee to set the agenda. For this to work, the states will have to go in with a clear agenda and stick to it.