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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Number7 on October 28, 2021, 08:01:18 AM

Title: Gee: I wonder Why The Press Ignores This GREAT News???
Post by: Number7 on October 28, 2021, 08:01:18 AM
Florida has the lowest Covid infection rate in the country.

The senile imposter, faux president fuckwad excoriated DeSantis and Florida for remaining a free state, as opposed to a slave state like all the blue ones.

Now that the truth is out, the lame ass, communist news media are ignoring it because it's inconvenient and should embarrass the senile imposter and the rest of his fuckwad regime.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/10/27/florida-reaches-lowest-coronavirus-case-rate-nation/
Title: Re: Gee: I wonder Why The Press Ignores This GREAT News???
Post by: Little Joe on October 28, 2021, 05:12:57 PM
I am still frustrated because back when Florida was having a Covid spike, EVERY news article that came out blamed DeSantis by name.
Now that Covid has been on the wane here for over a month, not one article give DeSantis credit, or even mentions his name.
Title: Re: Gee: I wonder Why The Press Ignores This GREAT News???
Post by: Rush on October 28, 2021, 05:33:24 PM
The communist news media is totally in bed with Pfizer according to this report. And I’m going to start calling this dude a journalist because unlike mainstream media he is looking at things objectively and factually.  I wasn’t aware of the relationship between Pfizer and MSM until especially the second half of this video.

Title: Re: Gee: I wonder Why The Press Ignores This GREAT News???
Post by: bflynn on October 29, 2021, 04:10:56 AM
Well, Fox covered it.

You imply CNN and BSNBC are media organizations.
Title: Re: Gee: I wonder Why The Press Ignores This GREAT News???
Post by: Rush on October 29, 2021, 05:37:45 AM
Years ago I argued with my liberal brother about capitalism. He hated the big evil drug companies and I defended them. “The profit motive is what leads to innovation and creation of life saving treatments,” said I.

I wasn’t wrong. But neither was my brother, I now see. We can’t view capitalism as all good or all evil. That sort of black and white thinking is never reality.

The truth is all systems can have good results and evil results. The “evil” drug companies made the drugs that cured my child’s cancer. But here we see them putting profit above safety, certainly profit above freedom with the push to mandate new vaccine technology.

Russell Brand seems to think the solution is to separate the profit motive entirely from innovation and development in the areas that involve saving lives or the public good. I do not agree with him. I guess he wants all drug research to be funded by government and no profit made, I guess the drug company employees would be paid flat salaries. Their motivation would be “compassion”.

This is why I have a love/hate thing for Brand, bless his heart. He suffers from the leftist delusion that there is a world where humans will work their ass off out of love for their fellow man, for nothing more than what? Some government set fixed income?

BUT he certainly isn’t wrong about the greed and corruption happening with Pfizer here. Back when I argued with my brother (we’ve stopped discussing politics since 2016) I used to tell him that corporations were only evil when they joined with government because government can use coercive power. Maybe I was right all along, and certainly Russell points this out, his “matrix of treachery” - government+corporations+media. He certainly nails the problem, if not the solution.

Title: Re: Gee: I wonder Why The Press Ignores This GREAT News???
Post by: Lucifer on October 29, 2021, 05:46:54 AM
Capitalism is not the problem.

The problem is when we have big corporations using (and controlling) the government in order to advance their agenda and profits.

Take the government out of the equation and it falls back on free market and capitalism.  If the government was not involved look at how different Big Pharma and Big Tech would be behaving.
Title: Re: Gee: I wonder Why The Press Ignores This GREAT News???
Post by: bflynn on October 29, 2021, 05:58:45 AM
Corrupted morality is the problem.  With self regulating citizens, capitalism works great.  With immoral citizens who would sell out their grandma for a dime, capitalism is brutal and evil.

This explains why the Left hates capitalism, they believe all people are immoral.  It also explains why the right embraces capitalism, because everyone else is moral like I am, right?
Title: Re: Gee: I wonder Why The Press Ignores This GREAT News???
Post by: Number7 on October 29, 2021, 06:06:59 AM
Corrupt corporate leaders and corrupted politics s and judges are the actual problem.

Once Wall Street purchased what and whomever they wanted and the courts stood back and looked the other way, this train wreck was inevitable.
Title: Re: Gee: I wonder Why The Press Ignores This GREAT News???
Post by: Anthony on October 29, 2021, 06:41:40 AM
All of a sudden the Left is fine with greedy, big corporations because they have embraced their Marxist agenda.   Ironic on all levels.
Title: Re: Gee: I wonder Why The Press Ignores This GREAT News???
Post by: Rush on October 29, 2021, 06:46:03 AM
All of a sudden the Left is fine with greedy, big corporations because they have embraced their Marxist agenda.   Ironic on all levels.

THIS!  I’m debating whether to open the can of worms with my brother and ask if he is all for vaccine mandates because they’re making the evil big pharma rich. He probably is. But for the sake of my innocent nephew I want to remain on speaking terms with my brother and his wife.
Title: Re: Gee: I wonder Why The Press Ignores This GREAT News???
Post by: nddons on October 29, 2021, 08:10:21 AM
I am still frustrated because back when Florida was having a Covid spike, EVERY news article that came out blamed DeSantis by name.
Now that Covid has been on the wane here for over a month, not one article give DeSantis credit, or even mentions his name.
You mean even Florida media is biased? 

This is my shocked face.
Title: Re: Gee: I wonder Why The Press Ignores This GREAT News???
Post by: nddons on October 29, 2021, 08:49:26 AM
Capitalism is not the problem.

The problem is when we have big corporations using (and controlling) the government in order to advance their agenda and profits.

Take the government out of the equation and it falls back on free market and capitalism.  If the government was not involved look at how different Big Pharma and Big Tech would be behaving.
Patent law is at least 500 years old, and some writings say it existed long before that.

Patent protection is reasonable for companies who expend great money and effort to come up with products that people want or need to buy. Without patent protection, many advances would literally not have happened. 

Patent protection is granted by the government, and could be taken away by the government, which would be devastating to commerce and capitalism.

That being said, patent protection should come with some requirements. In Stan’s manifesto, being granted US patent protection would require:

1.  The product would be manufactured 100% within the United States from 100% US raw materials for the term of the patent.  No exceptions except for natural resources that don’t exist within the US and US territories.

2.  The inventor is required to submit to a transfer pricing scheme whereby US consumers would be charged no more than foreign consumers for the term of the patent.

3.  If the inventor seeks liability protection for its patented product, such protection would render the patent null and void.
Title: Re: Gee: I wonder Why The Press Ignores This GREAT News???
Post by: nddons on October 29, 2021, 09:00:32 AM
Corrupted morality is the problem.  With self regulating citizens, capitalism works great.  With immoral citizens who would sell out their grandma for a dime, capitalism is brutal and evil.

This explains why the Left hates capitalism, they believe all people are immoral.  It also explains why the right embraces capitalism, because everyone else is moral like I am, right?
John Adams said that “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People.  It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” 

James Madison wrote that our Constitution requires “sufficient virtue among men for self-government,” otherwise, “nothing less than the chains of despotism can restrain them from destroying and devouring one another.”

Capitalism has similar requirements. While imperfect, it is not evil nor brutal. It is what it is, and to the extent capitalism requires limited governmental intervention (patent protection, trade policies, environmental policies, national security policies) it can thrive, and benefit society as a whole.
Title: Re: Gee: I wonder Why The Press Ignores This GREAT News???
Post by: Rush on October 29, 2021, 09:03:25 AM
Patent law is at least 500 years old, and some writings say it existed long before that.

Patent protection is reasonable for companies who expend great money and effort to come up with products that people want or need to buy. Without patent protection, many advances would literally not have happened. 

Patent protection is granted by the government, and could be taken away by the government, which would be devastating to commerce and capitalism.

That being said, patent protection should come with some requirements. In Stan’s manifesto, being granted US patent protection would require:

1.  The product would be manufactured 100% within the United States from 100% US raw materials for the term of the patent.  No exceptions except for natural resources that don’t exist within the US and US territories.

2.  The inventor is required to submit to a transfer pricing scheme whereby US consumers would be charged no more than foreign consumers for the term of the patent.

3.  If the inventor seeks liability protection for its patented product, such protection would render the patent null and void.

I might add that if the government funded the development (taxpayers) then the profits need to be redistributed back to the taxpayers. Or would that remove the incentive to create the product? In the case of the covid vaccine, we (taxpayers) funded it, AND are paying the drug companies for each dose, and it’s only the drug companies that get to keep the profit.  I suppose of you have Pfizer stock in your portfolio maybe you do too. I wonder what’s in our mutual funds?