PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Lucifer on December 08, 2021, 05:50:19 AM
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That's right.
The MIC has put their army of lobbyist on full alert inside the beltway and are heavily investing in politicians to gin up a nice unending war in the Ukraine.
The cries of deploying troops to the Ukraine to protect their border is growing louder. Borders must be protected if it's a foreign country by our military. Imperative.
Huge troop build up means lots and lots of big contract$.
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Biden doesn't have the balls to stand up to anyone. If he tries again, it will be a tepid, pro forma response, with our soldiers having to check the ROEs to find out if they can wipe their butt.
Every war that American has lost was lost by the politicians. Ukraine would be no exception.
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Zelensky stands on the floor of Congress wearing a fucking sweatshirt and demanding another $45 BILLION of our tax dollars?
The only think worse than seeing him is seeing the jock sniffing members of Congress falling all over themselves to be near this guy.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/zelensky-s-visit-yields-remarkable-moment-for-two-presidents/ar-AA15xTJQ
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Interesting that we're spending all of this money to install this little Dictator there. I don't believe he has any interest in a Democratic Society. Look at some of the things he's done since this started.
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We, the United States of America, don't want nor exist in a Democracy. Why are these people talking about keeping or installing one in Ukraine? The political, government and corporate interests in America clearly want a 1930s/40s style of German Fascism where government and corporations work hand in hand with favors given to those who comply. The Elite and their Apparachiks get the rewards.
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We, the United States of America, don't want nor exist in a Democracy. Why are these people talking about keeping or installing one in Ukraine? The political, government and corporate interests in America clearly want a 1930s/40s style of German Fascism where government and corporations work hand in hand with favors given to those who comply. The Elite and their Apparachiks get the rewards.
“Democracy” has become a euphemism for “shut up and let the fascist global cabal run everything”.
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“Democracy” has become a euphemism for “shut up and let the fascist global cabal run everything”.
You said it much better than I did. Exactly correct. Sad, and maybe inevitable for our society to devolve into this state.
Meanwhile I am making cartridges in my basement and the actual cast bullets in my garage. Just my normal reloading hobby, you know, for hunting animals in the woods. Because, we all know the 2A is about hunting. ;D
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I'm not exactly sure what all of your objections are. Is it the amount of money we are spending? I consider that as a small, selfish investment for ourselves. If Russia fails here that will strengthen our hand against Iran and China.
Is it Ukraine's involvement with Hunter Biden?
Or perhaps it is just the fact that Biden and the Dems are for it so you have to be against it?
Is it the incorrect use of the word "Democracy"? Perhaps what they are striving for isn't actually Democracy. Democracy isn't right for everyone. In fact, it isn't right for us either. But if they survive this in any form, they are bound to be a friend of the US and indebted to us, and we need all the friends we can get.
So convince me what you see as a problem with our support here. My only worry is that we have gone this far already. If we pull back now, we will look even worse than we did withdrawing from Afghanistan. And my biggest objection to Biden (in this regard only) so far is that he has given them too little, too late. If he had shown some backbone in January this whole fustercluck may not have ever happened in the first place. Biden has done NOTHING else that I could defend to any degree.
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I'm not exactly sure what all of your objections are. Is it the amount of money we are spending? I consider that as a small, selfish investment for ourselves. If Russia fails here that will strengthen our hand against Iran and China.
Is it Ukraine's involvement with Hunter Biden?
Or perhaps it is just the fact that Biden and the Dems are for it so you have to be against it?
Is it the incorrect use of the word "Democracy"? Perhaps what they are striving for isn't actually Democracy. Democracy isn't right for everyone. In fact, it isn't right for us either. But if they survive this in any form, they are bound to be a friend of the US and indebted to us, and we need all the friends we can get.
So convince me what you see as a problem with our support here. My only worry is that we have gone this far already. If we pull back now, we will look even worse than we did withdrawing from Afghanistan. And my biggest objection to Biden (in this regard only) so far is that he has given them too little, too late. If he had shown some backbone in January this whole fustercluck may not have ever happened in the first place. Biden has done NOTHING else that I could defend to any degree.
First objection: FTX. We found out that much of our taxpayer money going to Ukraine came back to the Democrat party.
Second: We don't necessarily want Russia to fall too much as a country. Too many nukes to end up in a fractured, failed nation. Russia needs to remain a superpower.
Third: While I was fine helping Ukraine defend Kiev, they need to give up Donbas. Time to negotiate a settlement, Russia will take it. Russia knows Kiev ain't gonna happen and they need an off ramp to save face. But Zelensky won't do it as long as we keep sending him money.
Fourth: Ukrainians dying to defend Kiev and the nation is one thing, continuing to die defending Donbas for months and years is quite another. Half of Donbas population wants to be in Russia anyway. Negotiate to keep Odessa, and end the war. If Zelensky cared about his people that's what he would do.
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Our country is in a financial crisis brought forth by a corrupt administration.
Homeless Americans are on the rise. Homeless veterans are at an all time high. We have an open border that's out of control, and currently we are under invasion. The drugs that are streaming across our border is killing thousands upon thousands.
Our country has unfunded liabilities, and many American futures look dim. The US has infrastructure issues that are getting worse.
With the administration induced recession, Americans have seen $7 Trillion of wealth vanish.
And here we are in a proxy war with Russia, backing a corrupt regime in Ukraine. We are paying the salaries and retirements of Ukraine government workers. The US is giving $billions$ in aid to one of the most corrupt countries on earth with zero accountability.
Many of the arms we are sending to the Ukraine are showing up in black markets in other countries. We are depleting our military ordinance and hardware at record levels.
Ukraine is nothing more than a huge money laundering operation that our regime is using to rape the citizens of our country.
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If Zelensky cared about his people that's what he would do.
The only thing Zelensky wants is to keeps skimming money from the tens of millions the U.S. is sending him.
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We are depleting our military ordinance and hardware at record levels.
So much this, weapons that will take months, if not years to replenish our own forces with and how many billions if not trillions to do so. They are making our military weaker with every shipment out of inventories. Is that something you want?
How much is being kicked back to the Biden's, Romney's and other of our pols that have family members involved in Ukraine? You do know that Zelensky is a dictator at this point, right?
With the latest patriot missile equipment deal we have to send in our military to train them, Vietnam here we come.
We could have built the wall several times over with the money we are sending to Zelensky. Why are you against protecting our own border?
Why are we sending money to other nations in the Omnibus for their border security and explicitly not allowing any of the money going to DHS be used for any border security technology?
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Thoughts from Twitter....
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So much this, weapons that will take months, if not years to replenish our own forces with and how many billions if not trillions to do so. They are making our military weaker with every shipment out of inventories. Is that something you want?
Please correct me if I'm wrong. I understand that much of the ordnance that we're sending over there is near the end of its shelf life. It would have to be disposed of anyway. Rather than doing it the hard way, just send it over there and let Ukraine dispose of it however they see fit.
But I don't understand the money. Billions of dollars. Are they actual dollars that Ukraine is then spending to buy materials? Or is it "in kind" dollars where we send them materials? I really don't know. All I hear is dollars being sent but never really hear the specifics.
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Please correct me if I'm wrong. I understand that much of the ordnance that we're sending over there is near the end of its shelf life. It would have to be disposed of anyway. Rather than doing it the hard way, just send it over there and let Ukraine dispose of it however they see fit.
Not all of it. The US is seriously depleting hardware in inventory. And lots of that hardware uses modern up to date ordinance.
But I don't understand the money. Billions of dollars. Are they actual dollars that Ukraine is then spending to buy materials? Or is it "in kind" dollars where we send them materials? I really don't know. All I hear is dollars being sent but never really hear the specifics.
That's a huge part of the problem, because the regime is not being transparent. While some of the funding is in turn being sent to the MIC to produce, more money is going to Ukraine in the form of cash. Also in the mix are several NGO's that are "supporting" Ukraine, however once again there is no accountability.
The Biden Regime and the UniParty wants to keep this secret, because Ukraine is nothing more than a huge money laundering scheme. Many people, including the American political class, are realizing wealth like never before, thus why so many in congress keep dumping more and more money into it.
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Pretty transparent where our politicians’ loyalties lie.
https://gab.com/a/posts/109554736649964462
https://gab.com/OldSaintNick/posts/109556839843195749
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Please correct me if I'm wrong. I understand that much of the ordnance that we're sending over there is near the end of its shelf life. It would have to be disposed of anyway. Rather than doing it the hard way, just send it over there and let Ukraine dispose of it however they see fit.
But I don't understand the money. Billions of dollars. Are they actual dollars that Ukraine is then spending to buy materials? Or is it "in kind" dollars where we send them materials? I really don't know. All I hear is dollars being sent but never really hear the specifics.
When you get them to tell you, let us all know :D
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Why is it that fucking democrats are always giving away things that our enemies use to kill us?
I hate liberalism. It's a fucking mental disorder.
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I'm not exactly sure what all of your objections are. Is it the amount of money we are spending? I consider that as a small, selfish investment for ourselves. If Russia fails here that will strengthen our hand against Iran and China.
Is it Ukraine's involvement with Hunter Biden?
Or perhaps it is just the fact that Biden and the Dems are for it so you have to be against it?
Is it the incorrect use of the word "Democracy"? Perhaps what they are striving for isn't actually Democracy. Democracy isn't right for everyone. In fact, it isn't right for us either. But if they survive this in any form, they are bound to be a friend of the US and indebted to us, and we need all the friends we can get.
So convince me what you see as a problem with our support here. My only worry is that we have gone this far already. If we pull back now, we will look even worse than we did withdrawing from Afghanistan. And my biggest objection to Biden (in this regard only) so far is that he has given them too little, too late. If he had shown some backbone in January this whole fustercluck may not have ever happened in the first place. Biden has done NOTHING else that I could defend to any degree.
$100 Billion - 1/10th of a Trillion - is a small, selfish “investment”? And that “investment” is going to a dictator. See anything wrong with that?
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Ew.
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Ew.
And by like I mean, ewww!
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But totally believable.
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They don’t even try to hide it.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/12/zelensky-agrees-continue-using-blackrock-invest-ukraine-funds/
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Zelensky wants to part of the Globalist Elite.
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They don’t even try to hide it.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/12/zelensky-agrees-continue-using-blackrock-invest-ukraine-funds/
The author wrote "The US should demand to know how much money Zelensky is investing with Blackrock." But nowhere in the article does it indicate any money is being invested by Zelensky or Ukraine into Blackrock. Instead it sounds like firms owned in part by Blackrock may invest in Ukraine businesses. While I think Blackrock's Larry Fink is beneath contempt, they are a private entity and if they want to dump their client's funds into Ukraine, well let them. It is the dumping of taxpayer money that is more concerning.
As to the WEF, it is to Ukraine's small credit, at least up till now, that they've avoided associating with the "You will own nothing and be happy" gang. With luck they'll be no-shows.
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The author wrote "The US should demand to know how much money Zelensky is investing with Blackrock." But nowhere in the article does it indicate any money is being invested by Zelensky or Ukraine into Blackrock. Instead it sounds like firms owned in part by Blackrock may invest in Ukraine businesses. While I think Blackrock's Larry Fink is beneath contempt, they are a private entity and if they want to dump their client's funds into Ukraine, well let them. It is the dumping of taxpayer money that is more concerning.
As to the WEF, it is to Ukraine's small credit, at least up till now, that they've avoided associating with the "You will own nothing and be happy" gang. With luck they'll be no-shows.
https://rumble.com/v22wnw8-zelensky-partners-with-blackrock-to-use-reconstruction-funding...-lol.html
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https://rumble.com/v22wnw8-zelensky-partners-with-blackrock-to-use-reconstruction-funding...-lol.html
He makes the same mistaken assumptions as the previously posted author and adds in a bunch of unsupported claims and colorful opinions.
According to other sources Blackrock's role has been or will be advisory. According to https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/blackrocks-fink-ukraine-reconstruction-zelenskyy (https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/blackrocks-fink-ukraine-reconstruction-zelenskyy) "Fink and Zelenskyy held a virtual discussion back in September to discuss how BlackRock Financial Markets Advisory division "could provide pro bono advice to the Ukrainian government on setting up a reconstruction fund in support of the recovery of the Ukrainian economy," the government said at the time."
I can't see what Zelenskyy or Ukraine officials would need Blackrock for if they already were diverting western money to themselves. So this looks to be a case of Blackrock placing itself in or astride the flow of reconstruction funds from western sources into Ukraine and taking a cut of it.
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He makes the same mistaken assumptions as the previously posted author and adds in a bunch of unsupported claims and colorful opinions.
According to other sources Blackrock's role has been or will be advisory. According to https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/blackrocks-fink-ukraine-reconstruction-zelenskyy (https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/blackrocks-fink-ukraine-reconstruction-zelenskyy) "Fink and Zelenskyy held a virtual discussion back in September to discuss how BlackRock Financial Markets Advisory division "could provide pro bono advice to the Ukrainian government on setting up a reconstruction fund in support of the recovery of the Ukrainian economy," the government said at the time."
I can't see what Zelenskyy or Ukraine officials would need Blackrock for if they already were diverting western money to themselves. So this looks to be a case of Blackrock placing itself in or astride the flow of reconstruction funds from western sources into Ukraine and taking a cut of it.
Go do a bit more research on BlackRock. And not the sanitized bs, but how they actually operate.
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Go do a bit more research on BlackRock. And not the sanitized bs, but how they actually operate.
You'll need to provide at least one link.
Blackrock appears to make money the same way Fidelity, Vanguard, and other investment firms do: via management and advise fees.
* Blackrock (publicly traded as BLK) appears to have around $10 trillion under management generating $20 billion/year revenue.
* Vanguard (owned by its customers) has about $8 trillion under management generating $7 billion/year.
* Fidelity (owned by Abigal Johnson & Family (49%) and current and past company employees(51%)) has $4.5 trillion under management generating about $24 billion/year. (Our retirement funds are with Fidelity.)
I believe in all cases the management firms by default vote the stocks held in mutual funds they manage that customers invest in, which is where they manage to exert control over companies they do not have money directly at risk.
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https://thefederalist.com/2021/11/03/how-the-massive-money-manager-blackrock-endangers-u-s-prosperity-and-national-security/
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State of America in one picture.
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He makes the same mistaken assumptions as the previously posted author and adds in a bunch of unsupported claims and colorful opinions.
According to other sources Blackrock's role has been or will be advisory. According to https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/blackrocks-fink-ukraine-reconstruction-zelenskyy (https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/blackrocks-fink-ukraine-reconstruction-zelenskyy) "Fink and Zelenskyy held a virtual discussion back in September to discuss how BlackRock Financial Markets Advisory division "could provide pro bono advice to the Ukrainian government on setting up a reconstruction fund in support of the recovery of the Ukrainian economy," the government said at the time."
I can't see what Zelenskyy or Ukraine officials would need Blackrock for if they already were diverting western money to themselves. So this looks to be a case of Blackrock placing itself in or astride the flow of reconstruction funds from western sources into Ukraine and taking a cut of it.
Imagine that a Progressive investment company taking a cut of the graft.
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Imagine that a Progressive investment company taking a cut of the graft.
They're part of the Uniparty cabsl.