PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on January 15, 2019, 06:07:12 AM
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I've mentioned before that my grand-daughter is a progressive. Nothing exemplified it more than this quote from her latest blog entry.
The entire tour was gut-wrenching, but I am glad that I went. The camp serves as a crucial reminder of what unchecked human cruelty can lead to and accomplish. I hope that visitors to the camp leave with the same resolve that I did to speak up and not turn a blind eye to atrocities that take place around the world. The United States seems to be at a crucial point right now where nationalism is on the rise and divisions as concrete as walls between ‘us’ and ‘them’ are being solidified day after day. It is important that we together work toward what is right and to not let others suffer because we were complacent.
http://www.circumnavicait.com/a-weekend-in-krakow-the-city-auschwitz-birkenau-and-the-wieliczka-salt-mine/
What saddens me is her not seeing the vast difference between the rounding up and killing of the Jews vs the United States, a vastly diverse culture where no one is being rounded up.
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She's right except she has it upside down. It's her side (the left) who are the bad guys.
Hitler could not do what he did to the Jews without first painting them as "evil" through propaganda. That is exactly what the media and the democrats are doing to conservatives and white males and republicans and Trump supporters. They are telling lies and using pejorative terms (racist, xenophobic, homophobic, misogynist, etc) creating false monsters out of normal Americans. You can't persecute a group until you first do this.
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She's right except she has it upside down. It's her side (the left) who are the bad guys.
Hitler could not do what he did to the Jews without first painting them as "evil" through propaganda. That is exactly what the media and the democrats are doing to conservatives and white males and republicans and Trump supporters. They are telling lies and using pejorative terms (racist, xenophobic, homophobic, misogynist, etc) creating false monsters out of normal Americans. You can't persecute a group until you first do this.
You get it, big time. The parallels between Nazi Germany and the progressives in our country are shockingly strong. We are at a crossroads alright...
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Didn't start with folks being rounded up. Started with nationalists chanting slogans and scapegoating folks that didn't look like them. And perhaps you've all forgotten that we did our own little bit of rounding up here.
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Didn't start with folks being rounded up. Started with nationalists chanting slogans and scapegoating folks that didn't look like them. And perhaps you've all forgotten that we did our own little bit of rounding up here.
Exactly. We are seeing the progressives using this behavior right now.
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She's been brainwashed and indoctrinated. When FDR, a progressive (elitist, communist) Democrat rounded up U.S. citizens that happened to be Japanese, and put them in internment camps, that's OK to the Left. I understand that they weren't tortured, nor were conditions really bad, but the reality is they were jailed against their will, and their lives uprooted.
The American Left has always been the OPPRESIVE people in the U.S. Your granddaughter, unfortunately, like many young people is a party Apparatchik.
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She's been brainwashed and indoctrinated. When FDR, a progressive (elitist, communist) Democrat rounded up U.S. citizens that happened to be Japanese, and put them in internment camps, that's OK to the Left. I understand that they weren't tortured, nor were conditions really bad, but the reality is they were jailed against their will, and their lives uprooted.
The American Left has always been the OPPRESIVE people in the U.S. Your granddaughter, unfortunately, like many young people is a party Apparatchik.
Actually goes back further than FDR.
The democrat party fought to keep slavery, they fought to keep blacks from being counted as citizens, they fought to keep blacks from voting, they advocated Jim Crow laws, and they fought vigorously against integration and civil rights.
They even started and backed hate groups such as the KKK.
Then we have Woodrow Wilson, an academic and a progressive democrat. He took racism to a new level.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2015/11/20/9766896/woodrow-wilson-racist
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Engage her on the last sentence in her post: “It is important that we together work toward what is right and to not let others suffer because we were complacent.”
Sadly, I suspect it’s like with my adored liberal family member ... conversation not allowed.
You might point out that for her to remove your voice from discussion requires her to dismiss it by labeling you not merely different, but unworthy of even having a voice. Like Hitler did the Jews.
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All because of a massive inferiority complex of the Dims. Personal opinion...
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You should really make her head explode by comparing how the Nazis took the guns away from people to how the dems are trying to our guns away.
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You should really make her head explode by comparing how the Nazis took the guns away from people to how the dems are trying to our guns away.
Wouldn't register with her. The Nazis were evil and they had evil intent when they took away guns. She is good and her intentions are pure. Therefore there is no comparison.
If you want to try to shake her, ask her how many people she wants to allow into the US, how many she wants to have living with her and how much of her money she wants to give to support them until they're on their feet. Because bottom line, that's the impact to her. Lefties understand a fixed size pie, so maybe ask her what she is going to give up, put it into a percentage and convert to money.
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Wouldn't register with her. The Nazis were evil and they had evil intent when they took away guns. She is good and her intentions are pure. Therefore there is no comparison.
If you want to try to shake her, ask her how many people she wants to allow into the US, how many she wants to have living with her and how much of her money she wants to give to support them until they're on their feet. Because bottom line, that's the impact to her. Lefties understand a fixed size pie, so maybe ask her what she is going to give up, put it into a percentage and conver to money.
For a liberal progressive that’s an easy answer: Just tax the rich, because the don’t pay their fair share.
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For a liberal progressive that’s an easy answer: Just tax the rich, because the don’t pay their fair share.
So you predict her answer is that she isn't responsible for helping these people except when she see them in trouble and feels like she needs to help them.
The math of stealing from the rich doesn't really work once you start adding the money up. You end up taking all the money the first year and then what.
The more confusion to throw at them, the more likely they are to start questioning
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The more confusion to throw at them, the more likely they are to start questioning
Exactly. That's classic deprogramming techniques. Induce cognitive dissonance, introduce solutions using "right thinking," then solidify with concrete examples. It works well if the audience is willing to work through the cognitive dissonance or have a captive audience. In real life that's when they plug their ears and run away yelling that you're a racist.
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Some great pie videos here. AEI had a contest a few years back and these are gems.
http://www.aei.org/publication/aeis-video-contest-gallery/
Liberals really do have to convolute to keep their mental constructs intact. They honestly believe that “I’m not STEALING your pie, I’m GIVING your pie to someone else.”
Boggles the rational mind.
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Exactly. That's classic deprogramming techniques. Induce cognitive dissonance, introduce solutions using "right thinking," then solidify with concrete examples. It works well if the audience is willing to work through the cognitive dissonance or have a captive audience. In real life that's when they plug their ears and run away yelling that you're a racist.
Interestingly, we have Trump, who is unwilling to take on or accept the mantle of awfulness, or shadow, that libs assign him. He moves aside, like a matador, as the bull charges past instead of goring him. This has the tendency to direct people’s attention to him rather than the bull. And it leaves libs with nowhere to dump their dark side. Fun to watch.
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Exactly. That's classic deprogramming techniques. Induce cognitive dissonance, introduce solutions using "right thinking," then solidify with concrete examples. It works well if the audience is willing to work through the cognitive dissonance or have a captive audience. In real life that's when they plug their ears and run away yelling that you're a racist.
Precisely. Trump uses cognitive dissonance to create the enemy within.
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I've mentioned before that my grand-daughter is a progressive. Nothing exemplified it more than this quote from her latest blog entry.http://www.circumnavicait.com/a-weekend-in-krakow-the-city-auschwitz-birkenau-and-the-wieliczka-salt-mine/
What saddens me is her not seeing the vast difference between the rounding up and killing of the Jews vs the United States, a vastly diverse culture where no one is being rounded up.
Despite most comments being spot on here, especially Rush, your grand daughter made a nice travel log. She’s a good writer. Congratulations.
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Despite most comments being spot on here, especially Rush, your grand daughter made a nice travel log. She’s a good writer. Congratulations.
Did Eppy's granddaughter compare the Republicans and Trump to Nazi's? I skimmed the blog, but must have missed it. Yes it was well written, she's a smart, but misguided kid politically. But, many younger people have been indoctrinated by public, and private schools, then universities. Sad.
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Did Eppy's granddaughter compare the Republicans and Trump to Nazi's? I skimmed the blog, but must have missed it. Yes it was well written, she's a smart, but misguided kid politically. But, many younger people have been indoctrinated by public, and private schools, then universities. Sad.
All one has to do to understand the depth of the brainwashing going on in public schools and universities is to read one of steingar's ludicrous posts.
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Did Eppy's granddaughter compare the Republicans and Trump to Nazi's? I skimmed the blog, but must have missed it. Yes it was well written, she's a smart, but misguided kid politically. But, many younger people have been indoctrinated by public, and private schools, then universities. Sad.
Yes misguided, no doubt. But for a young person to travel to places and learn some history, and write about it, is an awesome start. Given the number of public school victims out there that know nothing about WWII or the Holocaust, kudos to her.
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Despite most comments being spot on here, especially Rush, your grand daughter made a nice travel log. She’s a good writer. Congratulations.
Thanks Stan. She attends Long Island Global University on a full scholarship. She spent last year in Costa Rica, last semester in Spain and this semester is Florence Italy.
From what I can glean she is getting a lot of the “this is why America sucks” education.
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Thanks Stan. She attends Long Island Global University on a full scholarship. She spent last year in Costa Rica, last semester in Spain and this semester is Florence Italy.
From what I can glean she is getting a lot of the “this is why America sucks” education.
You’ve got some work cut out for you, grandpa. But she’s starting out from a position of passion and intelligence, not passion and ignorance. You’re ahead of the game. Good luck.
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She may come around when she gets older, starts working, and looks at her pay check, where the Gross, and the Net are vastly, vastly different. lol!
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She may come around when she gets older, starts working, and looks at her pay check, where the Gross, and the Net are vastly, vastly different. lol!
That is when it hit me was when I got my first paycheck and I looked at the stub of deductions. Looking around imagining the same thing with everyone else then after talking with my Dad and the taxes he paid on the farm and what other folks were paying taxes on their businesses I realized then that NOTHING is free in this life. That was when I became conservative for good!
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That is when it hit me was when I got my first paycheck and I looked at the stub of deductions. Looking around imagining the same thing with everyone else then after talking with my Dad and the taxes he paid on the farm and what other folks were paying taxes on their businesses I realized then that NOTHING is free in this life. That was when I became conservative for good!
I was a socially liberal rebellious type student in high school and college, but I NEVER bought into economic collectivism (leftism) because I had happened upon "The Gulag Archipelago" when I was only 14 or so. That book inoculated me against any form of communism (which is basically what progressives are today) for life.
Hmmm... maybe you need to give your granddaughter a copy of that book.
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The realization of the difference between gross and net pay does come as a shock. But I think the big thing is that when young people start realizing how hard they have to work to make a living, THEN it dawns on them that liberals want to subsidize a comfortable lifestyle on those that don't work as hard; or at all. Of course, that doesn't happen quickly. It takes a few years.
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Yup. My annual tax bill would buy me an airplane every year. All I'm really asking for is tax relief for a single year. Apparently that's not only too much, the leftists want more.
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Yup. My annual tax bill would buy me an airplane every year. All I'm really asking for is tax relief for a single year. Apparently that's not only too much, the leftists want more.
Same here. I want to vomit when I think of how much we paid in taxes over our marriage, and now being forced into early retirement, I am LIVID that we don't have everything WE worked for all our lives.
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Same here. I want to vomit when I think of how much we paid in taxes over our marriage, and now being forced into early retirement, I am LIVID that we don't have everything WE worked for all our lives.
Yep. Besides income taxes, look at the government (fed and state) take on a gallon of gas. It is massively larger than the cut earned by the retailer, or the manufacturer. It is a sin.
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Same here. I want to vomit when I think of how much we paid in taxes over our marriage, and now being forced into early retirement, I am LIVID that we don't have everything WE worked for all our lives.
What, you don’t think you should supply Pelosi and family with Courvoisier and Gray Goose?
Politifact says the claim is Pants on Fire but when you read the article it’s because the amount claimed is higher than the amount spent.
Welcome to socialism! A few elite, a lot of unhappy bilked people, and eventually, no exceptionalism.
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/sep/21/michele-bachmann/michele-bachmann-accuses-nancy-pelosi-spending-100/