PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on December 05, 2018, 06:48:01 AM
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I'll admit I haven't read a lot about it. What little I heard mentioned was something about the transition staff contacting the Russians. Would that not have been after the election at that point and would certainly be no big deal. Seems like a big todo over nothing.
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I'll admit I haven't read a lot about it. What little I heard mentioned was something about the transition staff contacting the Russians. Would that not have been after the election at that point and would certainly be no big deal. Seems like a big todo over nothing.
Mueller destroyed his life and career over what could basically be considered the equivalent of jay walking. The General lost his home and his savings, everything.
But let's look at the real reason this was done to Gen Flynn. Go back to I believe 2014 when he was the director of the DIA. He was appointed by Obama. Gen Flynn took a hardline approach to Islamic Terrorism and clashed with BHO who wanted him to back away. Gen Flynn was critical of how BHO was handling Islamic Terrorism, so BHO fired him.
After Gen Flynn leaves the government he remains critical of BHO, publicly. Fast forward to 2016 and the General becomes an ally of Candidate Trump. BHO again advises Trump not to hire Flynn, but is ignored.
During the transition of the Trump Administration Gen Flynn makes a call to the Russian Ambassador, which was in his rights. The FBI, who had been wire tapping the Trump Administration reports this to the DoJ, and he is interviewed by none other than Peter Strzok. After the interview Strzok advises there is no problem. That later gets changed and through pressure Gen Flynn is fired, making him the first causality of the Trump Administration. The media rejoices, and BHO walks away smiling.
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I think they're worried about before and during the election. If they negotiated a lifting of sanctions for election assistance, for example, it would be illegal as heck. Not saying they did, only if they did.
While there may be no fire, the Donald's bromance with Putin does put out some smoke.
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I kept Fox on yesterday while I was burning my first attempt to make tangerine marmalade but that's not important right now.
They were talking about the Flynn sentencing memo. Is that what you mean or has there been another one? Anyway much redacted but basically no there there.
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I think they're worried about before and during the election. If they negotiated a lifting of sanctions for election assistance, for example, it would be illegal as heck. Not saying they did, only if they did.
While there may be no fire, the Donald's bromance with Putin does put out some smoke.
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Still going...
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Of course the Donald's bromance with MBS is really weird. Dude orchestrated the murder of an American and not a peep. Can't say I know what's up with that.
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Of course the Donald's bromance with MBS is really weird. Dude orchestrated the murder of an American and not a peep. Can't say I know what's up with that.
Khashoggi was not a US citizen. He was not an American. Please get your facts straight.
Furthermore, Khashoggi had dubious ties to the Muslim Brotherhood as well as Al Qaeda.
This act took place in a foreign country (Turkey) in a foreign embassy (KSA). The US is not the world's police force, so under what conditions or rights does any law enforcement arm of the US have in investigating this crime?
Odd that all of the sudden you worry about a foreigner that pisses off a foreign government getting whacked, but when BHO was targeting actual American Citizens to murder them, without due process, you were perfectly OK with it.
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Khashoggi was not a US citizen. He was not an American. Please get your facts straight.
Furthermore, Khashoggi had dubious ties to the Muslim Brotherhood as well as Al Qaeda.
This act took place in a foreign country (Turkey) in a foreign embassy (KSA). The US is not the world's police force, so under what conditions or rights does any law enforcement arm of the US have in investigating this crime?
Odd that all of the sudden you worry about a foreigner that pisses off a foreign government getting whacked, but when BHO was targeting actual American Citizens to murder them, without due process, you were perfectly OK with it.
Gotta remember Michael does not listen to the types of media where they tell "the rest of the story".
Did the dude deserve to be carved up, probably not. Is it any of our business, probably not. The dude pretty much pretended to be a journalist, but was more an activist for the bad guys. I'd guess he wasn't in Turkey to do good, more likely trying to help the bad guys.
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Khashoggi was not a US citizen. He was not an American. Please get your facts straight.
Furthermore, Khashoggi had dubious ties to the Muslim Brotherhood as well as Al Qaeda.
This act took place in a foreign country (Turkey) in a foreign embassy (KSA). The US is not the world's police force, so under what conditions or rights does any law enforcement arm of the US have in investigating this crime?
Odd that all of the sudden you worry about a foreigner that pisses off a foreign government getting whacked, but when BHO was targeting actual American Citizens to murder them, without due process, you were perfectly OK with it.
Dude was an American resident working for an American company. True, he wasn't a citizen. I guess you think cold blooded murder of a foreigner is OK.
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Whose jurisdiction was this guy killed? Whose laws applied? American, or Turkish law?
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Dude was an American resident working for an American company. True, he wasn't a citizen. I guess you think cold blooded murder of a foreigner is OK.
Not ok. Also not our problem.
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Dude was an American resident working for an American company.
He wasn't a resident either. He was here on a Visa.
True, he wasn't a citizen. I guess you think cold blooded murder of a foreigner is OK.
Foreigners are murdered every day in foreign countries. Again, what right does the US have to investigate or have jurisdiction over what happens in a foreign country? This murder happened in Turkey, let the Turk's handle it.
I see you conveniently didn't respond to my question of BHO and how he targeted actual American citizens for murder and denied them their constitutional rights. Doesn't fit your narrative, right?
You and the communist progressives would like to stage an international incident over the murder of a foreigner that one day before the murder happened you didn't even know who this guy was, nor did you care. You are just using him, like you have used so many for your own personal gain.
And why we are speaking of murders, where is your faux outrage on this?:
https://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/international/337805-the-us-cant-ignore-the-journalists-murdered-in-mexico
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Dude was an American resident working for an American company. True, he wasn't a citizen. I guess you think cold blooded murder of a foreigner is OK.
Where is all the outrage about what is going on in Yemen or Somalia?
Thousands and thousands of innocent people are killed in foreign countries. Many of them with some sort of ties to the US. Should we get involved in all of them? Should we sacrifice billions of dollars in trade for every one?
Please enlighten me as to why this is different than so many others?
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Dude was an American resident working for an American company. True, he wasn't a citizen. I guess you think cold blooded murder of a foreigner is OK.
So, mikey, why is THIS particular journalist such a cause for you and your mentally deranged brethen?
I cant remember you having any kind of reaction at all when Kate Steiniel (sp) was murdered by an illegal alien in a sanctuary city, so why does THIS specific person engender such emotional bullshit from you?
The answer is you have no fucking idea, because you were told to be upset and then set about being upset without a clue, or any fucking idea what you were doing.
That's why.
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Beyond that, what was your reaction when Benghazi happened? Those were American citizens.
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Beyond that, what was your reaction when Benghazi happened? Those were American citizens.
How about James Foley? Remember, he was an American journalist that was executed by Al Qaeda. Why, BHO was so angry about it, he just smiled and went golfing.
I don't remember the outrage on that one.
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How about James Foley? Remember, he was an American journalist that was executed by Al Qaeda. Why, BHO was so angry about it, he just smiled and went golfing.
I don't remember the outrage on that one.
I doubt we'll get an honest answer, because the topic wasn't covered by the people who own him.
Give it a little time and he will a lie that he thinks will satisfy everyone and paint him as sensitive and concerned.
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So, mikey, why is THIS particular journalist such a cause for you and your mentally deranged brethen?
I cant remember you having any kind of reaction at all when Kate Steiniel (sp) was murdered by an illegal alien in a sanctuary city, so why does THIS specific person engender such emotional bullshit from you?
Because this fellow was living in the US and paying US taxes. Personally, I think the reason none of you are concerned is because he didn't have a western name or lily white skin.
If someone is murdered here in the US there are laws and a process to punish the guilty. We went to war with James Foley's killers. I was outraged when the Obominator ordered his killbots to slay Americans with no due process, personally I think he and his henchmen should be charged with murder. And what's going on in Yemen is far, far worse. And what make it worse is that Trump's bromance with MBS has caused us to aid and abet him in his Yemini genocide. Obama's hands aren't clean in this, we aided and abetted the Saudis in their war against the poorest country in the Arabian peninsula. We all have blood on our hands.
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If he was murdered in the U.S., different story. He was murdered in Turkey, a sovereign state. What do you want us to do? Foreigners die in foreign countries all the time. We can't do anything about it. Why is this guy more important, because he was a known journalist? So what?
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Because this fellow was living in the US and paying US taxes. Personally, I think the reason none of you are concerned is because he didn't have a western name or lily white skin.
Right on cue.
If someone is murdered here in the US there are laws and a process to punish the guilty. We went to war with James Foley's killers.
That "war" was already in progress, we did not go to war based upon this event. Your messiah was in such a hurry to hit the golf course he basically just fluffed it off.
I was outraged when the Obominator ordered his killbots to slay Americans with no due process, personally I think he and his henchmen should be charged with murder. And what's going on in Yemen is far, far worse.
Your faux outrage is way after the fact and only brought up because you have been called out on it.
And what make it worse is that Trump's bromance with MBS has caused us to aid and abet him in his Yemini genocide. Obama's hands aren't clean in this, we aided and abetted the Saudis in their war against the poorest country in the Arabian peninsula. We all have blood on our hands.
Glad you are so concerned about those Yemeni people.
Too bad you could give a shit less about the murders happening in Chicago daily, or you could even care about all the American citizens that are homeless. And of course you don't care about the millions of American citizens that are murdered in the womb so you can say you support "choice".
We have plenty here, right here within our borders of the USA to be concerned with.
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I don't buy all the connective tissue you are selling, Mike.
American Citizens should be safe from illegal aliens. The pussies obama appointed to the federal courts have been stripping away at the ABILITY of the president to provide for that safety, because they keep interrupting the work of law enforcement to clean out the rat holes in places like San Francisco where ACTUAL American citizens have been murdered by illegal aliens.
You keep sideswiping about the relationship between the President and someone in Saudi Arabia as to why a non American who was murdered in a foreign country should be placed above the rights and safety of ACTUAL Americans.
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Personally, I think the reason none of you are concerned is because he didn't have a western name or lily white skin.
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Your faux outrage is way after the fact and only brought up because you have been called out on it.
Bullshit. I was outraged the day I read about it. The President of the United States ignored US law and authorized murder against American citizens because it was easy. That act reduced my respect for him more than any other thing he ever did. Benghazi might have been a mistake, it might have even been incompetence. But it wasn't premeditated.
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Bullshit. I was outraged the day I read about it. The President of the United States ignored US law and authorized murder against American citizens because it was easy.
Funny, there was virtually nothing about it in the MSM, nor did we see protest. No bitter condemnation on social media, no congressmen demanding hearings or a special counsel.
About the only place we saw any mention of it was in the conservative media.
That act reduced my respect for him more than any other thing he ever did. Benghazi might have been a mistake, it might have even been incompetence. But it wasn't premeditated.
Benghazi was premeditated. Both BHO and Felonious knew it would have severe political consequences, so they just stood down and let Americans die, then concocted a phony story about a video on YouTube.
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Benghazi showed that Democrats are above the law. It didn't take a rocket scientist to connect the dots of an administration that was running guns, and other arms to terrorists (our enemies) then as a way to cover it up allow four Americans die, including a Gay, far left, progressive Ambassador who was on "their team".
The only reason Nixon had to resign was that THE MEDIA made a big deal out of it. They only do that to Republicans, never Democrats. No Clinton was not the same. He was able to stay in office even after lying under oath, and being impeached. Why? The Media did not create the necessary PUBLIC OUTRAGE like they did for Watergate. Neither did they do it for Benghazi.
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Benghazi was premeditated. Both BHO and Felonious knew it would have severe political consequences, so they just stood down and let Americans die, then concocted a phony story about a video on YouTube.
So you're saying that Obama arranged the riot that wound up costing Stevens his life. That's quite the conspiracy theory, even for you guys.
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So you're saying that Obama arranged the riot that wound up costing Stevens his life. That's quite the conspiracy theory, even for you guys.
No, nobody is saying they created the mob. However, they used the situation to let four Americans die as a CONVENIENCE by not giving them the adaquete security, defense, nor come to their rescue when they could have. The Ambassador had been begging for more security, and defense capabilties for months. He was ignored.
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No, nobody is saying they created the mob. However, they used the situation to let four Americans die as a CONVENIENCE by not giving them the adaquete security, defense, nor come to their rescue when they could have. The Ambassador had been begging for more security, and defense capabilties for months. He was ignored.
That was a mistake. It might have been incompetence. It wasn't premeditated, unlike the murder of Anwar al-Awlaki and his son.
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That was a mistake. It might have been incompetence. It wasn't premeditated, unlike the murder of Anwar al-Awlaki and his son.
Mistake my ass! Felonious had destabilized the region with her idiotic approach to her job as SoS. They knew they had huge problems, and they (Felonious and BHO) knew the American personel there were in grave danger. The Ambassodor had made several request for additional security and had sent many warnings that the situation was deteriorating. Yet Felonious and BHO ignored because? Well hell, it was an election going on in the US and the last thing they needed was 24/7 cable news coverage of just how bad they have fucked everything up.
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So you're saying that Obama arranged the riot that wound up costing Stevens his life. That's quite the conspiracy theory, even for you guys.
OK. I thought you had maxed out the stupid responses but this is even dumber than you usually come up with.
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Bullshit. I was outraged the day I read about it. The President of the United States ignored US law and authorized murder against American citizens because it was easy. That act reduced my respect for him more than any other thing he ever did. Benghazi might have been a mistake, it might have even been incompetence. But it wasn't premeditated.
A Stand Down order was issued by somebody, at a time when our men could have been rescued or the enemy defeated. That is not a mistake or incompetence. It was a purposeful sacrifice of Americans for political purposes. Someone had to make that POLITICAL decision.