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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Rush on September 08, 2019, 08:08:48 AM

Title: Millennials don't know how to make a left turn
Post by: Rush on September 08, 2019, 08:08:48 AM
This is a pet peeve of mine. Somebody in the left turn lane when the light is green but not an arrow, and endless opposing traffic, won't pull into the intersection. Light goes yellow, then red and they sit there for many cycles. Drives me insane.  Steve here explains why this behavior is increasing.

I fully agree with him, driver's ed should be put back in schools. It's one of the rare "free" government programs I think is tax money well spent.

But another point I want to make about Steve and his videos. They are good, I've been watching a lot of them and getting a great education on legal matters. For a long time I wondered where on the political spectrum he was (he's generally good about being politically neutral), but then I heard him make a slight offhand comment about Trump, and I knew. And am disappointed. So I assume, and hope, that if he is a Democrat at least he isn't falling for the radical insanity of the likes of the squad.

So in this video he mentions being in favor of everyone getting an education. It benefits society as a whole for all individuals to get an education.  Fair enough, I agree, but my meaning of "education" is not necessarily the brainwashing that is today's public schools.

So if you don't want to listen to the whole video, I'll mention this part: He's talking about why does it benefit everyone that everyone else has an education? For example, why do I care if I live in Detroit and somebody stupid living way over here in Watervleit (a podunk town) on the other side of the state, what do I care if he's stupid?  And Steve's answer is, "Well for one thing... (and I said, OH HERE IT COMES, and I was right!) ... that person gets to vote."

So.... am I jumping to the conclusion here that Steve wants the "stupid" person in Watervleit to have an education because "an education" these days means leftist indoctrination?  Or am I misjudging Steve, and that was not him trying to say everyone should get an education because that means they will vote "correctly", ie: Democrat?



Title: Re: Millennials don't know how to make a left turn
Post by: jb1842 on September 08, 2019, 08:33:57 AM
I hate the idiots who feel the need to come to almost a complete stop before making a right hand turn.
Title: Re: Millennials don't know how to make a left turn
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on September 08, 2019, 09:32:58 AM
in some places you can't enter the intersection unless you can make it all the way through it (whether going straight or turning).  Soooooo, pulling beyond the stopline would be illegal (in some places), unless you wait until you can actually make the turn.

Title: Re: Millennials don't know how to make a left turn
Post by: azure on September 08, 2019, 09:56:17 AM
In Vermont virtually all lights have dedicated left turn signals, so this is rarely a problem. But when it is, usually what happens isn't that the same driver sits through multiple light cycles, but that the first driver only pulls into the intersection when he is ready to turn, which , since that is usually when the light is about to turn red, generally means that one and only one driver gets through per light. Still frustrating, but not quite as bad as what Steve is talking about, and it certainly isn't just millennials. That was my experience in his state as well (I lived in Michigan until a little over 5 years ago).

Also, I didn't watch the whole video so I don't know the context, but a negative comment about Trump doesn't necessarily mean the speaker is a Democrat. He could be an independent, or even a Republican who is disenchanted with Trump. Statistically Republicans tend to be very supportive of Trump but there are many exceptions.

Where Steve fits on the political spectrum I wouldn't even venture a guess. But Michigan is only usually a Blue state because of the big urban areas like Detroit, Flint, and of course Ann Arbor. Basically southeast lower Michigan, not counting Macomb County. There are large swaths of conservatism, solid red counties and even a sizable representation from the religious right. As we all know, the state went (narrowly) for Trump in 2016. If Steve's a Democrat, he might be dead center politically in his state, or only slightly left of center.
Title: Re: Millennials don't know how to make a left turn
Post by: Anthony on September 08, 2019, 09:57:27 AM
Millennial #1:  Is that a Lug Wrench?

Millennial #2:  long pause...…...Maybe?
Title: Re: Millennials don't know how to make a left turn
Post by: Rush on September 08, 2019, 10:13:03 AM
In Vermont virtually all lights have dedicated left turn signals, so this is rarely a problem. But when it is, usually what happens isn't that the same driver sits through multiple light cycles, but that the first driver only pulls into the intersection when he is ready to turn, which , since that is usually when the light is about to turn red, generally means that one and only one driver gets through per light. Still frustrating, but not quite as bad as what Steve is talking about, and it certainly isn't just millennials. That was my experience in his state as well (I lived in Michigan until a little over 5 years ago).

Also, I didn't watch the whole video so I don't know the context, but a negative comment about Trump doesn't necessarily mean the speaker is a Democrat. He could be an independent, or even a Republican who is disenchanted with Trump. Statistically Republicans tend to be very supportive of Trump but there are many exceptions.

Where Steve fits on the political spectrum I wouldn't even venture a guess. But Michigan is only usually a Blue state because of the big urban areas like Detroit, Flint, and of course Ann Arbor. Basically southeast lower Michigan, not counting Macomb County. There are large swaths of conservatism, solid red counties and even a sizable representation from the religious right. As we all know, the state went (narrowly) for Trump in 2016. If Steve's a Democrat, he might be dead center politically in his state, or only slightly left of center.

I suspect you are right, he is too logical to be a radical leftist. But if he is a Democrat, the important thing is, would he vote for a socialist like Bernie or other radical if they win the primary? Did he vote for Hillary?

The comment he made about Trump was not in this video. It would be hard for me to find, I've watched so many and it was not real bad.  It just was something that I don't think anyone who voted for Trump would have said. But you're right, there are certainly many people of all parties who did not vote for Trump, doesn't necessarily mean they voted for Hillary.

I don't know where he grew up but he taught at University of Detroit Mercy for ten years. Statistically therefore, he is 90% likely to be a liberal Democrat.
Title: Re: Millennials don't know how to make a left turn
Post by: Lucifer on September 08, 2019, 10:14:34 AM
If the current progressive plan is for everyone to have a college education (taxpayer funded, of course) then why not just extend high school to grade 16?
Title: Re: Millennials don't know how to make a left turn
Post by: Little Joe on September 08, 2019, 10:33:22 AM
And Steve's answer is, "Well for one thing... (and I said, OH HERE IT COMES, and I was right!) ... that person gets to vote."

So.... am I jumping to the conclusion here that Steve wants the "stupid" person in Watervleit to have an education because "an education" these days means leftist indoctrination?  Or am I misjudging Steve, and that was not him trying to say everyone should get an education because that means they will vote "correctly", ie: Democrat?

From my experience, I don't think most leftists think of public education in terms of indoctrination.  But they do believe that a smart, educated person will be liberal and that there is something wrong with the rest of us.

I think he honestly believes that he would rather have "educated" people voting rather than ignorant people, and I agree with that.  But I agree with you that the education system doesn't generate "educated" people.  It generates mostly liberal clones.

But then again, I think that young liberals have a good chance to become conservatives once they have to face the real world on their own.  One problem now though is that doesn't always happen until they are well into their thirties, if ever.  Between Mommy and Daddy and the nanny state sheltering them, why should they "grow up".
Title: Re: Millennials don't know how to make a left turn
Post by: Anthony on September 08, 2019, 10:34:14 AM
If the current progressive plan is for everyone to have a college education (taxpayer funded, of course) then why not just extend high school to grade 16?

Because, as you knw, the University/Government corrupt cabal would not stand for it.  They want their uninterrupted government loan scam to keep funding them, and get increased whenever they raise tuition which they do all the time

Oh, and Get Off My Lawn!
Title: Re: Millennials don't know how to make a left turn
Post by: Little Joe on September 08, 2019, 10:38:09 AM
I hate the idiots who feel the need to come to almost a complete stop before making a right hand turn.
Most drivers annoy the shit out of me too (especially Prius drivers), but what really annoys me is the way traffic lights have become fucked up.

It is now common for traffic lights to turn red just as you get there, even if noone is coming from any other direction.  They you have to sit there until someone else does come from another direction and the light changes to stop them, and you can go.

I can't count the number of times I have been sitting at a large intersection with cars stopped in ALL directions, with the exception of one turn lane in which nobody is turning.  We could significantly reduce our nations carbon footprint just by fixing the damn traffic lights.
Title: Re: Millennials don't know how to make a left turn
Post by: Little Joe on September 08, 2019, 10:39:29 AM
And one more comment;
Those millennial that can't drive properly were probably taught to drive like that from their parents, who are all old and retired and living in Florida now, clogging up our roads.
Title: Re: Millennials don't know how to make a left turn
Post by: Username on September 08, 2019, 10:42:48 AM
Because, as you knw, the University/Government corrupt cabal would not stand for it.  They want their uninterrupted government loan scam to keep funding them, and get increased whenever they raise tuition which they do all the time.
The scam would still exist.  Today, entering freshmen (freshpeople?) are not prepared for college.  They can't read.  They can't write.  They can't do math.  They can't do logic.  The first year of university is spent giving them the skills to survive that they should have had in high school.  Extending to grade 16 would simply move the bar and everyone who wants what passes for a college education today would have to go to grad school.  Once again, the first year would be spent giving them the skills they should have learned in high school.  Of course we'd need a lot more college professors.  They would be all lecturers, no PhD required.  The NEA would love that. Just four more years in the liberal education machine.  And the kids coming out of tomorrow's grad schools would be just as stupid.
Title: Re: Millennials don't know how to make a left turn
Post by: Mr Pou on September 09, 2019, 04:18:43 AM
If the current progressive plan is for everyone to have a college education (taxpayer funded, of course) then why not just extend high school to grade 16?

When college educations become free, they will become worthless.
Title: Re: Millennials don't know how to make a left turn
Post by: bflynn on September 09, 2019, 06:29:32 AM
I don’t think it is the leftist goal to give education to everyone.  Their goal to give education to all leftists and to deny it to conservatives.

Because to them, it is permissible and even proper to treat conservatives badly.
Title: Re: Millennials don't know how to make a left turn
Post by: Steingar on September 09, 2019, 06:35:12 AM
I see no hope for the future of our people if they are dependent on
the frivolous youth of today, for certainly all youth are reckless
beyond words. When I was a boy, we were taught to be discrete and
respectful of elders, but the present youth are exceedingly wise (disrespectful) and
impatient of restraint.
--- Hesiod, Eighth Century B.C.
Title: Re: Millennials don't know how to make a left turn
Post by: bflynn on September 09, 2019, 08:56:50 AM
I would take youth that are reckless and disrespectful if they were also balanced.  The kids I work with - mostly consultants - lean so far left that it's scary.  I have literally had one tell me that old people have given everything, so there's no reason to care for them after they quit working.  Another one is so freaked out by guns that she asks for every project if the company has a policy to disallow firearms on their company property.  A third lady is obsessed with salary balance and tries to find out everyone's salary so she can check if we're paying men and women the same.  Knowing other's salaries is against HR policy and she isn't in a position to judge "equal work".  But if she does get there one day, she's going to find that it's about $10 in favor of women, at least the last time I checked.

Someone has done a real number on them and we are going to pay the price.
Title: Re: Millennials don't know how to make a left turn
Post by: nddons on September 09, 2019, 09:40:27 AM
Who’s “Steve?”  There was no link in Rush’s original post when viewed on Tapatalk, which is almost exclusively how I view Pilot Spin.
Title: Re: Millennials don't know how to make a left turn
Post by: Anthony on September 09, 2019, 09:47:44 AM

Someone has done a real number on them and we are going to pay the price.

Someone?  I know I keep repeating myself, but they've been brainwashed Kindergarten through University by Far Left ideology.  Capitalism, and private ownership of guns is bad.  Limits on free speech is desired by them.  Socialism is more "fair".  Blacks, Gays, and Women have been persecuted by Whitey.  Men are stupid, and can't me trusted.  It goes on and on. 

Add the Media, Entertainment, Social Media, Tech, most of Government and now Corporate American giving them the exact same Social Justice, PC mantra, and you have Fundamental Transformation. 
Title: Re: Millennials don't know how to make a left turn
Post by: Rush on September 09, 2019, 11:25:04 AM
Who’s “Steve?”  There was no link in Rush’s original post when viewed on Tapatalk, which is almost exclusively how I view Pilot Spin.

Try this link:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=geGufkPhPpE

If that doesn’t work Google “Steve Lehto millennial” 

Steve is Steve Lehto, a Michigan lemon law attorney who has a Youtube channel.
Title: Re: Millennials don't know how to make a left turn
Post by: nddons on September 09, 2019, 12:04:53 PM
Try this link:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=geGufkPhPpE

If that doesn’t work Google “Steve Lehto millennial” 

Steve is Steve Lehto, a Michigan lemon law attorney who has a Youtube channel.
Got it on this link. Thanks Rush.

Never heard of the guy but I’ll watch it tonight.