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Title: Virginia Tech offering TEN specialized graduation ceremonies based on IDENTITY
Post by: Anthony on June 04, 2019, 02:29:41 AM
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One of the largest universities in Virginia hosts nearly a dozen alternative graduation ceremonies, specially tailoring the events to fit numerous student backgrounds and demographics, including LGBT students and veterans.

The 10 “cultural achievement ceremonies” at Virginia Tech offer unique graduation events for numerous students, such as Jewish graduates, African Americans and Native Americans. The ceremonies “include a spectrum of underrepresented populations on campus, as well as graduates within the recovery community and military veterans,” according to a news release from the school.

So Inclusion by Exclusion, and Diversity by Segregation.  What is the world coming to when you can't even share a COMMON accomplishment like graduating?  What if you had Black friends in which you wanted to share the experience?  You get stopped at the door for being White?  How can the LEFT justify this?

Graduation is an opportunity to unify and find common ground due to the shared experience.  So the Left focuses on minor difference of skin color, sexual preference, and race yet ignores our vast similarities, and shared values?  What will be next?  Women's only graduation? 

Oh, and you won't find the story in the Mainstream Media but it is absolutely true.  Bias by omission again.

https://www.thecollegefix.com/university-offers-ten-specialized-grad-ceremonies-for-lgbt-students-black-students-others/
 
Title: Re: Virginia Tech offering TEN specialized graduation ceremonies based on IDENTITY
Post by: Number7 on June 04, 2019, 05:19:40 AM
As has always been true, there is no more racist, bigoted group of people than the democrat left.

The party of the KKK and Jim Crow laws has never ceased to be the most bigoted people in America, the6 have just learned to project their hatred and bigotry on everyone else.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech offering TEN specialized graduation ceremonies based on IDENTITY
Post by: bflynn on June 04, 2019, 06:48:32 AM
Only 10?

How insensitive of them.  What about the other 48?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech offering TEN specialized graduation ceremonies based on IDENTITY
Post by: Anthony on June 04, 2019, 07:07:19 AM
I am curios about the Indian (native American) one.  Will they be smoking peace pipes (with weed), doing a rain dance, sacrificing, and enslaving other tribes, skinning Buffalo, and reenacting Little Big Horn?   I mean what unique, commonality will they be "celebrating"?

Will Elizabeth Warren be the keynote speaker?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech offering TEN specialized graduation ceremonies based on IDENTITY
Post by: azure on June 04, 2019, 07:40:33 AM
Thank god we don't have anything like that here, just one commencement ceremony, though the Corps students have their own ceremonies alongside the main one. But considering how widespread it is, according to the article, I'm kind of surprised we don't.

Not going to give them any ideas. Our current administration is left-leaning enough that it will probably come anyway, eventually.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech offering TEN specialized graduation ceremonies based on IDENTITY
Post by: nddons on June 04, 2019, 12:21:00 PM
Thank god we don't have anything like that here, just one commencement ceremony, though the Corps students have their own ceremonies alongside the main one. But considering how widespread it is, according to the article, I'm kind of surprised we don't.

Not going to give them any ideas. Our current administration is left-leaning enough that it will probably come anyway, eventually.
I agree with Anthony. Has the left lost their minds?  In what world that we are trying to improve would diversity and EXCLUSION fit? 

The seeds of division are being sowed by the left, and they should have a bumper crop of hate, segregation, anger and ultimately violence.

Shame on them.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech offering TEN specialized graduation ceremonies based on IDENTITY
Post by: Mr Pou on June 05, 2019, 04:50:41 AM
The revolution will not be televised. Well, it probably will, but it is what the left wants.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech offering TEN specialized graduation ceremonies based on IDENTITY
Post by: Anthony on June 05, 2019, 05:58:22 AM
This is disturbing because younger people think that being divided by skin color, race, ethnicity, gender, sexual preference, religion, etc is now NORMAL and accepted.  This is THEIR WORLD.  Look at how many universities have been demanded by Blacks to have separate dormitories, cafeterias and "safe places" even separate from other minorities and protected classes.  They say they feel at threatened and at risk on campus if these areas aren't provided.   Who is filling these kids heads with this nonsense?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech offering TEN specialized graduation ceremonies based on IDENTITY
Post by: Rush on June 05, 2019, 07:33:29 AM
This is disturbing because younger people think that being divided by skin color, race, ethnicity, gender, sexual preference, religion, etc is now NORMAL and accepted.  This is THEIR WORLD.  Look at how many universities have been demanded by Blacks to have separate dormitories, cafeterias and "safe places" even separate from other minorities and protected classes.  They say they feel at threatened and at risk on campus if these areas aren't provided.   Who is filling these kids heads with this nonsense?

It is reversing the progress we have made for 150 years. What's best for cultures is to merge, and become one. And no it does not mean blacks should all become "oreos" and integrate into white culture. It works both ways. Look at jazz for example, and the blues and how that has influenced American art.

When you insist on "preserving" minority ethnicities separately, as opposed to this natural merging and blending, you create friction and inevitable conflict. It's what humans do.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech offering TEN specialized graduation ceremonies based on IDENTITY
Post by: nddons on June 05, 2019, 07:40:05 AM
It is reversing the progress we have made for 150 years. What's best for cultures is to merge, and become one. And no it does not mean blacks should all become "oreos" and integrate into white culture. It works both ways. Look at jazz for example, and the blues and how that has influenced American art.

When you insist on "preserving" minority ethnicities separately, as opposed to this natural merging and blending, you create friction and inevitable conflict. It's what humans do.
Sadly, I firmly believe that this reversal began on January 20, 2009. 
Title: Re: Virginia Tech offering TEN specialized graduation ceremonies based on IDENTITY
Post by: Anthony on June 05, 2019, 08:10:51 AM
Sadly, I firmly believe that this reversal began on January 20, 2009.

Oh, absolutely.  This is purposeful divisiveness by the Globalists, and Obama was their pawn as is Hillary.  If we are divided, we are weaker, and preoccupied with infighting, and bickering over small inconsequential things like Blacks getting arrested at Starbucks.

Meanwhile while we are bickering over nonsense, they are stealing from the Cookie Jar, allowing massive illegal alien occupation, and a demographic/party shift in the U.S. to install their "Progressive" policies.  I wouldn't put it past some of these "mass shootings" which are minute in the overall murder stats to be False Flags.  Tinfoil hat stuff?  Maybe, but it is getting ludicrous. 
Title: Re: Virginia Tech offering TEN specialized graduation ceremonies based on IDENTITY
Post by: Username on June 05, 2019, 08:12:35 AM
Look at jazz for example, and the blues and how that has influenced American art.

Such things MUST stay with the originating segment. Otherwise it's cultural appropriation.

Graduations segmented by skin color and national origin.  Different ways of thinking segmented into separate safe spaces.  Soon we'll have nothing but single, lonely individuals completely segmented from everyone else.  Safe from everything that is not themselves.

Then graduation and the real world.  Followed by total freakout and meltdown because they are not prepared and haven't ever been challenged or tested.  Living in their mother's basement forever.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech offering TEN specialized graduation ceremonies based on IDENTITY
Post by: Rush on June 05, 2019, 09:38:02 AM
Such things MUST stay with the originating segment. Otherwise it's cultural appropriation.

Graduations segmented by skin color and national origin.  Different ways of thinking segmented into separate safe spaces.  Soon we'll have nothing but single, lonely individuals completely segmented from everyone else.  Safe from everything that is not themselves.

Then graduation and the real world.  Followed by total freakout and meltdown because they are not prepared and haven't ever been challenged or tested.  Living in their mother's basement forever.

Wow that's right! You can't even mix cultures now. You can't sell Hispanic food if you are white.

When I was young I never could possibly have imagined what an insane Twilight Zone this country is becoming.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech offering TEN specialized graduation ceremonies based on IDENTITY
Post by: nddons on June 05, 2019, 09:57:37 AM
Wow that's right! You can't even mix cultures now. You can't sell Hispanic food if you are white.

When I was young I never could possibly have imagined what an insane Twilight Zone this country is becoming.
Well put, Rush.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech offering TEN specialized graduation ceremonies based on IDENTITY
Post by: Username on June 05, 2019, 10:02:58 AM
I wonder why trans individuals aren't being protested for gender appropriation?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech offering TEN specialized graduation ceremonies based on IDENTITY
Post by: Mr Pou on June 05, 2019, 10:38:10 AM
  I wouldn't put it past some of these "mass shootings" which are minute in the overall murder stats to be False Flags.  Tinfoil hat stuff?  Maybe, but it is getting ludicrous.

You're not ludicrous, I've often thought the same.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech offering TEN specialized graduation ceremonies based on IDENTITY
Post by: Anthony on June 05, 2019, 12:59:07 PM
Wow that's right! You can't even mix cultures now. You can't sell Hispanic food if you are white.

When I was young I never could possibly have imagined what an insane Twilight Zone this country is becoming.

Our entire country is based on Cultural Appropriation.  That's who we are.  Several months ago I read an article where two Seattle women had taken a vacation together in Mexico and came back with a bunch of recipes.  They decided to open a food truck using some the recipes.  The local populace found out about it, realized they were NOT MEXICAN and forced them to shut down their business due to Cultural Appropriation.  MADNESS.

We are definitely in the Twilight Zone.  Anything Rod Serling could come up with has nothing on the liberal/progressives of today. 
Title: Re: Virginia Tech offering TEN specialized graduation ceremonies based on IDENTITY
Post by: azure on June 05, 2019, 09:45:30 PM
I wonder why trans individuals aren't being protested for gender appropriation?

They are. There is a long, and rather ugly history of friction between lesbian feminists and the trans community based on that theme, particularly directed at trans women activists.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech offering TEN specialized graduation ceremonies based on IDENTITY
Post by: Anthony on June 06, 2019, 06:31:12 AM
They are. There is a long, and rather ugly history of friction between lesbian feminists and the trans community based on that theme, particularly directed at trans women activists.

I think the Gay and Lesbian community did themselves a disservice by including Transgender.  They are not at all the same, and I believe the confusion of Trans is either mental illness or borderline mental illness. 
Title: Re: Virginia Tech offering TEN specialized graduation ceremonies based on IDENTITY
Post by: nddons on June 06, 2019, 08:02:50 AM
I think the Gay and Lesbian community did themselves a disservice by including Transgender.  They are not at all the same, and I believe the confusion of Trans is either mental illness or borderline mental illness.
Totally agree, and I believe it has damaged the gay community badly.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech offering TEN specialized graduation ceremonies based on IDENTITY
Post by: Falconkidding on June 06, 2019, 09:19:10 PM
So not sure the crying foul is warranted. The events are open to all and any student can register for none or as many as they like. They seem to be put on by student groups as separate celebrations of graduations. Everyone still goes to the same graduation ceremony VT just host these afterparty type get togethers.   /shrug
Title: Re: Virginia Tech offering TEN specialized graduation ceremonies based on IDENTITY
Post by: Anthony on June 07, 2019, 03:32:07 AM
So not sure the crying foul is warranted. The events are open to all and any student can register for none or as many as they like. They seem to be put on by student groups as separate celebrations of graduations. Everyone still goes to the same graduation ceremony VT just host these afterparty type get togethers.   /shrug

Then why host separate graduations in the first place?  Won't that create confusion of which to attend?  All it does is give a free pass to segregate.  It ENCOURAGES segregation.  I guarantee if you go down to VT and view the various graduations you will see self segregation and mostly by the Black Community, whom also demand separate dorms, cafeterias and "safe spaces". 
Title: Re: Virginia Tech offering TEN specialized graduation ceremonies based on IDENTITY
Post by: jb1842 on June 07, 2019, 06:13:23 AM
I didn't go to my high school or college graduations. That's the best option.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech offering TEN specialized graduation ceremonies based on IDENTITY
Post by: Rush on June 07, 2019, 07:17:45 AM
I didn't go to my high school or college graduations. That's the best option.

Me neither.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech offering TEN specialized graduation ceremonies based on IDENTITY
Post by: Falconkidding on June 07, 2019, 02:11:39 PM
Then why host separate graduations in the first place?  Won't that create confusion of which to attend?  All it does is give a free pass to segregate.  It ENCOURAGES segregation.  I guarantee if you go down to VT and view the various graduations you will see self segregation and mostly by the Black Community, whom also demand separate dorms, cafeterias and "safe spaces".
From my reading they aren't separate graduations just get togethers sponsored by student groups. If a student group wishes to sponsor a party im sure the university would accommodate with a reserved space. So if TP or YAF sponsored one the U would accommodate them accordingly.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech offering TEN specialized graduation ceremonies based on IDENTITY
Post by: nddons on June 07, 2019, 04:51:44 PM
From my reading they aren't separate graduations just get togethers sponsored by student groups. If a student group wishes to sponsor a party im sure the university would accommodate with a reserved space. So if TP or YAF sponsored one the U would accommodate them accordingly.
You’ve said that twice but the article said in several places they were separate “graduation ceremonies.”  That sounds a LOT different than a gay kegger (Stella Artois?) in the College Union.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech offering TEN specialized graduation ceremonies based on IDENTITY
Post by: Anthony on June 07, 2019, 05:09:28 PM
You’ve said that twice but the article said in several places they were separate “graduation ceremonies.”  That sounds a LOT different than a gay kegger (Stella Artois?) in the College Union.

That's a Zima only crowd.  Or maybe Appletinis. 

Lesbian after graduation party - Bloody Mary's
Black A G party - Cristal and Coke
Trans A G party - Boilermaker with a shot of Kahlua instead of Whiskey
Unwed Mothers A G Party - Shirley Temples
Former Circus Act Performers A G Party - Harvey Wallbangers
Non Practicing Catholic A G Party - Non alcoholic Sacramental Wine
Hispanic - Tequila with a splash of motor oil.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech offering TEN specialized graduation ceremonies based on IDENTITY
Post by: NippleBoy on June 07, 2019, 09:29:30 PM
I didn't go to my high school or college graduations. That's the best option.

Didn't got to any of my college graduations. Ceremonies like that don't really do anything for me. I only went to my high school graduation because the school board said you wouldn't get a diploma unless you attended.

BTW... They sent the diploma in the mail several weeks after the ceremony.


In other news, one of my facebook friends posted some pictures of their kid at their 8th grade graduation.

Really?? I thought it was cute, but ridiculous when they started that crap with kindergarten. Are they now doing graduations for every grade???
Title: Re: Virginia Tech offering TEN specialized graduation ceremonies based on IDENTITY
Post by: Falconkidding on June 07, 2019, 11:18:41 PM
You’ve said that twice but the article said in several places they were separate “graduation ceremonies.”  That sounds a LOT different than a gay kegger (Stella Artois?) in the College Union.

I guess my understanding is its under student affairs and each student union  is responsible for their own shindig.

They aren't in lieu of the cap and gown commencement ceremony rather some extra stuff put on by student groups you can attend if you feel the need to.

I guess I just don't see much of an issue if a student groups wants to do something for themselves in addition to the main event, the only thing VAT is contributing is hosting.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech offering TEN specialized graduation ceremonies based on IDENTITY
Post by: Anthony on June 08, 2019, 03:56:16 AM

I guess my understanding is its under student affairs and each student union  is responsible for their own shindig.

They aren't in lieu of the cap and gown commencement ceremony rather some extra stuff put on by student groups you can attend if you feel the need to.

I guess I just don't see much of an issue if a student groups wants to do something for themselves in addition to the main event, the only thing VAT is contributing is hosting.

The article states they are separate Graduation Ceremonies, that are typically the actual Cap and Gown commencement.  Do you have an article that says differently? 

Do you also have evidence that many universities do not have separate Dormitories for Blacks on THEIR demand?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech offering TEN specialized graduation ceremonies based on IDENTITY
Post by: Rush on June 08, 2019, 05:23:41 AM

I guess my understanding is its under student affairs and each student union  is responsible for their own shindig.

They aren't in lieu of the cap and gown commencement ceremony rather some extra stuff put on by student groups you can attend if you feel the need to.

I guess I just don't see much of an issue if a student groups wants to do something for themselves in addition to the main event, the only thing VAT is contributing is hosting.

They have ones for Jews and one for Muslims. Where is the one for Christians?

https://ccc.vt.edu/calendar/ceremonies.html
Title: Re: Virginia Tech offering TEN specialized graduation ceremonies based on IDENTITY
Post by: Anthony on June 08, 2019, 05:38:26 AM
They have ones for Jews and one for Muslims. Where is the one for Christians?

https://ccc.vt.edu/calendar/ceremonies.html

Thanks for that link Rush.  It reinforces my understanding.  They are calling them Graduation CEREMONIES, not after graduation parties, socials, "events", celebrations, etc.  CEREMONIES which to me denotes the actual graduation, not an ancillary event. 

This is another example of "Inclusion" by EXCLUSION as Whites, AND Christians are EXCLUDED. 
Title: Re: Virginia Tech offering TEN specialized graduation ceremonies based on IDENTITY
Post by: Number7 on June 08, 2019, 05:47:39 AM
When liberals talk about inclusion, they mean exclusion. When liberals talk about tolerance, they mean forced compliance with their opinion. When liberals talk about love, they LOVE to wish, or commit violence against those that disagree with them while lecturing about love and tolerance.

Liberalism is a mental disorder.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech offering TEN specialized graduation ceremonies based on IDENTITY
Post by: Rush on June 08, 2019, 06:07:35 AM
Thanks for that link Rush.  It reinforces my understanding.  They are calling them Graduation CEREMONIES, not after graduation parties, socials, "events", celebrations, etc.  CEREMONIES which to me denotes the actual graduation, not an ancillary event. 

This is another example of "Inclusion" by EXCLUSION as Whites, AND Christians are EXCLUDED.

There’s none for straights either. And none for men only but I don’t see one for women either so I guess that’s fair.

But there needs to be one for Scottish Highlanders where the men wear kilts. Racists! No Scottish Highlander ceremony!!

Oh, maybe they’re supposed to go to the “International” one. Wait, that’s for students from overseas, not American citizens of ethnic ancestry.  But the Asian and Hispanic/Latino one is for those born here but of those ancestries. So that’s not right, I was born here but have German ancestry. I want an Octoberfest style ceremony to celebrate my cultural heritage.

Or maybe all cultures get celebrated unless they are white Northern European. Although I suppose if you are of white Northern European extraction you can attend the Veterans or the Recovery ceremony. Since when is recovery a “cultural achievement”?  That’s a personal achievement. This is screwed up on so many levels.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech offering TEN specialized graduation ceremonies based on IDENTITY
Post by: nddons on June 08, 2019, 07:29:12 AM
There’s none for straights either. And none for men only but I don’t see one for women either so I guess that’s fair.

But there needs to be one for Scottish Highlanders where the men wear kilts. Racists! No Scottish Highlander ceremony!!

Oh, maybe they’re supposed to go to the “International” one. Wait, that’s for students from overseas, not American citizens of ethnic ancestry.  But the Asian and Hispanic/Latino one is for those born here but of those ancestries. So that’s not right, I was born here but have German ancestry. I want an Octoberfest style ceremony to celebrate my cultural heritage.

Or maybe all cultures get celebrated unless they are white Northern European. Although I suppose if you are of white Northern European extraction you can attend the Veterans or the Recovery ceremony. Since when is recovery a “cultural achievement”?  That’s a personal achievement. This is screwed up on so many levels.
This entire issue is the culmination of the “Participation Trophy” crowd growing up into stunted, immature, petulant child-like young adults, and their parents who didn’t want any of their feelings or self-esteem to be harmed.  Those parents are now school administrators who are perpetuating the hobbling of these lemmings.

Pathetic.  75 years ago 18-year olds stormed the beaches of Normandy in the face of machine guns, mortars, and big guns.  Nowadays these kids can’t face a speaker who does not speak in lockstep with their own orthodoxy.

I pity them.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech offering TEN specialized graduation ceremonies based on IDENTITY
Post by: Anthony on June 08, 2019, 07:41:40 AM
This entire issue is the culmination of the “Participation Trophy” crowd growing up into stunted, immature, petulant child-like young adults, and their parents who didn’t want any of their feelings or self-esteem to be harmed.  Those parents are now school administrators who are perpetuating the hobbling of these lemmings.

Pathetic.  75 years ago 18-year olds stormed the beaches of Normandy in the face of machine guns, mortars, and big guns.  Nowadays these kids can’t face a speaker who does not speak in lockstep with their own orthodoxy.

I pity them.

And now they don't have the skills, character, nor backbone to face adversity in the real world.  That is why you see Indians moving here en masse on H1B1 visas taking THEIR STEM and TECH jobs.  Do you think India, China, Japan and other countries coddle their students like we do, turning them into whimpering little complainers who are offended by everything?