Post by: Lucifer on April 17, 2022, 06:00:26 AM
Post by: Anthony on April 17, 2022, 07:28:10 AM
This one should have been arrested and jailed.
Post by: Rush on April 17, 2022, 04:27:26 PM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on April 17, 2022, 04:47:49 PM
Post by: Number7 on April 17, 2022, 07:22:11 PM
I was outraged and then discovered that they got a bonus payment from our tax dollars for every "at risk" student that graduated.
He didn't need to actually know anything, or learn anything. Give him a diploma and collect the check. That's all that mattered.
When those fuckers started whining about how hard their jobs were, I stood up at a school board meeting and called them all out over it.
None of the useless administration cared about that, either.
Post by: Mr Pou on April 18, 2022, 05:18:51 AM
Been happening here since the institution of the Hope Scholarship. Grade inflation came into being so kids could get their scholarship.
College quickly sorts things out, though. Many who win a Hope or similar scholarship lose them once they realize college can be hard.
Post by: Rush on April 18, 2022, 05:58:17 AM
College quickly sorts things out, though. Many who win a Hope or similar scholarship lose them once they realize college can be hard.
They’re fixing that too. They’re dumbing down college courses and degrees so anyone can get one. Used to be you had to have some innate advantages to get a higher education, like high conscientiousness (work ethic) and adequate level of innate intelligence, not to mention money. Higher education was never meant for the masses. It was for only clerics and upper classes and professionals.
The big mistake liberalism made was thinking that if you push all the masses into higher education, then everyone can be a highly paid professional. Even if everyone had the basic tools to get through it, you simply can’t have a society where 100% of the population are professionals and zero are tradesmen, manual laborers, and small business entrepreneurs.
The result is our current crisis of labor, which is one reason illegals come, they’ll do it for less money. And young generations getting degrees that had to be dumbed down to accommodate the whole population and then wondering why the hell they can’t get a high paying office job.
The education institutions have beat the drum that everyone needs a higher education to bring in academia’s income stream of course and support their tenured professors, while the theory that a higher education is the ONLY path to upward mobility has always been a LIE. It is one way, yes, but not the universal way for everyone. Free market supply and demand for all levels of skills provides many pathways. In the right economy you can get richer faster starting a construction company than wasting time in college.
The problems happen when you strangle the free market economy, misguide all youth into thinking college is mandatory, and end up with unemployed graduates saddled with student loan debt.
Post by: Anthony on April 18, 2022, 06:01:10 AM
They’re fixing that too. They’re dumbing down college courses and degrees so anyone can get one. Used to be you had to have some innate advantages to get a higher education, like high conscientiousness (work ethic) and adequate level of innate intelligence, not to mention money. Higher education was never meant for the masses. It was for only clerics and upper classes and professionals.
The big mistake liberalism made was thinking that if you push all the masses into higher education, then everyone can be a highly paid professional. Even if everyone had the basic tools to get through it, you simply can’t have a society where 100% of the population are professionals and zero are tradesmen, manual laborers, and small business entrepreneurs.
The result is our current crisis of labor, which is one reason illegals come, they’ll do it for less money. And young generations getting degrees that had to be dumbed down to accommodate the whole population and then wondering why the hell they can’t get a high paying office job.
The education institutions have beat the drum that everyone needs a higher education to bring in academia’s income stream of course and support their tenured professors, while the theory that a higher education is the ONLY path to upward mobility has always been a LIE. It is one way, yes, but not the universal way for everyone. Free market supply and demand for all levels of skills provides many pathways. In the right economy you can get richer faster starting a construction company than wasting time in college.
The problems happen when you strangle the free market economy, misguide all youth into thinking college is mandatory, and end up with unemployed graduates saddled with student loan debt.
Exactly correct, and well said. We are doing the opposite of what we should be doing on so many fronts and it seems like purposeful FAILURE is the desired outcome. The Chinese aren't doing ANY OF IT. They are doing all the right things. Who would have thought a Totalitarian Regime, Police State would outperform the "Free" USA?
Post by: Mr Pou on April 18, 2022, 06:05:49 AM
Post by: Rush on April 18, 2022, 07:33:55 AM
Exactly correct, and well said. We are doing the opposite of what we should be doing on so many fronts and it seems like purposeful FAILURE is the desired outcome. The Chinese aren't doing ANY OF IT. They are doing all the right things. Who would have thought a Totalitarian Regime, Police State would outperform the "Free" USA?
Apparently until the latest generation. Have you heard of the “lie flat” movement? The younger Chinese are rebelling against the 996 rule which is work 9 am to 9 pm six days a week, for decades and for low pay in say a factory, and that’s supposed to be a life. Alternatively you can try to get into college which is like a lottery system, not available for everyone but when you graduate with your degree, there aren’t enough jobs and you end up unemployed.
So they’ve decided to live minimally, work some low level job for one day, play video games and goof off for three days, and basically live hand to mouth doing as little work as possible because working your ass off doesn’t get you much farther anyway.
I don’t know when this movement started but it really ramped up with Covid, and the worst thing is that it’s catching on among young Americans, enabled by ongoing unemployment and stimulus benefits, and women eschewing marriage and motherhood.
Part of the “lie flat” movement is to vow never to buy a house or get married or have children. This is direct opposition to the CCP now “allowing” three children, and I put allowing in quotes because it looks like it is heading toward being mandatory. They are talking about banning contraceptives for anyone who hasn’t already had at least two children.
But the Chinese people aren’t having it. First of all, there just aren’t enough women. The one child policy had everyone making their one child male (through aborting females), because men are more prized so now you have a bunch of males who couldn’t get a wife if they wanted one so they’re just giving up. They’re embracing poverty and celibacy as the least difficult path because what’s the point? Secondly, even if they get a woman, having children is too expensive in the modern world. Children are a financial liability now, not an economic asset like they are in agrarian economies.
Guess what? Sex with women is THE reason (if subconsciously) males work their ass off building a thriving society. A man works and gains resources so he can attract a female. Females drive this process by selecting the most productive male they can so he can provide for and protect any offspring. This has driven human progress for a million years. Take away the possibility of getting a female, men have no reason to work themselves to the bone. Hence you take away the engine of human progress.
I’m loving seeing the CCP panic as their policies are coming back to bite them in the ass.
Post by: Mr Pou on April 18, 2022, 08:25:05 AM
Apparently until the latest generation. Have you heard of the “lie flat” movement? The younger Chinese are rebelling against the 996 rule which is work 9 am to 9 pm six days a week, for decades and for low pay in say a factory, and that’s supposed to be a life. Alternatively you can try to get into college which is like a lottery system, not available for everyone but when you graduate with your degree, there aren’t enough jobs and you end up unemployed.
So they’ve decided to live minimally, work some low level job for one day, play video games and goof off for three days, and basically live hand to mouth doing as little work as possible because working your ass off doesn’t get you much farther anyway.
I don’t know when this movement started but it really ramped up with Covid, and the worst thing is that it’s catching on among young Americans, enabled by ongoing unemployment and stimulus benefits, and women eschewing marriage and motherhood.
Part of the “lie flat” movement is to vow never to buy a house or get married or have children. This is direct opposition to the CCP now “allowing” three children, and I put allowing in quotes because it looks like it is heading toward being mandatory. They are talking about banning contraceptives for anyone who hasn’t already had at least two children.
But the Chinese people aren’t having it. First of all, there just aren’t enough women. The one child policy had everyone making their one child male (through aborting females), because men are more prized so now you have a bunch of males who couldn’t get a wife if they wanted one so they’re just giving up. They’re embracing poverty and celibacy as the least difficult path because what’s the point? Secondly, even if they get a woman, having children is too expensive in the modern world. Children are a financial liability now, not an economic asset like they are in agrarian economies.
Guess what? Sex with women is THE reason (if subconsciously) males work their ass off building a thriving society. A man works and gains resources so he can attract a female. Females drive this process by selecting the most productive male they can so he can provide for and protect any offspring. This has driven human progress for a million years. Take away the possibility of getting a female, men have no reason to work themselves to the bone. Hence you take away the engine of human progress.
I’m loving seeing the CCP panic as their policies are coming back to bite them in the ass.
Extremely interesting, and hapenning here as well. I have a friend who has a 20yr old son who drives for Grub Hub. He drives 2-4 days a week, makes whatever he needs to just scrape by, pay his share of the rent, and spend the rest of the week drinking beer and goofing off with his friends. His mother asks him about dating, and he says serious dating is too expensive, and he "gets enough" picking up the slutty girls.
Sounds like a fine existance. ???
Post by: Username on April 18, 2022, 08:33:12 AM
Extremely interesting, and hapenning here as well. I have a friend who has a 20yr old son who drives for Grub Hub. He drives 2-4 days a week, makes whatever he needs to just scrape by, pay his share of the rent, and spend the rest of the week drinking beer and goofing off with his friends. His mother asks him about dating, and he says serious dating is too expensive, and he "gets enough" picking up the slutty girls.My wife's sister... slept (both literally and figuratively) her way through high school. Moved from one menial job to the next. Says that we "just got lucky" that we have a plane, a nice house, live in a nice area. No, we worked hard through high school. Went to college, got good jobs and worked our asses off. Then went back for more schooling and worked our asses off again earning PhDs and climbing the academic ladder. Now we're at the top of our game and doing very well. We're looking forward to a very comfortable retirement. Yeah, we just got lucky. And because of that she's all the time wanting a handout.
Sounds like a fine existance. ???
Post by: Mr Pou on April 18, 2022, 08:36:59 AM
My wife's sister... slept (both literally and figuratively) her way through high school. Moved from one menial job to the next. Says that we "just got lucky" that we have a plane, a nice house, live in a nice area. No, we worked hard through high school. Went to college, got good jobs and worked our asses off. Then went back for more schooling and worked our asses off again earning PhDs and climbing the academic ladder. Now we're at the top of our game and doing very well. We're looking forward to a very comfortable retirement. Yeah, we just got lucky. And because of that she's all the time wanting a handout.
So many people equate "luck" with the spoils of the hard worker. People tell me I'm lucky to be relatively trim and at a good weight at my age. Bull fucking shit, luck has nothing to do with it. Working out 5-6 days a week and avoiding chips, cookies, candy, soda has far more to do with it than luck.
The same with why I can afford a nice house and nice toys and am retiring early. My wife and I both worked hard to get to where we are now.
I hate "luck"...
Post by: Username on April 18, 2022, 10:27:23 AM
So many people equate "luck" with the spoils of the hard worker. People tell me I'm lucky to be relatively trim and at a good weight at my age. Bull fucking shit, luck has nothing to do with it. Working out 5-6 days a week and avoiding chips, cookies, candy, soda has far more to do with it than luck.When we got married my wife and I agreed that we'd live on the lowest of our two salaries and bank the rest. We could have had much more much earlier had we bought up to what we were qualified for. But that philosophy served us well, and helped us through the tough times. So now we have a decent amount of savings for retirement. Hard work set us up so we could do that. Hard work and determination and wise choices got us to where we are now.
The same with why I can afford a nice house and nice toys and am retiring early. My wife and I both worked hard to get to where we are now.
I hate "luck"...
Post by: Number7 on April 18, 2022, 05:31:31 PM
My wife's sister... slept (both literally and figuratively) her way through high school. Moved from one menial job to the next. Says that we "just got lucky" that we have a plane, a nice house, live in a nice area. No, we worked hard through high school. Went to college, got good jobs and worked our asses off. Then went back for more schooling and worked our asses off again earning PhDs and climbing the academic ladder. Now we're at the top of our game and doing very well. We're looking forward to a very comfortable retirement. Yeah, we just got lucky. And because of that she's all the time wanting a handout.
Our crazy lib daughter keeps lecturing us on our unreasonable privilege.
She can’t understand that people’s lives are shaped their decision and choices. She thinks we got really lucky and don’t deserve all our privilege.
Post by: Anthony on April 19, 2022, 04:35:52 AM
Our crazy lib daughter keeps lecturing us on our unreasonable privilege.
She can’t understand that people’s lives are shaped their decision and choices. She thinks we got really lucky and don’t deserve all our privilege.
There are many like her out there, unfortunately. I deal with them at work, fortunately there are also some that don't buy into the Far-Left Fascist narrative popular with the Democrats today.
Post by: nddons on April 19, 2022, 11:03:03 AM
The school district near Kansas City, where my grandson went was so utterly dishonest that they were proud to give a high school diploma to a boy that did not attend a single class for over two years.I found a clip of your speech at the school board meeting.
I was outraged and then discovered that they got a bonus payment from our tax dollars for every "at risk" student that graduated.
He didn't need to actually know anything, or learn anything. Give him a diploma and collect the check. That's all that mattered.
When those fuckers started whining about how hard their jobs were, I stood up at a school board meeting and called them all out over it.
None of the useless administration cared about that, either.
https://youtu.be/qMx-Lv_eZ3s
Post by: nddons on April 19, 2022, 11:06:42 AM
College quickly sorts things out, though. Many who win a Hope or similar scholarship lose them once they realize college can be hard.My late FIL was a professor in the College of Education at Illinois State University. He was a Kennedy democrat, but believed that many students have no business going to college, and the “college prep” mindset was actually damaging to kids who shouldn’t be going down that path.
Post by: Username on April 19, 2022, 11:13:36 AM
My late FIL was a professor in the College of Education at Illinois State University. He was a Kennedy democrat, but believed that many students have no business going to college, and the “college prep” mindset was actually damaging to kids who shouldn’t be going down that path.Exactly. Many college students would be much better off heading to trade school to learn plumbing, welding, aircraft maintenance, and so on. They would earn far more there than in their lesbian poetry majors. It's nearly impossible to find a skilled worker these days.
Post by: Rush on April 19, 2022, 11:55:59 AM
Exactly. Many college students would be much better off heading to trade school to learn plumbing, welding, aircraft maintenance, and so on. They would earn far more there than in their lesbian poetry majors. It's nearly impossible to find a skilled worker these days.
This! I played World of Warcraft for a while and fell in with three 19 year old guys who started off as my enemies but we ended up friends in real life on “vent” while staying enemies in game who hung out together which caused all kinds of awkwardness but that’s not important.
The point is I was kind of like aunt or grandma to them and they would tell me their problems, hopes, dreams, etc. and one of them wanted desperately to be a car mechanic. But there were no car mechanic schools, none that he could afford, and no training was being offered at any of the local colleges. All he got was pressure to go to college and be a lawyer. Last I heard from him he was working as an exterminator, spraying people’s houses for bugs.
Post by: nddons on April 20, 2022, 12:48:41 PM
This! I played World of Warcraft for a while and fell in with three 19 year old guys who started off as my enemies but we ended up friends in real life on “vent” while staying enemies in game who hung out together which caused all kinds of awkwardness but that’s not important.Mrs. Robinson?
The point is I was kind of like aunt or grandma to them and they would tell me their problems, hopes, dreams, etc. and one of them wanted desperately to be a car mechanic. But there were no car mechanic schools, none that he could afford, and no training was being offered at any of the local colleges. All he got was pressure to go to college and be a lawyer. Last I heard from him he was working as an exterminator, spraying people’s houses for bugs.
Post by: Rush on April 20, 2022, 02:47:57 PM
Mrs. Robinson?
Ha! Not hardly.
I must be really old because I get the reference. :(
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on April 20, 2022, 03:28:12 PM
Ha! Not hardly.
I must be really old because I get the reference. :(
nah, just reasonably well-informed about some iconic movies from before you were born, yes?
Post by: Anthony on April 20, 2022, 03:31:56 PM
Mrs. Robinson?
Ann Bancroft looked damn good too.. Especially for her age.
Post by: Rush on April 20, 2022, 07:06:22 PM
nah, just reasonably well-informed about some iconic movies from before you were born, yes?
Oh, yes, now that you mention it, uh huh, yeah that’s right, yup. ;D
Post by: Rush on April 20, 2022, 07:09:14 PM
Ann Bancroft looked damn good too.. Especially for her age.
I think she was only 35 and Dustin Hoffman was 29 when it was filmed so I guess she was pretending to be older and he was pretending to be younger.
Post by: Jim Logajan on April 20, 2022, 07:14:41 PM
Ann Bancroft looked damn good too.. Especially for her age.
She had a good head start when it came to aging.
(https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/actress-anne-bancroft-poses-at-her-home-in-los-angeles-california-picture-id493311849)